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Latest DSLR asymmetric strap hooks, why?

D900ED900E Posts: 26Member
edited October 2013 in Nikon DSLR cameras
This is just a [stupid] question and a curiosity:
Why in almost all new DSLRs the strap hooks aren't at the same level and the RT one is so high to almost touch the top display?
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Cameras: Coolpix P330, D100, D300s, D800E.
Lenses: FX: 14 f/2.8; 14-24 f/2.8; 16-35 f/4, 24 f/1.4; 24-70 f/2.8; 24-120 f/4; 35 f/1.4; 50 f/1.8; 70-200 f/2.8; 70-300 f/4.5; 80-400 f/4.5; 85 f/1.4; 50-500 f/6.3 Sigma; DX: 10.5 f/2.8; 10-24 f/3.5; 16-85 f/3.5,18-70 f/3.5; 18-200 f/3.5; Manual 1000 reflex f/11
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  • Golf007sdGolf007sd Posts: 2,840Moderator
    edited October 2013
    I took the strap hooks off both my D7000 & D4. I got the RRS B2-FAB-F in conjunction to connect my Blackrapid to their L-Plates.
    Post edited by Golf007sd on
    D4 & D7000 | Nikon Holy Trinity Set + 105 2.8 Mico + 200 F2 VR II | 300 2.8G VR II, 10.5 Fish-eye, 24 & 50 1.4G, 35 & 85 1.8G, 18-200 3.5-5.6 VR I SB-400 & 700 | TC 1.4E III, 1.7 & 2.0E III, 1.7 | Sigma 35 & 50 1.4 DG HSM | RRS Ballhead & Tripods Gear | Gitzo Monopod | Lowepro Gear | HDR via Promote Control System |
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  • D900ED900E Posts: 26Member
    Uhm... quite interesting, didn't know it existed, but am I wrong or the camera will be upside down? Is it better than on the regular strap?
    Cameras: Coolpix P330, D100, D300s, D800E.
    Lenses: FX: 14 f/2.8; 14-24 f/2.8; 16-35 f/4, 24 f/1.4; 24-70 f/2.8; 24-120 f/4; 35 f/1.4; 50 f/1.8; 70-200 f/2.8; 70-300 f/4.5; 80-400 f/4.5; 85 f/1.4; 50-500 f/6.3 Sigma; DX: 10.5 f/2.8; 10-24 f/3.5; 16-85 f/3.5,18-70 f/3.5; 18-200 f/3.5; Manual 1000 reflex f/11
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  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,494Member
    edited October 2013
    If you are using the strap that ships with your camera, Golf007sd's suggestion won't help you.

    If you want to save your neck from pain, you might want to look at some third party straps, like those from Blackrapid.
    Post edited by PB_PM on
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
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  • D900ED900E Posts: 26Member
    edited October 2013
    Understand, but I feel no pain in my neck by the camera.
    My question, however, was on the asymmetry of the two pins. There must be a reason...

    P.S. I shouldn't have clicked on Answered, how can I take it back?
    Post edited by D900E on
    Cameras: Coolpix P330, D100, D300s, D800E.
    Lenses: FX: 14 f/2.8; 14-24 f/2.8; 16-35 f/4, 24 f/1.4; 24-70 f/2.8; 24-120 f/4; 35 f/1.4; 50 f/1.8; 70-200 f/2.8; 70-300 f/4.5; 80-400 f/4.5; 85 f/1.4; 50-500 f/6.3 Sigma; DX: 10.5 f/2.8; 10-24 f/3.5; 16-85 f/3.5,18-70 f/3.5; 18-200 f/3.5; Manual 1000 reflex f/11
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  • Golf007sdGolf007sd Posts: 2,840Moderator
    @D900E: Forget the Nikon strap. Get yourself one of these: Black Rapid Curve RS-7.
    D4 & D7000 | Nikon Holy Trinity Set + 105 2.8 Mico + 200 F2 VR II | 300 2.8G VR II, 10.5 Fish-eye, 24 & 50 1.4G, 35 & 85 1.8G, 18-200 3.5-5.6 VR I SB-400 & 700 | TC 1.4E III, 1.7 & 2.0E III, 1.7 | Sigma 35 & 50 1.4 DG HSM | RRS Ballhead & Tripods Gear | Gitzo Monopod | Lowepro Gear | HDR via Promote Control System |
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  • aquarian_lightaquarian_light Posts: 135Member
    I dont even use a neck strap.
    Wrist strap is where its at.
    That is unless you're carrying two bodies at once... then wrist straps wont work so well.
    D800E, 24-120 F4 VR, 50mm 1.8G, 85 1.8G, 28mm 3.5, 135mm 3.5
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  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    Another vote for Black rapid
    what was the question
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  • AdeAde Posts: 1,071Member
    To the original question... maybe the eyelets are asymmetric because the camera's center of gravity isn't in the middle of the camera, but shifted to one side (to the left if looking from the rear, towards the center of the lens mount).
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  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,398Moderator
    edited October 2013
    Never noticed..... I suppose my question would be if there has to be a reason for this other than possibly the strap hook is attached to the metal part of the camera frame vs. the non metallic pieces?

    Oh, and redouble on "L" plate plus Black Rapid. Or, simply a strap through the "L" plate....seems to work well.
    Post edited by Msmoto on
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    I use the black Rapid system too but the downside is that body + grip + 'L' bracket + Arca clamp makes the whole assembly awkward to hold in landscape by comparison to using the standard (horrible) straps.
    Always learning.
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  • JohnJohn Posts: 134Member
    This is just a [stupid] question and a curiosity:
    Why in almost all new DSLRs the strap hooks aren't at the same level and the RT one is so high to almost touch the top display?
    I noticed the asymmetrical design as well. I guess that it has something to do with the center of gravity as Ade pointed out. Another option would be that the pins are attached to the strongest parts of the internal construction (the metal frame).
    The third option would be that it's just "design" and that the location where the designer thought they would fit best.
    At least that's my take on the matter.
    Personally I think it's a combination of 1 and 2 but I have no evidence to support this.
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  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 2,293Member
    Yes, I never understood why the D7000 has an offset when it comes to the strap lugs. Strange, because that wasn't an issue in the D40 I got earlier.
    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
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  • mark_4mark_4 Posts: 6Member
    If there's no controls on the left shoulder, like with the D40, then they seem to be set high on the body, but if there are left shoulder controls then that one is set lower. If the right one was set lower, it would be getting close to you hand as you hold the grip. The D90 has one of the lowest right hand loops, but that is offset noticeably towards the rear of the body, compared with the right loop.
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  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    Every new camera I get or look at I always look at the strap hooks. Makes you wonder. I always try to look at them to see if it's done to balance the camera like John said. Interesting question with no answer...always love those. We are probably right.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
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  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 2,293Member
    If there's no controls on the left shoulder, like with the D40, then they seem to be set high on the body, but if there are left shoulder controls then that one is set lower. If the right one was set lower, it would be getting close to you hand as you hold the grip. The D90 has one of the lowest right hand loops, but that is offset noticeably towards the rear of the body, compared with the right loop.
    I never thought of that! It makes sense though.
    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
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  • D900ED900E Posts: 26Member
    All the speculations are valid, probably only Nikon Japan can answer.
    I wonder and didn't check if Canon has the same asymmetry.
    Cameras: Coolpix P330, D100, D300s, D800E.
    Lenses: FX: 14 f/2.8; 14-24 f/2.8; 16-35 f/4, 24 f/1.4; 24-70 f/2.8; 24-120 f/4; 35 f/1.4; 50 f/1.8; 70-200 f/2.8; 70-300 f/4.5; 80-400 f/4.5; 85 f/1.4; 50-500 f/6.3 Sigma; DX: 10.5 f/2.8; 10-24 f/3.5; 16-85 f/3.5,18-70 f/3.5; 18-200 f/3.5; Manual 1000 reflex f/11
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  • rbrylawskirbrylawski Posts: 222Member
    I just checked a 360 degree view of the Canon EOS 70D and it too has asymmetric strap connectors.
    Nikon D7100; AF-S DX 35mm f1.8; AF-S DX Macro 40mm f2.8; AF-S DX 18-200mm VRII; SB-700 Speed Light and a bunch of other not very noteworthy stuff......
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