I personally would love them to update the Nikon AF-S 200-400mm F4 VR II - I know it's much more recent than others listed here, but it's design hasn't changed for the best part of 12 years - it's just had minor revisions such as a VR upgrade.
I feel it lacks on the higher end bodies like the D810, and the Canon version is definitely a step up in quality - although it costs a colossal amount of money!!
My guess is that if Nikon did release a new and improved version, it would cost a lot of money! But hopefully it would be worth it!
They could add the PF to the lens and the price would jump 15 to 20%. I really expect the PF feature to expand across many lens over the next 5 years. This seams like a great lens to reduce the size and weight. It comes down to the $$$$$. At what number is a lens too expensive?
D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX | |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
I guess it's more about the improvements for me. If they improved the 200-400 F4 VR II enough that there was a substantial increase in IQ, along with size/weight reduction, then it would be worth it - almost regardless of the price!
Question for MsMoto and other older photographers. Any one ever owned a Nikon 18mm F4 lens? It sure is a nice looking lens. See KR's comments at http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/18mm-f4.htm
D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX | |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
They could add the PF to the lens and the price would jump 15 to 20%. I really expect the PF feature to expand across many lens over the next 5 years. This seams like a great lens to reduce the size and weight. It comes down to the $$$$$. At what number is a lens too expensive?
I think that they will use PF on the cheaper lenses to keep cost and weight down with some sacrifice in non-sharpness related IQ (the flaring). I think that they will use fluorite where this compromise is not acceptable. I wonder which category the 200-400 falls into.
I see the 200-400 falling in the Pro quality lens area but I wouldn't be shocked if it wasn't either. I think the build quality of this lens is excellent. The only true complaint I have really seen is photographing subjects at long distances. Some, even Thom, do not like the lens for distant shots but up close love it. I think some of the distant shot problem is people not familiar with taking photographs with lenses over 200mm and some side effects like heat waves appearing in photos, although I am sure Thom knows how to use a long lens and when to use it.
I will counter my first comment by saying maybe there is some significant sample variation between lenses, so maybe Thom got a bad copy or two for his test. The other fact is now that other companies have put out lenses like 150-600 more people know how to shoot with longer lenses. The fact that this lens is almost $7k puts it in the professional category to me but I would have to agree that this lens needs a revamp maybe only because of a "bad rap" that it may or may not deserve.
I have personally used this lens, I will admit that long range shots did not appear as sharp. This was in the middle of the desert and I was shooting over a paved surface in the afternoon/late evening, temps probably a bit over 100 degrees F, not exactly long range friendly.
They could add the PF to the lens and the price would jump 15 to 20%. I really expect the PF feature to expand across many lens over the next 5 years. This seams like a great lens to reduce the size and weight. It comes down to the $$$$$. At what number is a lens too expensive?
I think that they will use PF on the cheaper lenses to keep cost and weight down with some sacrifice in non-sharpness related IQ (the flaring). I think that they will use fluorite where this compromise is not acceptable. I wonder which category the 200-400 falls into.
Excellent question on the 200-400mm lens. It makes sense to use use Fluorite instead of PF where it does not make sense.
D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX | |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
I'm not sure it matters what Nikon updates at the rate Sigma is producing quality glass. That said, I would like to see an update to the 135mm if it's before Sigma does it.
I bought mine last year to make sure I didn't get stuck with a new model. I love the manual focus ring, don't want VR, a thousand dollar premium, and I doubt it will get sharper.
I bought mine last year to make sure I didn't get stuck with a new model. I love the manual focus ring, don't want VR, a thousand dollar premium, and I doubt it will get sharper.
And, so am I, the 200mm f/2 PF. If it looks as good as it sounds, this should perform with the new TC-14EIII, with Fluorine Coating, like a 300mm f/2.8. My predictions....
And, Fluorine Coating, ....oh golly another thread....
I bought mine last year to make sure I didn't get stuck with a new model. I love the manual focus ring, don't want VR, a thousand dollar premium, and I doubt it will get sharper.
Yes no VR, but f/2.8 be nice.
On a macro? My biggest challenge is getting enough light on the subject so I can stop down to f/16.
I like the concept of PF but from what I have read there are some flare issues. I will take the extra weight of a non-PF version if it means the highest quality. It will still be an easy hold compared with a 400mm f/2.8. I do like the concept of turning the 200mm f/2 into a 280mm if the TC does not provide noticeable degradation. My experience with the TC-20Eiii has soured me on TCs though.
I bought mine last year to make sure I didn't get stuck with a new model. I love the manual focus ring, don't want VR, a thousand dollar premium, and I doubt it will get sharper.
Yes no VR, but f/2.8 be nice.
On a macro? My biggest challenge is getting enough light on the subject so I can stop down to f/16.
I got a ring light and some time use a reflector and that solved the issue getting enough light on the subject. I did not spend big $$$ either, less than $100 for both.
D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX | |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
anybody interested in updating 17-55 f/2.8 for aps-c? How about a 16-85 f/4?
The 17-55 F2.8 lens was my work horse for several cameras. I sold it a few months ago when I switched to FX for wide angle and short telephoto work. Still use the D7100 for long telephoto work. I forgot the freedom you get with two DSLR's. This lens really needs an update.
D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX | |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
I bought mine last year to make sure I didn't get stuck with a new model. I love the manual focus ring, don't want VR, a thousand dollar premium, and I doubt it will get sharper.
Yes no VR, but f/2.8 be nice.
200 f/4 macro Just because the plate on the lens says macro don't mean that you have to use it for macro. Minimum Focus Distance: 1.6' never had a problem with lighting. This lens hunts alot just like there 105 macro. This lens is built like a tank. I believe this lens came out 1993 it needs a update. shorter, lighter, faster!
Well from the above list I will be waiting for 135mm f2 G version to add one more feather in my crown for my portraits. Currently I have primes all f1.8 G version of 28mm for group shots, 50mm for full body shot , 85mm for half body shot & 105mm for shoulder to head shot. 135mm G will definitely help me cover some what missing gap as I heard 101% positive feedback of this lens for D version.
- 135 f/2 or a lighter 70-200 f/2.8. - 400mm f/4 or a 300-600 mm: anything allowing to reach 600mm at a reasonnable price with a reasonnable weight with a good IQ.
I would love to see a 400mm f/4 PF. EDIT: Make that 400mm f/5.6 PF, now that I've checked the price & weight of the Canon 400mm f/4 DO! ($6469 and still heavier than the 80-400 G.) Although based on the 300mm PF, maybe Nikon can do a lot better than the Canon with both weight & price?
I've found 400mm to be the ideal FL for birding. The ability to add a TC-14E iii to get to 560mm without being a beast would be awesome. Not concerned with flare as I rarely shoot directly towards the sun.
I know that the 35mm 1.8G was released last year, but, I would like to see the following lenses updated with the newer faster AF-S and Nano coating:
35mm f/1.8G 50mm f/1.4G 50mm f/1.8G 85mm f/1.8G
Nikon has alreadt release the 20mm and 28mm f/1.8 with Nano and fast AF-S motors. I'd like to see them round off their prime catalog with similar features.
For me: NIKON 17-35mm f/2.8 (The constant 2.8 needs to stay! the 16-35mm f/4 just not enough PRO Quality/IC in it) Would like to see an updated Nikon 58mm f/1.2 Noct-NIKKOR like others have mentioned. More FX lenses please.... Hate to lose the MP due to "Crop Factor" on D750 & D610 cameras. Thanks for asking.
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I feel it lacks on the higher end bodies like the D810, and the Canon version is definitely a step up in quality - although it costs a colossal amount of money!!
My guess is that if Nikon did release a new and improved version, it would cost a lot of money! But hopefully it would be worth it!
|SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
|SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
I will counter my first comment by saying maybe there is some significant sample variation between lenses, so maybe Thom got a bad copy or two for his test. The other fact is now that other companies have put out lenses like 150-600 more people know how to shoot with longer lenses. The fact that this lens is almost $7k puts it in the professional category to me but I would have to agree that this lens needs a revamp maybe only because of a "bad rap" that it may or may not deserve.
I have personally used this lens, I will admit that long range shots did not appear as sharp. This was in the middle of the desert and I was shooting over a paved surface in the afternoon/late evening, temps probably a bit over 100 degrees F, not exactly long range friendly.
|SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
And, so am I, the 200mm f/2 PF. If it looks as good as it sounds, this should perform with the new TC-14EIII, with Fluorine Coating, like a 300mm f/2.8. My predictions....
And, Fluorine Coating, ....oh golly another thread....
http://forum.nikonrumors.com/discussion/3944/fluorine-coating-all-comments-#Item_1
I like the concept of PF but from what I have read there are some flare issues. I will take the extra weight of a non-PF version if it means the highest quality. It will still be an easy hold compared with a 400mm f/2.8.
I do like the concept of turning the 200mm f/2 into a 280mm if the TC does not provide noticeable degradation. My experience with the TC-20Eiii has soured me on TCs though.
|SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
|SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
Minimum Focus Distance: 1.6' never had a problem with lighting.
This lens hunts alot just like there 105 macro.
This lens is built like a tank. I believe this lens came out 1993 it needs a update. shorter, lighter, faster!
Currently I have primes all f1.8 G version of 28mm for group shots, 50mm for full body shot , 85mm for half body shot & 105mm for shoulder to head shot.
135mm G will definitely help me cover some what missing gap as I heard 101% positive feedback of this lens for D version.
- 135 f/2 or a lighter 70-200 f/2.8.
- 400mm f/4 or a 300-600 mm: anything allowing to reach 600mm at a reasonnable price with a reasonnable weight with a good IQ.
EDIT: Make that 400mm f/5.6 PF, now that I've checked the price & weight of the Canon 400mm f/4 DO! ($6469 and still heavier than the 80-400 G.) Although based on the 300mm PF, maybe Nikon can do a lot better than the Canon with both weight & price?
I've found 400mm to be the ideal FL for birding. The ability to add a TC-14E iii to get to 560mm without being a beast would be awesome. Not concerned with flare as I rarely shoot directly towards the sun.
35mm f/1.8G
50mm f/1.4G
50mm f/1.8G
85mm f/1.8G
Nikon has alreadt release the 20mm and 28mm f/1.8 with Nano and fast AF-S motors. I'd like to see them round off their prime catalog with similar features.
NIKON 17-35mm f/2.8 (The constant 2.8 needs to stay! the 16-35mm f/4 just not enough PRO Quality/IC in it)
Would like to see an updated Nikon 58mm f/1.2 Noct-NIKKOR like others have mentioned.
More FX lenses please.... Hate to lose the MP due to "Crop Factor" on D750 & D610 cameras.
Thanks for asking.