I agree with @PitchBlack & @JJ_SO - there is a certain type of person who likes super wide angle shots.
In my "old" SLR film days I avoided zoom lens and had these Nikon prime lens: 24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 60mm macro, 135mm and 200mm lens with a non Nikon telextender. The least used lens in my bag was the 24mm lens. Once I looked at some wider prime lens and it was not what I wanted. nor could I afford them.
Reference my current lens below. I do admit today I do find myself shooting more images at 17 to 24mm (25.5 to 36mm) than I use to. I use the 17-55/2.8 for 80% of my work. I expect that over the next six months I will add a FF body to my bag; probably a D750. I plan to add the 24-70mm at that time for the majority of my pictures. However, it does raise the issue - what if I need something wider. After reading several forums I just don't see the 14-24/4 being for me and expect I may have to add the 16-35/4 but that $1260 lens is not in my budget. Because I have nothing wider than a 17-55 DX zoom today; I just cross my fingers that the 24-70mm lens will be my go to lens. Looking at the numbers I should be okay.
So I really do understand where PitchBladk and JJ_SO are coming from. Not my cup of tea.
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While this certainly does not apply to Pitchblack or JJ_SO, you have to know what you are doing to appreciate a wide angle. Most people think that it is for getting it all in - and it is certainly good at that. Where it really comes into its own is the ability to exploit perspectives and angles to produce an interesting image. Few people, including myself, really know how to do this. I think it is almost like you are using the lens, particularly the ultra ultra wide (say 14mm), to create an alternative reality.
How about the old Nikon 20-35mm Zoom. f2.8 and a uses a standard 77mm filter. Ok you lose a bit on the wide end but you save a lot of cash as you can find a good used example for $500 or so. And at 640 grams it is about half the weight. The old f2.8 trio of 20-35, 35-70, 70-200 f2.8 D zooms are still pretty sharp and you can buy them for the cost of one of the new AFS replacements.
While this certainly does not apply to Pitchblack or JJ_SO, you have to know what you are doing to appreciate a wide angle. Most people think that it is for getting it all in - and it is certainly good at that. Where it really comes into its own is the ability to exploit perspectives and angles to produce an interesting image. Few people, including myself, really know how to do this. I think it is almost like you are using the lens, particularly the ultra ultra wide (say 14mm), to create an alternative reality.
Oh I agree with that...you have to know how to exploit perspectives and angles to produce an interesting image. Very few people know how to use those wide wide angle lens.
Even at my age, I have that same weakness. I been shooting SLR's & DSLR's for 50+ years.
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There is a glimmer of what I mean in this image taken with my 20mm. It was taken about 5 inches off the ground. What I do think it does is portray the subject (the road) in a wider context that adds meaning to the road and that is interesting. Only a wide angle can do this.
As far as the alternate reality goes, I don't think I have achieved that, though I do think that this image is on the path to that destination (what did I just say, what the hell does that mean!?!?!?).
Unfortunately, I can't think of an image I have at 14mm that conveys the idea. They are all "get it all in" images. Sounds like I have identified an interesting photo project.
Maybe favoring wide or more tele depends a lot from the own eyesight? I know I couldn't borrow other people's eyes but I think some of us have a broader and other a more selective view. To me, the surely fantastic 200-400 would be pretty wasted in my hands. I don't think I'd know properly where to point it at. Nearly half of my pictures were taken at 35mm or shorter. And traveling around with "only" three lenses means the 14-24 will be one of them.
Living in a small country with small streets and small rooms and maybe also not want to drag attention to me has also something to do with it, I guess. Longer than 300mm? Birders and sport shooters.
@WestEndBoy Today I brought out the lens and shot Chicago similar to your link. I hope to process this week and share some.
I like the Distorted, weird angles to create fun pictures or something diffrent eve if it is not landscape or architecture.
Here is a photo of car just for fun. I would probably use something like a 35mm-85mm for a normal looking car but for a different type of shot this works for me
The level of creativity the 14-24 offers is fantastic. it is an idle choice for landscape, architectural, nature photography, etc..etc.
For those that intend to use this lens in order to attract the audience to a specific subject matter, I have found that this is best accomplished by making sure the surround "bends" around the subject at hand.
@PitcheBlack. If possible, I would welcome seeing some of the images Lupe took with the 14-24...given her love for the lens. Lastly, I hope she ends up keeping it by purchasing it from you.
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In my "old" SLR film days I avoided zoom lens and had these Nikon prime lens: 24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 60mm macro, 135mm and 200mm lens with a non Nikon telextender. The least used lens in my bag was the 24mm lens. Once I looked at some wider prime lens and it was not what I wanted. nor could I afford them.
Reference my current lens below. I do admit today I do find myself shooting more images at 17 to 24mm (25.5 to 36mm) than I use to. I use the 17-55/2.8 for 80% of my work. I expect that over the next six months I will add a FF body to my bag; probably a D750. I plan to add the 24-70mm at that time for the majority of my pictures. However, it does raise the issue - what if I need something wider. After reading several forums I just don't see the 14-24/4 being for me and expect I may have to add the 16-35/4 but that $1260 lens is not in my budget. Because I have nothing wider than a 17-55 DX zoom today; I just cross my fingers that the 24-70mm lens will be my go to lens. Looking at the numbers I should be okay.
So I really do understand where PitchBladk and JJ_SO are coming from. Not my cup of tea.
|SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
D3 • D750 • 14-24mm f2.8 • 35mm f1.4A • PC-E 45mm f2.8 • 50mm f1.8G • AF-D 85mm f1.4 • ZF.2 100mm f2 • 200mm f2 VR2
Even at my age, I have that same weakness. I been shooting SLR's & DSLR's for 50+ years.
|SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
There is a glimmer of what I mean in this image taken with my 20mm. It was taken about 5 inches off the ground. What I do think it does is portray the subject (the road) in a wider context that adds meaning to the road and that is interesting. Only a wide angle can do this.
As far as the alternate reality goes, I don't think I have achieved that, though I do think that this image is on the path to that destination (what did I just say, what the hell does that mean!?!?!?).
Unfortunately, I can't think of an image I have at 14mm that conveys the idea. They are all "get it all in" images. Sounds like I have identified an interesting photo project.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/abiola/14774516548/in/pool-nikkor1424/
Living in a small country with small streets and small rooms and maybe also not want to drag attention to me has also something to do with it, I guess. Longer than 300mm? Birders and sport shooters.
I like the Distorted, weird angles to create fun pictures or something diffrent eve if it is not landscape or architecture.
Here is a photo of car just for fun. I would probably use something like a 35mm-85mm for a normal looking car but for a different type of shot this works for me
For those that intend to use this lens in order to attract the audience to a specific subject matter, I have found that this is best accomplished by making sure the surround "bends" around the subject at hand.
@PitcheBlack. If possible, I would welcome seeing some of the images Lupe took with the 14-24...given her love for the lens. Lastly, I hope she ends up keeping it by purchasing it from you.
@PitchBlack you had some nice series on FB
Here is on of my looking up shots. I helps to have blue skies
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Great video Bokeh Hunter secret has been out for a while now