New Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-2 / rated 250MB/s

michael66

Just came across this; http://www.sandisk.com/about-sandisk/press-room/press-releases/2014/sandisk-announces-world%E2%80%99s-fastest-sd-card/. Supposed to become available in April in 16GB to 64GB capacities carrying MSRPs of $119.99 to $299.99.

I hope I put this in an acceptable place.

Ironheart

Dang... Don't know if any Nikons have UHS-2 capability. Yet :-) Lets start a rumor, how about the D7200?

manhattanboy

Dang... Don't know if any Nikons have UHS-2 capability. Yet :-) Lets start a rumor, how about the D7200?

Since the D4S specs seem up in the air... I bet the D4S will LOL.

On a separate note, does anyone know can we use these cards in existing Nikons and get some improvements???

FreezeAction

Even with faster cards don't we need larger buffers except maybe in the D4/D4s?

Killerbob

Now if Sandisk also had beefed up the CompactFlash cards as well, we could match the two in the D800 and perhaps get some more FPSes?

Ironheart

CF is dead. Long live SD! Seriously, why do you need that? Try the SD by itself and see if it is faster. @manhattanboy, unless they up the bus speed in the camera, we are limited by UHS-1 104MB/s speed, so anything above that is likely wasted.

PB_PM

CF is far from dead. Maybe in the entry level consumer space that's true, but not in the professional space.

Killerbob

Wrong! CF is far far from dead. Sure if you're stuck on a D7000 or a D7100 you're happy with SD cards, but anyone with a D300S, D3X, or a D800 needs CF cards.

I have the Extreme Pro cards, 100MB/s for the CF cards, and 95MB/s for the SDs. Are you saying that my D800 "only" has UHS-1, and hence would not use anything faster?

Photobug

Hope the CF market is not dead. Not because I have 4 fast cards left over from my D300 and saving it for a D810/D900 or what ever DSLR that comes next for me.

With the demand by Pro's and advanced amateurs the CF card is going to be around for a long time.

Ironheart

I was joking about CF. Well, sort of. There won't be any further development on CF, it is a dead-end technology, or what we call "end-of-life" (that's dead isn't it?) uhs-ii is faster than CF and there is no CF-ii and CFast isnt pin compatible or the same form factor as CF. yeah, it's pretty dead.

from what I understand there are no uhs-ii DSLRs on the market, even the precious D800.

Also see this thread for more discussion:
http://forum.nikonrumors.com/discussion/2246/tech-discussion-data-throughput-on-todays-high-mpix-cameras-vs-sd-uhs-ii-cfast-memory-cards-

TaoTeJared

I think @Ironheart is correct that CF will be phased out in the very near future. There are really not that many bodies using CF anymore - just Nikon and Canon pro bodies are it. I'm not sure if the CF fast format will be adopted or not. I really wish the XQD format would be adopted across the board with other brands. That has 1 Gbit/s read and write speed with a 2TB capacity at least what Sony said they can make.

To be honest I don't care all that much what format is made (at least any more - I have given in to the "obsolete soon" notion long ago.) One thing is for sure, with 50mp systems on the horizon, even the new SD cards at 256mb/s are not the future.

Just as a warning; It is incorrect to think the card speeds alone will increase FPS. There is much more holding that back in lower bodies than the cards.

ezi

The CF cards UDMA7 has 160MB/s. It is much more than the UHS-1 SD cards that hardly pass 100MB/s. I'm a photographer - not an evangelist. The D800 limit is 150MB/s. The Amazon cost of the 160MB/s CF card (SanDisk Extreme Pro) is 109$. I think it worth the investment for a 3000$ body.

Ironheart

Sorry ezi you are wrong. The D800 has an internal UHS-1 bus, so 104MB/s is the fastest (theoretical) speed it can do. Unless you have evidence to the contrary... Now the D810 with expeed 4 may have a different bus speed, I haven't found a definitive answer yet.

With the possible exception of the D810, anything faster than UHS-1 is wasted.

haroldp

I am using a 1066x (160 mbs) Lexar CF card in a D800e which is (was) the fastest available. I am using a 95mbs Sandisk which is (was) the fastest available at the time, in the SD slot which I measured notably slower than the 1066x lexar.

I welcome a faster SD card if the interface can handle it since I shoot in real backup mode and am therefore as fast as the slowest card slot.

Has anyone out there tried Raw in the faster card and Jpeg in the slower, is it usably faster than raw / raw.

Regards .... H

haroldp

Sorry ezi you are wrong. The D800 has an internal UHS-1 bus, so 104MB/s is the fastest (theoretical) speed it can do. Unless you have evidence to the contrary... Now the D810 with expeed 4 may have a different bus speed, I haven't found a definitive answer yet.

With the possible exception of the D810, anything faster than UHS-1 is wasted.

Is that the limit for the CF card slot as well ?

.... H

manhattanboy

Before everyone goes crazy with the newer cards, I thought I would post a really helpful post from 810 thread:

Bowsider said:
Guys, the main reason for this post is because I have ill extend some useful data for you about SD UHS-I vs SD UHS-II vs CF.
I have here a D810 + 3x SanDisk Extreme Pro 32GB cards.:
1) SD 95mb/s UHS-I
2) SD 280mb/s UHS-II
3) CF 160mb/s

Shooting in raw on formatted cards at max 5fps the buffer gets filled by:
1) 21 exposures 2) 21 exposures 3) 18 exposures.
For jpg Fine Large:
1) 65 2) 45!!! Yes, less. 3) 75

retread

What are the advantages/disadvantages for using a UHS-II card instead of the CF card? It seems to me the smaller card (more room for other stuff in camera) and less likely hood of pin damage are good plusses.

PB_PM

SD cards are small and flimsy, way easier to loose or break. Been using cameras with CF cards for 6 years now, haven't damaged a pin in a camera or card reader yet.

haroldp

SD cards also have exposed contacts and are more vulnerable to static or stray voltage

retread

SD cards are small and flimsy, way easier to loose or break. Been using cameras with CF cards for 6 years now, haven't damaged a pin in a camera or card reader yet.

Easier to loose or break. Maybe but I don't that is a big problem although I have a habit of dropping small things. Glad you haven't had a problem with pins and don't think it is a big problem but the possibility worries me.

SD cards also have exposed contacts and are more vulnerable to static or stray voltage

I hadn't considered that. May be a possibility in some environments.

michael66

@haroldp

SD cards also have exposed contacts and are more vulnerable to static or stray voltage

I've used SD cards for many, many things over the years and have never, ever damaged one; electrically or physically. And I don't treat them too well. As a matter of fact, the other day I was clearing out some dead brush in the garden and dug up an old SD card, 256MB (MB not GB) that I had been using in an old MP3 player and I haven't seen that thing since last summer. I washed it off with a garden hose, towel dried it and tried it an old laptop. I was able to copy all of the files.

@PitchBlack

So... i looked it up and my MacBook Pro's internal SD reader is 480 Mbit/s.

Does your Mac have a USB3 port? I tried one of those USB3 card holders in a USB3 slot and, boy, what a dramatic improvement in transfer speed over USB2. No, I haven't done any time trials.

Parke1953

I use Sandisk extreme pro cards SD/CF 16gig. So what would you all consider a slow download time and and a fast time. Everyone's file size is different so state your card size (full) so we can compare.

Maybe this is the wrong thread for this and should start a new one.

jshirley

Retread and PB_PM both said:
Easier to "loose or break".

I say:
It's lose or break, not "loose or break". Give me a break. Please. You should, at least, know the difference between using loose or lose in a sentence. Because what you said makes absolutely no sense. Participation trophy for both of you.

http://www.ross.net/notes/loose.shtml

Ironheart

We tend to keep things loose here and not lose our cool over little things like typos.
Also many folks here don't speak English as a first language. So loosen up and lose the attitude :-) and keep the thread on topic...

jshirley

Well spoken Ironheart, well spoken. No trophy for me.

I like SD cards. I don't like cards with pins. But, I'm thinking this new card from Sandisk is way more than I need in SD card capability. I'm sticking with 24mp cameras anyway.