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16-80 or 18-140?

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  • rmprmp Posts: 586Member
    I'm an image quality nut, so I'd give up the reach for the IQ and take the 16-80.
    Robert M. Poston: D4, D810, V3, 14-24 F2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8, 80-400, 105 macro.
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  • egosbaregosbar Posts: 65Member
    16-80 not supposed to be the greatest lens and has a cheap focus motor i believe , way overpriced imo , im going the 24-85 vr g , supposed to be one of the sharpest lenses and good value
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  • PistnbrokePistnbroke Posts: 2,444Member
    edited October 2016
    Yes that's the one 24-85 VR...I have one in my wedding kit as my FX spare..
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  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    @egosbar Apples and coconuts. The 16-80 is a DX lens, the 24-85 is an FX lens. Don't go by the reviews and the angry reviews. The 16-80 is a beautiful lens, focus quickly and accurately, and clearly sits between the plastic fantastic (but great value) 18-55 and the wonderful but heavy metal (and pricy) 17-55. I own all three. If you don't, it's hard to compare them. The 24-85 is not a useful DX lens a) Doesn't get wide enough (36mm equiv vs 24mm equiv) and b) is not optimized (weight and size) for the format (i.e. for the same size and weight you get a 5x vs 3.5x zoom, and f/2.8 vs f/3.5) Great for an FX, notsomuch for DX.
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  • nukuEX2nukuEX2 Posts: 178Member
    I'm actually looking into 16-80 lens as my very first zoom lens for my D7200.
    D7200, 40mm Micro Nikkor f2.8, Lowepro AW Hatchback 16,
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  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    I use it on my D7200. Good combo, balances well. A good upgrade from the "kit" lens, and a very useful zoom range. Pair it with an 80-400 and you've got 16-400 (24-600 equiv) in two lenses :wink:
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  • egosbaregosbar Posts: 65Member
    theres not a lot of difference between 24 and 36mm , your feed can move backwards a step of two lol , i would be worried about the cheap focus motor in a 1200 dollar lens id expect more , if it were 600 then id be all over it
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  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    Hey, some people cry over 2mm at the wide end. I own 20, 24, 28, and 35mm primes, and find them all useful. But I'm also happy to run around with my 50mm and zoom with my feet, when I can. If you are doing astrophotography it's a bit hard to move the earth a few steps back :wink:
    The only person who said it had a cheap focus motor is the angry man. Personally I have no issues, and the IQ is way better than any of the other "normal DX zooms" other than than the 17-55 natch'.
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  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,090Member
    I rate the 16-80 lens as my best lens. It is on our D500 all the time! Sure. Have other lens and cameras. Personally I shoot with the D7200 and various,lens most as once the 16-80 gets used it is hard to get it back from family!
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  • SportsSports Posts: 365Member
    @spraynpray - any news on your lens ... and camera?
    I, too, am interested in an alround zoom with better IQ than my current 18-200.
    I was looking at the 16-80, but as my need for an "indoor people lens" grew bigger, I've changed my focus, I suppose, to a used Nikon 24-70 because of constant f2.8 and faster AF. Its focal length range would suit me very well. Was ten seconds from getting one on Ebay the other day, but was outsmarted by another bidder, I suppose.
    Anyway, that would leave me still in need of a travel (or "go-for-a-walk") lens, but with no money left. Damn.
    Sigma or Tamron, while I'm saving up again, please build a sharp 15-90 mm f/4.0.
    D300, J1
    Sigma 70-200/2.8, 105/2.8
    Nikon 50/1.4G, 18-200, 80-400G
    1 10-30, 30-110
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  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    The 16-80 is a constant f/4 if you set it there :wink: and it's damn sharp at f/4 too
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  • SportsSports Posts: 365Member
    edited October 2016
    You're right, of course, @Ironheart. It's probably just an instinct saying that you can save a bit of money by not going to f/2.8 at the wide end. But the potential price diff could actually be completely insignificant.
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    D300, J1
    Sigma 70-200/2.8, 105/2.8
    Nikon 50/1.4G, 18-200, 80-400G
    1 10-30, 30-110
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  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,090Member
    We own two Nikkor 18-200s. They rarely get used these days. There are better .Nikon lens out there. The new 16-80 and the new 70-300 VR DX. For low light sports I still would use my FOUR 70-300 FX VR lens. So the 18-200 is not much of a team player, as Ken Rockwell says. I do respect the 18-200 Nikkor, just we have better results or confidence in these other lens.
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  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    @Sports since it is already a DX lens optimized for the smaller light circle, I'm not sure you would save much money or weight. The extra stop does come in handy occasionally, though I typically shoot a few clicks down from wide open on any lens if I can get away with it :smiley: I'm thinking the perfect pair is the 16-80 and the 80-400, though I currently own the 70-300, I am eyeing the bigger brother. Nothing wrong with the 70-300 stopped down a couple of clicks.
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    @Sports: Generally the 16-80 is OK, but I'm not 'wowed' by it. It is better than the old 16-85.
    Always learning.
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,186Member
    edited November 2016
    Still musing over my setup... sigh.. it never stops does it .... anyway any more insight on the 16-80 @spraynpray ?

    Also @Pistnbroke what are our thought on the D500+16-80 combo for events? I know you like the 18-140 but I would be interested in your thoughts again on why you may feel it could be an advantage over the 16-80 ? And if the 18-300 F6.3 (big brother to 18-140) wont be better still ?
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    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    Personally hearty, IMHO if the focal length of the 18-140 is better for your use, I'd go for it. I think the 16-80 is overpriced for the small difference in IQ. Tests are one thing, whether you can see the difference in use is another...
    Always learning.
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,186Member
    edited November 2016
    spraynpray said:

    Personally hearty, IMHO if the focal length of the 18-140 is better for your use, I'd go for it. I think the 16-80 is overpriced for the small difference in IQ. Tests are one thing, whether you can see the difference in use is another...

    I already have the 18-140.. quite happy with it really.. but ... 16 F2.8 in dim events sounds like a significant advantage over 18 f3.5 .. no?

    18-140 + Nikon1 j5 -- :blush:



    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    Yes if you had a D90, not any big deal with your D7200's ISO capability. Shame we aren't neighbours, we could try each others lenses.
    Always learning.
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,186Member
    edited November 2016
    :-) yeah ... or the D500 !!!

    :-) maybe @egosbar would like to do a lense swap meet sometime !! :-) I think he is in my city somewhere ! :-) but i think he is not getting the 16-80 any time soon :-)
    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

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  • egosbaregosbar Posts: 65Member
    getting the d500 and 70-300g vr fx , will get a mid zoom another time i have a 105m macro and 11-16 , im in australia in country nsw
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  • egosbaregosbar Posts: 65Member
    will probably get the 18-105 or 18-140 im thinking
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,186Member
    edited November 2016
    Well @egosbar if you come in to the city and want to to try my 18-140 let me know :-) BTW where in country NSW are you ? I go shooting out of Sydney sometimes :-)
    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

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  • egosbaregosbar Posts: 65Member
    cobar mate
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,186Member
    edited November 2016
    egosbar said:

    cobar mate

    LOL ! thats in the middle of ..... !!!

    Well I have always wanted to go to the western plains zoo... may drop by then :-) Anything interesting to shoot around Cobar ? ;-)

    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

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