Nope, IMO the only reason for the matched TC for the 800mm was to extend the focal length behind what is currently offered. And, why would they want a 420mm f/4 if a TC-14XXX were added, and a TC-12EXXX would not make a lot of sense, adding only 60mm to the focal length.
Well ladies and gents, the day has come that, if and when Nikon releases a new version of this lens it will no longer matter to thee. As of today, I can officially say that I will soon be in the possession of the current model. Moreover, I think the price of the replacement will be above $6500. Looking forward in having the current model mounted on my D4 & D7000.
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D4 & D7000 | Nikon Holy Trinity Set + 105 2.8 Mico + 200 F2 VR II | 300 2.8G VR II, 10.5 Fish-eye, 24 & 50 1.4G, 35 & 85 1.8G, 18-200 3.5-5.6 VR I SB-400 & 700 | TC 1.4E III, 1.7 & 2.0E III, 1.7 | Sigma 35 & 50 1.4 DG HSM | RRS Ballhead & Tripods Gear | Gitzo Monopod | Lowepro Gear | HDR via Promote Control System |
@Golf007sd: Dont worry about a new version. The current one is fantastic. Even the old version is fantastic. It is a good bet that Nikon will give a new version a substantial price hike. I think you will be happy. I wish it was me waiting for my new 300 2.8 :-)
I am eagerly awaiting some good pictures on the PAD :-)
@WestEndBoy: My choice to go with the current 300 2.8 come down to some key features and functionality of the lens...for my style of photography and its intended usage I have in mind...which truth be told is wide open. :P
1) Hand hold-ability -- For me, mobility is a key factor, specially when seeking a large prime telephoto. Thus, the ability to hand hold a lens for a good duration of time was at the top of my list. Msmoto was kind enough to let me play with her 400 2.8 last year and right off the bat, to no surprise, this is not a lens one can hand hold for more than 6-10 seconds...only to put it down before one hurts themselves. It is without question a monopod or tripod /w gimbal setup usage...Period. The 200 F2, for all its glory, was just a bit to front heavy while I had it mounted on my D4...but this was not the reason I chose to pass on it. The 300 2.8, on the other hand, was the most well balance for this task. proudgeek was kind enough to allow me to play with his lens early this year and it sealed the deal for me in this criteria.
2) Travel portability -- When I travel, I like to take as much of my gear as possible, given my travel bags. I have one for all my tripod gear and one for my bodies and lenses. The front element on the 200 f2 is quite massive...as we all know; thus it requires special attention. While the 400 2.8 shear side is the issue itself. After considering the amount of volume both these lens took in my current bag, it put me off just a bit knowing some of the gear I love to take would not be coming along without an alternative solution. Despite the fact that Nikon does offer a very nice case for placing all these lenses in for travel, it is my preference to keep everything in one place and with me while traveling. The 300 2.8 was the balance, again in this department. Given that photography is a hobby for me, I do not want to be separated myself from my gear; to much at stake...if you know what I mean.
3) Focal length -- I wanted a 200+ lens. #1 reason why I passed on the 200 f/2. The 400 2.8 took the top spot here..but my last criteria over shadowed this by a large margin.
4) Price and availability in the used market. I'm all for saving capital where you can. This is where patience comes into play. All these lenses have been around for some time know, so finding a good deal was on my side. The current VR II G Nikon US models of the 200 & 300 are within a few hundred dollars of one another. The 400 2.8 VR II G, on the other hand are in short supply in the used market. Moreover after seeing what some of the used one's we're being priced at I stopped looking....for now.
Let me say that I hope one day to add both the 200 f2 and the 400 2.8 to my lens collection...they are all amazing...amazing...did I say...amazing lenses. One only has to look at some of the shots taken by msmoto and SquamishPhoto. Yet the 300 2.8 is a 10-out-of-10 as well.
I will caution anyone that is remotely thinking of these lenses: should you mount one on your body and press the shutter button, you will be hooked and find yourself doing what it takes to get one.
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D4 & D7000 | Nikon Holy Trinity Set + 105 2.8 Mico + 200 F2 VR II | 300 2.8G VR II, 10.5 Fish-eye, 24 & 50 1.4G, 35 & 85 1.8G, 18-200 3.5-5.6 VR I SB-400 & 700 | TC 1.4E III, 1.7 & 2.0E III, 1.7 | Sigma 35 & 50 1.4 DG HSM | RRS Ballhead & Tripods Gear | Gitzo Monopod | Lowepro Gear | HDR via Promote Control System |
I will caution anyone that is remotely thinking of these lenses: should you mount one on your body and press the shutter button, you will be hooked and find yourself doing what it take to get one.
No kidding! Once you have F2.8 at 300mm + there is no going back. Of course I still keep a 70-300mm VR for days when carrying around a 3KG/6lb lens around isn't reasonable. While my Sigma 120-300mm F2.8 isn't right on par, it's close (and yes I have shot with the 300mm F2.8G VRII). The only thing I miss is the AF of the Nikkor, which is simply superior.
If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
At the local (well 120 miles from my home) Eagle haunts (Conowingo Dam), I see lots of 400/2.8 , 500 / 4. 600 /4 etc coming out of cars worth a fraction of the lens cost.
It is question of what matters to an individual.
Each of us decides that for ourselves.
.... H
D810, D3x, 14-24/2.8, 50/1.4D, 24-70/2.8, 24-120/4 VR, 70-200/2.8 VR1, 80-400 G, 200-400/4 VR1, 400/2.8 ED VR G, 105/2 DC, 17-55/2.8. Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.
@WestEndBoy: My choice to go with the current 300 2.8 come down to some key features and functionality of the lens...for my style of photography and its intended usage I have in mind...which truth be told is wide open. :P
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I will caution anyone that is remotely thinking of these lenses: should you mount one on your body and press the shutter button, you will be hooked and find yourself doing what it takes to get one.
Yeah, I mounted a 400 2.8 VRII on my lens last fall. The bokeh looked great and it was the back wall of a store. It will be great for headshots.
@WestEndBoy: My choice to go with the current 300 2.8 come down to some key features and functionality of the lens...for my style of photography and its intended usage I have in mind...which truth be told is wide open. :P
I will caution anyone that is remotely thinking of these lenses: should you mount one on your body and press the shutter button, you will be hooked and find yourself doing what it takes to get one.
Golf, what a great analysis. Thanks for sharing your decision process. I have always shared an interest in this lens and have avoided putting one on my DSLR for fear that I would come down with Nikon Acquisition Fever.
Glad your moving forward now and not waiting for that replacement model.
D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX | |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
Ok it is official...I have become a addict. Came home after a 15 hour day and my new toy has arrived. Needless to say, I have been playing with it and OMFG. I'm in heaven. All the waiting, searching and the thousands of dollars that goes toward this lens is WORTH every dam penny!!!!! OOOh the speed...good God. Lenses of this caliber are made to live on a D3s, D4 & D4s. The body and lens just come ALIVE......
I just have one problem...how on earth am I going to get some sleep tonight...well this morning. I cannot wait to go shooting later today. Some body please slap me.
How on earth Nikon plans to improved the performance of this 300 2.8G is beyond me.
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D4 & D7000 | Nikon Holy Trinity Set + 105 2.8 Mico + 200 F2 VR II | 300 2.8G VR II, 10.5 Fish-eye, 24 & 50 1.4G, 35 & 85 1.8G, 18-200 3.5-5.6 VR I SB-400 & 700 | TC 1.4E III, 1.7 & 2.0E III, 1.7 | Sigma 35 & 50 1.4 DG HSM | RRS Ballhead & Tripods Gear | Gitzo Monopod | Lowepro Gear | HDR via Promote Control System |
Make certain the lens is in the case when you sleep with it Ali…… that way when it rolls off in the middle of the night to the floor…. no harm done….LOL
I think it is great to be excited about a new piece of equipment. This may result in our taking more care with the toys. I wish you well and let's see some snapshots…..
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|SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
I am eagerly awaiting some good pictures on the PAD :-)
It is about time…. you have been lusting after that lens forever…. 8->
It is a great lens. I ask because I am debating the 200 f2 vs the 400 f2.8. I have not really considered the 300 2.8.
I have time to consider because I will pick up the 58 and a DF first. So two to three years.
And what was the cause of your "lustus foreverus"? "Spousus convincus"?
1) Hand hold-ability -- For me, mobility is a key factor, specially when seeking a large prime telephoto. Thus, the ability to hand hold a lens for a good duration of time was at the top of my list. Msmoto was kind enough to let me play with her 400 2.8 last year and right off the bat, to no surprise, this is not a lens one can hand hold for more than 6-10 seconds...only to put it down before one hurts themselves. It is without question a monopod or tripod /w gimbal setup usage...Period. The 200 F2, for all its glory, was just a bit to front heavy while I had it mounted on my D4...but this was not the reason I chose to pass on it. The 300 2.8, on the other hand, was the most well balance for this task. proudgeek was kind enough to allow me to play with his lens early this year and it sealed the deal for me in this criteria.
2) Travel portability -- When I travel, I like to take as much of my gear as possible, given my travel bags. I have one for all my tripod gear and one for my bodies and lenses. The front element on the 200 f2 is quite massive...as we all know; thus it requires special attention. While the 400 2.8 shear side is the issue itself. After considering the amount of volume both these lens took in my current bag, it put me off just a bit knowing some of the gear I love to take would not be coming along without an alternative solution. Despite the fact that Nikon does offer a very nice case for placing all these lenses in for travel, it is my preference to keep everything in one place and with me while traveling. The 300 2.8 was the balance, again in this department. Given that photography is a hobby for me, I do not want to be separated myself from my gear; to much at stake...if you know what I mean.
3) Focal length -- I wanted a 200+ lens. #1 reason why I passed on the 200 f/2. The 400 2.8 took the top spot here..but my last criteria over shadowed this by a large margin.
4) Price and availability in the used market. I'm all for saving capital where you can. This is where patience comes into play. All these lenses have been around for some time know, so finding a good deal was on my side. The current VR II G Nikon US models of the 200 & 300 are within a few hundred dollars of one another. The 400 2.8 VR II G, on the other hand are in short supply in the used market. Moreover after seeing what some of the used one's we're being priced at I stopped looking....for now.
Let me say that I hope one day to add both the 200 f2 and the 400 2.8 to my lens collection...they are all amazing...amazing...did I say...amazing lenses. One only has to look at some of the shots taken by msmoto and SquamishPhoto. Yet the 300 2.8 is a 10-out-of-10 as well.
I will caution anyone that is remotely thinking of these lenses: should you mount one on your body and press the shutter button, you will be hooked and find yourself doing what it takes to get one.
It is question of what matters to an individual.
Each of us decides that for ourselves.
.... H
Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.
Glad your moving forward now and not waiting for that replacement model.
|SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
I just have one problem...how on earth am I going to get some sleep tonight...well this morning. I cannot wait to go shooting later today. Some body please slap me.
How on earth Nikon plans to improved the performance of this 300 2.8G is beyond me.
|SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |