Sharing photos on Facebook?

ked74ked74 Posts: 1Member
edited July 2013 in Nikon 1
There are plenty of flickr groups for sharing Nikon 1 photos, but I was looking for a Nikon 1 facebook group similar to the D7000 one my husband is on. I couldn't find anything available, so I decided to start one. If anyone is interested, please join! There's not much there yet, but it wouldn't take too many people to join before it could be a pretty active group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1391472334404556/?ref=nf

(Or if anyone knows of one already in existence that just didn't come up in my search, please let me know! I'd be happier joining an existing one than administering a new one.)

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  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,396Moderator
    Important to understand what Facebook says regarding intellectual property rights:

    "For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License)"

    So, if any images are of potential value, this apparently means one does not have much control over the photo once on Facebook.
    Msmoto, mod
  • AdeAde Posts: 1,071Member
    That's not exactly true; a lot of important context missing from the above quotation to render it misleading.

    You may want to review the entire Section 2: "Sharing Your Content and Information":

    https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
  • JJ_SOJJ_SO Posts: 1,158Member
    Well Ade, it Msmoto's quote is a word-for-word quote, it's bad enough.
  • AdeAde Posts: 1,071Member
    Truth vs. the whole truth. :)
  • JJ_SOJJ_SO Posts: 1,158Member
    If I'd like to know the whole truth, I gonna ask NSA B-)
  • PeterPhamWesleyPeterPhamWesley Posts: 19Member
    Yup Facebook is problematic. I know a lot of photographers who have their own FB page - but you will always see a watermark on their photos. Recently I have started adding watermarks to all my photos as well.

    I don't know if there has ever been a case of Facebook taking a photographer's picture (that had a watermark or signature) and using it for their own purposes. If they did that - I suppose reading through their intellectual property rights that they would have the right to do it - but it would look bad and a lot of photographers would stop using Facebook. We live in a somewhat overly litigiousness world and it would cause all sorts of problems.
    It would be interesting if FB would hold up in court.


    Msmoto : So, if any images are of potential value, this apparently means one does not have much control over the photo once on Facebook. - See more at: http://forum.nikonrumors.com/discussion/1318/sharing-photos-on-facebook#sthash.wDQH29Hm.dpuf

    Yup it's a risk. But how else can one can advertise your pictures to a large audience of people as easily as FB? Sure there is Flickr - Flickr is great with it's high resolution images - but do hundreds of millions of people have Flickr accounts? Sometimes a photographer with a really good picture can get several hundreds of likes and hundreds of comments from strangers just looking at their friends's pictures on FB - its a REALLY good advertisement tool.

    I'm not a professional photographer, just an amateur.
  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    edited July 2013

    I don't know if there has ever been a case of Facebook taking a photographer's picture (that had a watermark or signature) and using it for their own purposes. .
    Ever page of FB is littered with advertising, so yes they do, all the time

    "am I bothered?"



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  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,396Moderator
    Just to clarify.....all my photos are available on Flickr in fairly large files and these are without any cost. I do this to provide my snapshots to those who may want them. A luxury of being old, I suppose.

    My caution regarding Facebook, is that the file can never really be deleted if someone has grabbed it and pasted it on their own page. And, Facebook is saying they can use these as they desire, even if it has been deleted by the OP.

    It is this entitlement attitude of Facebook with which I have a problem.

    This is no doubt much more of a problem for those who are in business and produce great images.
    Msmoto, mod
  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    edited July 2013
    I have no problems with FB. If we choose to use a medium, that is easily copied, its is our look out

    I put medium res photos on FB with a small water mark; I suspect some my stuff may be used with out my knowledge, but My FB page is one of my best sources of commissioned work; which in income terms, is much more lucrative, than any income I get from selling reproduction rights
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  • blandbland Posts: 811Member
    Most all the work I get shooting comes from someone seeing my shots on Facebook. So in a way it pays to put your shots on there.
  • PeterPhamWesleyPeterPhamWesley Posts: 19Member
    edited July 2013
    sevencrossing: "Ever page of FB is littered with advertising, so yes they do, all the time "

    Most likely I am misunderstanding what you are trying to say. I'm on FB every day. The advertisements we see on FB are using pictures for the companies the advertisement are for. An example is Adorama - there are Adorama advertisments that pop up on FB - but those pictures/advertisements are BY Adorama. FB didn't just come and steal a photographer's work and say "Here's a camera store advertisment link"

    I maybe mistaken, but I have yet to see the FB company itself take someone's photo and then use it for FB's commercial purposes.

    Now I've had people download a FB picture - take off my watermark or crop the watermark out and use it for their own non-commercial purposes. But it wasn't the company FB itself that was doing this - it was simply some individual user of FB. I know something like that would make some photographers scream, but I'm a pretty easy going kinda of a guy.
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  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    edited July 2013
    Most likely I am misunderstanding what you are trying to say..
    Yes I think you are

    I am not talking about individual photos or adverts, but the page as a whole

    Post edited by sevencrossing on
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