Nikon Lens - Light Flare?

Swame_spSwame_sp Posts: 58Member
edited January 2013 in Nikon DSLR cameras
For the last few months I have been noticing a kinda flare on the images, particularly on this lens and I'm not sure what's causing this. Any suggestions?
Body - D7000
Lens - 35mm f1.8 G
Settings - f1.8/ISO 1600/35mm/0ev

DSC_3717

There are bunch of lights just outside the tree.
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  • TaoTeJaredTaoTeJared Posts: 1,306Member
    Image is a bit small again - Post them on Flickr at full res so we can tell.

    It looks like you have a cheaper UV filter on and the light is reflecting off the lens, back into the filter and so on.
    D800, D300, D50(ir converted), FujiX100, Canon G11, Olympus TG2. Nikon lenses - 24mm 2.8, 35mm 1.8, (5 in all)50mm, 60mm, 85mm 1.8, 105vr, 105 f2.5, 180mm 2.8, 70-200vr1, 24-120vr f4. Tokina 12-24mm, 16-28mm, 28-70mm (angenieux design), 300mm f2.8. Sigma 15mm fisheye. Voigtlander R2 (olive) & R2a, Voigt 35mm 2.5, Zeiss 50mm f/2, Leica 90mm f/4. I know I missed something...
  • TonTon Posts: 509Member
    edited January 2013
    When I shot candle lights in the room with the 35mm f/1.8G I got 4 green dots as flair a couple of times. It had an UV filter (not a cheap one) on it. When I took that off it became better, but sometimes flair remain. The solution then was a slightly different angle.

    The same happened with my 24-70mm f/2.8 on the D300, night photography with street lights.
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 5,141Moderator
    I wonder if there is some kind of high intensity light source on the tree that is shining directly into the lens because it is only the one patch of green dots - nothing else.

    How about you throw up one of the pictures from the 24-70 outside so we can see that too.
    Always learning.
  • TonTon Posts: 509Member
    edited January 2013
    Good idea Spraynpray.

    In this case I made 3 photo's, different angles, but all with flair.
    The second a little bit less.

    image
    Nikon D300, 24-70mm f/2.8, 70mm (105mm), 1.0 sec, f/5.6, ISO 250, tripod

    image
    Nikon D300, 24-70mm f/2.8, 70mm (105mm), 2.0 sec, f/5.6, ISO 250, tripod
    Post edited by Ton on
    Those who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it!
  • chrisjakeschrisjakes Posts: 43Member
    i've had the same problem with shooting christmas lights only though........
  • Swame_spSwame_sp Posts: 58Member
  • JJ_SOJJ_SO Posts: 1,158Member
    That looks interesting. Never saw such mirrored lights before. It's not flares, I'd call that reflections. Or small UFOs.
  • MikeGunterMikeGunter Posts: 536Member
    Hi,

    Do you use filters?

    My best,

    Mike
  • Swame_spSwame_sp Posts: 58Member
    @Mike, there is Tiffen UV filter. I remember capturing the image with and without filter and both had this weird thing next to the tree. I don't have image without filter. I don't have my camera with me to try out, it's with nikon for sensor dust cleaning.
  • JJ_SOJJ_SO Posts: 1,158Member
    edited January 2013
    I'm not using filters as standard protection. I felt confirmed when I read in one of Roger Cicala's blog, a good filter is more expensive or almost the same than the most front elements of the lenses; even tiny scratches would hardly become visible. I tried and found some slights flares on my nightshots, but not of that amount.
    image
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  • TaoTeJaredTaoTeJared Posts: 1,306Member
    My experience is if you are not paying at least $50 for a 52mm filter or $120 for a 77mm filter then you will get the light reflections you are seeing. It is in the coatings that help the reflection. Lens flair is something very different and covers more of the image.

    If you note Ton's images you can tell it is a reflection by the angle, If you play pool/billiards you can draw the lines in your head and see the "bounce" back effect.
    D800, D300, D50(ir converted), FujiX100, Canon G11, Olympus TG2. Nikon lenses - 24mm 2.8, 35mm 1.8, (5 in all)50mm, 60mm, 85mm 1.8, 105vr, 105 f2.5, 180mm 2.8, 70-200vr1, 24-120vr f4. Tokina 12-24mm, 16-28mm, 28-70mm (angenieux design), 300mm f2.8. Sigma 15mm fisheye. Voigtlander R2 (olive) & R2a, Voigt 35mm 2.5, Zeiss 50mm f/2, Leica 90mm f/4. I know I missed something...
  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,189Moderator
    I will have to admit... I find flare, the spots, a part of the photographic process. If very objectionable I will minimize them or eliminate them. But, in looking into lights, some of us older folks have our own version of lens flare... :))
    Msmoto, mod
  • safyresafyre Posts: 113Member
    I'd scrap the filter completely, as it's irrelevant with digital and Tiffen is notorious for producing low quality filters. The last time I used a Tiffen filter was when I intentionally wanted more haze, flare, and reflections in my photo, lol!
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 5,141Moderator
    That is a puzzler Ton. I would expect it with the 14-24, but not the 24-70. I realise it is likely to be too late to redo the shots, but maybe another shot at f8 and ISO 100 off a tripod would have done better. I say that because I have recently shot a bridge at night with a long exposure (30s) on ISO 100 and not had any issues like yours - that was a Tokina 11-16 tho and that is a w/a f2.8 lens so more likely to flare normally.
    Always learning.
  • TonTon Posts: 509Member
    I edited my post with the EXIF. No problem to redo the shot, but too cold, snow and slush and .... here.
    It is around the corner, so one day I go back and make a couple of different shots, now with the D600 and see what happens.

    I wonder about - reflections -, there was nothing in the area that could reflect something.
    Those who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it!
  • kyoshinikonkyoshinikon Posts: 410Member
    It is the UV hands down... That is also my one beef with the 14-24mm is the ghosting. The 10.5mm and 17-35mm don't seem to do that.
    “To photograph is to hold one’s breath, when all faculties converge to capture fleeting reality. It’s at that precise moment that mastering an image becomes a great physical and intellectual joy.” - Bresson
  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 1,702Member
    My experience is if you are not paying at least $50 for a 52mm filter or $120 for a 77mm filter then you will get the light reflections you are seeing. It is in the coatings that help the reflection. Lens flair is something very different and covers more of the image.

    If you note Ton's images you can tell it is a reflection by the angle, If you play pool/billiards you can draw the lines in your head and see the "bounce" back effect.
    I used to get flares with the 35mm 1.8 because I have a cheap filter on. Now I know that if I need it for night time stuff or specific occasions, I will take off the 52mm UV filter. It is only a cheap Tiffen one, but I only consider it to be a transparent lens cap.
    I will have to admit... I find flare, the spots, a part of the photographic process. If very objectionable I will minimize them or eliminate them. But, in looking into lights, some of us older folks have our own version of lens flare... :))
    Flares are flares, but sometimes they are incredibly annoying.

    Examples here-

    Here is one shot with the filter on.

    DSC_7062

    Here is the same shot with the filter off.

    DSC_7063
    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
  • TonTon Posts: 509Member
    edited January 2013
    Just info. Price of filters, I bought the Kenko Pro1 Digital Protector (W) in Holland for € 89,95 !!. This one is considered one of the best in Dutch reviews. After I damage my 24-70mm I bought the same filter in Hongkong for ... $ 30.- OK, I have been robbed by the Dutch shop.

    @ NSXTypeR, your photo's says it all.
    Post edited by Ton on
    Those who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it!
  • TaoTeJaredTaoTeJared Posts: 1,306Member
    I might think that you got a fake one in HK and got robbed there. - just a thought. ;)
    D800, D300, D50(ir converted), FujiX100, Canon G11, Olympus TG2. Nikon lenses - 24mm 2.8, 35mm 1.8, (5 in all)50mm, 60mm, 85mm 1.8, 105vr, 105 f2.5, 180mm 2.8, 70-200vr1, 24-120vr f4. Tokina 12-24mm, 16-28mm, 28-70mm (angenieux design), 300mm f2.8. Sigma 15mm fisheye. Voigtlander R2 (olive) & R2a, Voigt 35mm 2.5, Zeiss 50mm f/2, Leica 90mm f/4. I know I missed something...
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 3,343Member
    edited January 2013
    Either that or you didn't have to pay for the shipping of the item from China and the import duties that the seller in the Netherlands had to pay to stock it (along with the usual markups).
    Post edited by PB_PM on
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  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 1,702Member
    I might think that you got a fake one in HK and got robbed there. - just a thought. ;)
    Nah, I got that filter ages ago at J and R when I got my 35mm 1.8. It was around $10 though. I wasn't expecting earth shattering performance, but I wasn't expecting that sort of flare either.
    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
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