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  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member


    If you're on a budget, DX would probably do everything FX could do, 98% of the time.
    very true

    But if you are a professional. It is that 2%, that brings home the bacon
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  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,745Member


    If you're on a budget, DX would probably do everything FX could do, 98% of the time.
    This also assumes that you have an average shooting style. I imagine that I could say 100% of the time to many amateurs and even some professionals. But with some shooters, it might be less than 50%.
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  • tmantman Posts: 27Member
    I’m going from D7000 with 17-55 to D750 and 24-70. I’m hoping there’s a difference for sure. (Previous upgrade was from D70 to D7000 which was a nice upgrade path)
    How was your experience with upgrade?
    I just moved D7000 --> D750. Less than 1 day in, low light performance utterly blows me away.
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  • perkedelperkedel Posts: 19Member
    OP here. So I took it for a 4 hour outdoor photoshoot today with the new D610.
    What a hefty camera. Hurts my lats lol.. I'm not used to that kind of weight.
    when I first tried it, focus is very fast, didn't feel the 2nd stage shutter. I was like, oh, it took a picture?
    It's easier to get some sharp images at f2.8 with the 85. On the 28 at open wide, I see more of vignetting than with the old camera. I suppose that's fine.
    Quality and colors are great :D
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  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    I see more of vignetting than with the old camera.
    It should be easy to automatically remove that in Lightroom
    just enable profile correction on import
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,192Member
    edited June 2015
    ...
    What a hefty camera. Hurts my lats lol.. I'm not used to that kind of weight.
    ...
    lol you should try the D810 with battery grip and a 70-200 F2.8 !!
    ...
    ...
    Quality and colors are great :D
    I think the D610 has the BEST colours !! (.. well .. in the nikon line up ;-) )

    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

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  • manhattanboymanhattanboy Posts: 1,003Member
    Since I moved to a D810, comparing the D810 to a D300s, there is no question the D300s is not able to keep up.
    I agree with this post. The buffer and speed in crop mode on the 810 are great (!). I love that shutter. Unfortunately the same speed and buffer doesn't occur for the FF shots as I frequently run into problems during action sequences.
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  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Just pointing out that the D7200 in 1.3 crop mode will go 6fps (only one slower than the D300s) and still capture 15.3MP, (exactly the same as a DX crop on a D810), with the slight advantage of the 1.3 crop. A 300mm lens is a 450 on DX, and a 585 on DX + 1.3. All this for $1200, vs $3000. The difference almost pays for a 300mm f/4 PF ;-)
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,192Member
    edited June 2015
    D7200 in 1.3 crop can go at 7fps not 6fps :-)
    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

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  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    Yes, I stand corrected. All the better then to go with a D7200 over the D810, if you are going to shoot in crop mode anyway!
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  • manhattanboymanhattanboy Posts: 1,003Member
    Just pointing out that the D7200 in 1.3 crop mode will go 6fps (only one slower than the D300s) and still capture 15.3MP, (exactly the same as a DX crop on a D810), with the slight advantage of the 1.3 crop. A 300mm lens is a 450 on DX, and a 585 on DX + 1.3. All this for $1200, vs $3000. The difference almost pays for a 300mm f/4 PF ;-)
    I agree with everything you wrote. The shutter on the 810 is better (softer) and the buffer clears faster from the CF versus SD, but those are not worth the price differential. I am right there with you and what you wrote is why I still lug my DX around despite it being a cheapo compared to the 810. But that DX scenario is geared toward someone shooting fast, distant action like BIF or football/soccer. If you wanted landscapes or studio shots, the 810 would be the more recommended purchase.
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  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    ...that DX scenario is geared toward someone shooting fast, distant action like BIF or football/soccer. If you wanted landscapes or studio shots, the 810 would be the more recommended purchase.
    100% Agree
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  • tcole1983tcole1983 Posts: 981Member
    edited June 2015
    I think it is funny when those that have gone to FX compare a body that is 3 or more generations behind. The D300s was comparable in performance (not features) as my D5000...and there is a D5500 now. People going from a 6 year old 12 MP DX to a brand newest tech 36 MP camera are probably going to be blown away. The ISO handling on the older bodies like the D300s was fairly atrocious. This is all with the disclaimer that FX is still outperforming DX, but the difference between say the D610 and D7200 isn't that far as the old generation DX bodies that most seem to compare. Some of those that have the D7100 and have gotten some of the new FX bodies don't seem to be as mystified by them as the jump from the old 12 MP DX bodies. I think if some of those that made that large jump went back and shot say the new D7200 would probably be impressed that it doesn't stink as much as their old DX bodies...just my point of view from the DX fanboy here. If one has the funds though and the glass then FX might be the way to the light...
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    D5200, D5000, S31, 18-55 VR, 17-55 F2.8, 35 F1.8G, 105 F2.8 VR, 300 F4 AF-S (Previously owned 18-200 VRI, Tokina 12-24 F4 II)
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  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,398Moderator
    Well, I love my 135/f2.....wide open!
    Msmoto, mod
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  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    I think it is funny when those that have gone to FX compare a body that is 3 or more generations behind. The D300s was comparable in performance (not features) as my D5000...and there is a D5500 now. People going from a 6 year old 12 MP DX to a brand newest tech 36 MP camera are probably going to be blown away. The ISO handling on the older bodies like the D300s was fairly atrocious. This is all with the disclaimer that FX is still outperforming DX, but the difference between say the D610 and D7200 isn't that far as the old generation DX bodies that most seem to compare. Some of those that have the D7100 and have gotten some of the new FX bodies don't seem to be as mystified by them as the jump from the old 12 MP DX bodies. I think if some of those that made that large jump went back and shot say the new D7200 would probably be impressed that it doesn't stink as much as their old DX bodies...just my point of view from the DX fanboy here. If one has the funds though and the glass then FX might be the way to the light...
    Agree...+1
    I made the decision last November to add the D750 to my tool box and don't regret it. My plan was and still is to use the D750 from 24mm to 200mm and the D7100 from 200mm and up. So far it works great. I will know more in late August when I am going on a 2 week vacation and will be shooting landscape and wildlife.

    Do plan to use the 70-200 lens on the D750 n FX and DX mode too.

    Finally, when I moved from the D300 to D7100 the IQ and DR just blew me away. Even my non photography inclined son and his wife saw the improvement in IQ.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
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  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 2,293Member

    very true

    But if you are a professional. It is that 2%, that brings home the bacon
    That's true too. But then money wouldn't be a concern as you'd only want the very best gear available.

    This also assumes that you have an average shooting style. I imagine that I could say 100% of the time to many amateurs and even some professionals. But with some shooters, it might be less than 50%.
    Yeah, my shooting style is very general. A smattering of family photos, the occasional portrait, some streetscape, some macro and general automotive stuff is what I do most.

    With interchangeable lenses, DX has not been a detriment to my photography style. I would imagine if you go into serious architectural photography or night/astrophotography and want tilt shift, DX would be a hinderance, although probably still doable.
    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
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  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    But then money wouldn't be a concern
    If you earn your living from photography, Money is always a concern :)
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  • snakebunksnakebunk Posts: 993Member
    But then money wouldn't be a concern
    If you earn your living from photography, Money is always a concern :)
    Good point. You have to justify the investment.
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  • Freedom7Freedom7 Posts: 13Member
    I’m going from D7000 with 17-55 to D750 and 24-70. I’m hoping there’s a difference for sure. (Previous upgrade was from D70 to D7000 which was a nice upgrade path)
    How was your experience with upgrade?
    I just moved D7000 --> D750. Less than 1 day in, low light performance utterly blows me away.
    Apologies tman only just seen your question. Unfortunately i couldn't afford to make that upgrade but still plan on that route this summer so interested if you have found it a good one
    D7000, 17-55 2.8, 85 1.8, 50 1.4, 35 1.8
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  • perkedelperkedel Posts: 19Member

    I think the D610 has the BEST colours !! (.. well .. in the nikon line up ;-) )
    I see some grain when looking at some of the water lily photos that I took with the D5100, using same lens in A mode at f/1.8. I thought that's pretty interesting. I have quite several awesome pics with the D5100.
    I came back to it since I got a new bag for the D610 walk around.
    I felt like I was holding a P&S :)
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    It's hard to find a bag that would fit the D610 with the grip attached. I have a Tenba messenger for the D5100 walk around, and a lighter Lowepro Event Messenger if I just need to have a camera without spare lenses and flashes. When I have a photoshoot and I need to bring a spare lens and the speedlights, I use the Lowepro Pro Runner bag. I finally picked up a Tenba Sling medium at Samy's for the D610 and the grip.
    image

    It's pretty cool that the Tenba Sling can fit the two cameras, though I probably only load the D610, it would be too heavy for both on a sling bag.
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