Sony Alpha a77 Mark II

sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
edited May 2014 in Other Manufacturers
So what do people think of the Sony Alpha a77 Mark II? 12 fps + the 70–400mm F4–5.6 G SSM II
Is this what Birders have been waiting for ?
Are Nikon likely to introduce a translucent mirror camera?
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  • anoano Posts: 27Member
    12 fps is a dream for sport and wildlife shooters.
    With NIKON, No hope for a such fps with less than 6 KEuros ...
  • haroldpharoldp Posts: 984Member

    Are Nikon likely to introduce a translucent mirror camera?
    i hope not.
    D810, D3x, 14-24/2.8, 50/1.4D, 24-70/2.8, 24-120/4 VR, 70-200/2.8 VR1, 80-400 G, 200-400/4 VR1, 400/2.8 ED VR G, 105/2 DC, 17-55/2.8.
    Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.

  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,168Member
    edited May 2014

    Is this what Birders have been waiting for ?
    Nope. EVF's don't refresh fast enough.
    Post edited by PB_PM on
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    quite a good explanation of "translucent mirror" by the man we love to hate
  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 2,127Member
    If the translucent mirror can be perfected, I can see this as the next progression for Nikon. I've shot the A77 Mk1 briefly, and the viewfinder was very good. I hate that the Alpha mount is reversed to mount lenses in comparison to Nikon- I nearly tried to rip the lens off the mount when I tried to change lenses...

    But anyways, it's a decent camera. It's also very, very quick.
    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
  • AdeAde Posts: 1,071Member
    Maybe the rumored Nikon D2300 will feature a semi-transparent mirror.
  • TaoTeJaredTaoTeJared Posts: 1,306Member
    12 fps is a dream for sport and wildlife shooters.
    With NIKON, No hope for a such fps with less than 6 KEuros ...
    Let's see what the shutter and mirror slap sounds like before saying that one ;) Poor Sony can never get that one right.

    FPS also doesn't mean "in focus" either. Sony's AF has always fallen short of Canon and Nikon. From what we have seen from their recent releases, it would be a stretch to believe this model will match them yet. Far improved though.

    Is this what Birders have been waiting for ?
    Nope. EVF's don't refresh fast enough.
    You need to play with the new Olympus Em-10 and Fuji X-T1. I was having a hard time getting them to blur out - they are just about there. Bigger problem is the image review in the viewfinder - have to make sure that is off. That was more annoying than helpful.
    Are Nikon likely to introduce a translucent mirror camera?
    I personally don't see that one happening. Interesting though that there is a EVF with it. It was originally to do both AF and view the image. Could be something similar for live-view with better AF.



    Sony said they wanted to become #1 in the camera market. This is just another release that shows they are serious and are now matching Canon and Nikon in most ways. Competition is good - maybe it will make Canon and Nikon get off the butts and start innovating and actually push them to put better, more advanced, and less unnecessarily handicapped models out. Sony is producing some very good camera's now - and the Zeiss glass is most definitely made them very competitive.
    D800, D300, D50(ir converted), FujiX100, Canon G11, Olympus TG2. Nikon lenses - 24mm 2.8, 35mm 1.8, (5 in all)50mm, 60mm, 85mm 1.8, 105vr, 105 f2.5, 180mm 2.8, 70-200vr1, 24-120vr f4. Tokina 12-24mm, 16-28mm, 28-70mm (angenieux design), 300mm f2.8. Sigma 15mm fisheye. Voigtlander R2 (olive) & R2a, Voigt 35mm 2.5, Zeiss 50mm f/2, Leica 90mm f/4. I know I missed something...
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,168Member
    edited May 2014

    Nope. EVF's don't refresh fast enough.
    You need to play with the new Olympus Em-10 and Fuji X-T1. I was having a hard time getting them to blur out - they are just about there. Bigger problem is the image review in the viewfinder - have to make sure that is off. That was more annoying than helpful.
    It's not the motion blur that's the issue here, it's the lag introduced by the EVF itself. In any case, I have no reason to "play" with those cameras, since I have no interest in any of the current mirrorless systems.
    Post edited by PB_PM on
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • haroldpharoldp Posts: 984Member
    A translucen mirror (read pellicle) loses 1/3 of the light (2/3 EV) from the focal plane. This translates to either needing a larger aperture, slower shutter speed or higher ISO.

    It will always be behind technologies that deliver all of the light, EVF or swinging mirror.

    ... H
    D810, D3x, 14-24/2.8, 50/1.4D, 24-70/2.8, 24-120/4 VR, 70-200/2.8 VR1, 80-400 G, 200-400/4 VR1, 400/2.8 ED VR G, 105/2 DC, 17-55/2.8.
    Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.

  • TaoTeJaredTaoTeJared Posts: 1,306Member
    It's not the motion blur that's the issue here, it's the lag introduced by the EVF itself. In any case, I have no reason to "play" with those cameras, since I have no interest in any of the current mirrorless systems.
    I was speaking to the lag as well - I just didn't word it correctly. You really should take a look - I seriously could not see any noticeable lag out of the Fuji X-T1 or the OMD-10. Fuji's is really nice - it blew me away. The Sony a7, just a slight lag but nothing that I could see causing any issue other than being a bit annoying if one is really focused on that quirk - which I would understand. It is just not correct to be so dismissive of (all) EVFs anymore. The higher end ones are almost all the way there and Fuji's I would say is there.
    D800, D300, D50(ir converted), FujiX100, Canon G11, Olympus TG2. Nikon lenses - 24mm 2.8, 35mm 1.8, (5 in all)50mm, 60mm, 85mm 1.8, 105vr, 105 f2.5, 180mm 2.8, 70-200vr1, 24-120vr f4. Tokina 12-24mm, 16-28mm, 28-70mm (angenieux design), 300mm f2.8. Sigma 15mm fisheye. Voigtlander R2 (olive) & R2a, Voigt 35mm 2.5, Zeiss 50mm f/2, Leica 90mm f/4. I know I missed something...
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