Already shoots a 17-35 on a d800...70-200 would be a good compliment. Missing some middle there but it would work for me. But I think pistnbroke has a workflow already down and it might be hard to change this with suggesting other equipment. I do applaud those that can shoot weddings for their profession. It is lots of work and anything to make it easier is probably worth it.
Already shoots a 17-35 on a d800...70-200 would be a good compliment. Missing some middle there but it would work for me. But I think pistnbroke has a workflow already down and it might be hard to change this with suggesting other equipment. I do applaud those that can shoot weddings for their profession. It is lots of work and anything to make it easier is probably worth it.
Anyone carrying around two bodies both with zooms (especially the heavy ones like the 2.8) for a full day needs to treat themselves to good massage the next day!
Anyone carrying around two bodies both with zooms (especially the heavy ones like the 2.8) for a full day needs to treat themselves to good massage the next day!
somewhat off topic my setup used to be D700 plus SB900 with a Black Rapid double and 16 -35 f 4 + 24 -120 f4 with Three Think Tank lens pouches on a Think Tank Belt with a Racing Harness This keeps the load evenly distributed
In a separate large shoulder bag, that I did not carry spare camera ( D400 or similar ) 2 spare flash guns 70 -200 f 2.8 50mm f 1.4 thermos sandwiches
I do understand the flexibility of lenses during a wedding though. I found myself running to the back of the church with my 300 f4 trying to get the kiss picture.
It is funny because it really isn't comparable to any other type of photography. The push to get it right in that one chance. Plus it is so dynamic. Most other photography you have a bit more flexibility with trying new styles or lenses or possibly using a single setup that pretty much encompasses the whole shoot. Weddings really cover about everything difficult to shoot from poor lightning, moving and action shots, landscapes and product shots,.
I am thinking today.....it changes from day to day.... to do a wedding on crop sensor, 24mm f1.4 on one body, 85mm f1.8 on second body...and if one used a full frame....like D800, with the 85mm, this would allow some great cropping freedom. Now, understand I do not shoot weddings but anything I shoot, I am totally in charge of editing and deliver the product....no proofing, I make decisions and finalize the end result.
So, my suggestions are based upon my style, may not be worth anything for someone else.
I was thinking in terms of a person having one DX, one FX body, primarily to reduce costs. If I were to shoot a wedding professionally, I might choose at a minimum, one D4s, one D810, and if possible another Fx for back up. Also, I would have a grip following me everywhere handing equipment like a surgical instrument.
But, this might not be the question. So, if I had a crop sensor body, maybe the wider of the choices would be better.
Well I found/made a target that simulates the low contrast problem ..its a fine focus adjust target..focus grey 35 and I can use the 18-140 on it and get 40 % instant focus ..with the 24-120 f4 ..100% focus hits ..so the 24-120 stays and the 18-140 and 28-300 go to fund 2 x 24-120...It still comes down to the downgrade of the 7100 AF from the 7000 and the 7200 seems no better looking at the spec. D800 with the 18-140 performs perfect on the target so whe have our answer ... paid Nikon for an upgrade and got a downgrade ( 7000-7100 in AF anyway)
I don't think you can conclude, just from the specs, that the D7200 AF will have the same weakness as the D7100.. after all it does improve low light performance by 1 EV. Furthermore, we have the review by CameraStoreTV (not scientific at all) that shows -4ev af capability.
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Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome! Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.
I am sure at -4EV if you focus on a black tie on a white shirt it will focus ..but my brides dont wear black and white ..just white ..
:-) true but at -4 ev I dont think the guests will be able to see the groom ;-) only a floating head .. 8-X
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Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome! Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.
Nice one ..I do agree my problems are in room lighting so you could eat a meal and read a speech... Its all about a good target ...the problem is that the D7100 cental sensor is not backed up with the 8 around it whilst the 4800 system and theD610 D 800 is ...Totally let down byNikon ..upgrade is a downgrade. With 2 of us shooting we have always been able to provide a good selection of photos but its more than a bugger when the dam thing will not release the shutter....
:-) its just I am saying that the 2 ev advantage of the D7200 over the D7000 may at least equalize the weakness of the af sensor.
Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome! Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.
so I spent money to buy a weak sensor ..yes nice good one nikon ..lost the faith ....
lol .. there are so many parameters in the AF systems I am sure upping(downing?) to the -2ev (now -3ev) and af at F8 were higher on the priority list. :-) and like I said we still dont know if the D7200 has improved AF in your "Gray scenario". Although I agree that its likely that it has the same issue (but we don't KNOW).
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Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome! Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.
so I spent money to buy a weak sensor ..yes nice good one nikon ..lost the faith ....
So in retrospect, what do wish you had done? I fully appreciate you do not want to spend money unnecessarily but would a D810 or any thing made by, Sony or Canon solved you problem ? What about the D400? Do you think this mythical beast might have been the answer?
Dont like the D8XX too heavy and bad memory system and 28-300 is the only wedding lens...?? 24 MP DX is fine for quality and heavy cropping ..maybe should send lens to nikon ..??? Every time I look at Canon spec I go no no no ..dont even like the position of the on/off switch !!1
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my setup used to be
D700 plus SB900 with a Black Rapid double and 16 -35 f 4 + 24 -120 f4 with Three Think Tank lens pouches on a Think Tank Belt with a Racing Harness
This keeps the load evenly distributed
In a separate large shoulder bag, that I did not carry
spare camera ( D400 or similar )
2 spare flash guns
70 -200 f 2.8
50mm f 1.4
thermos
sandwiches
It is funny because it really isn't comparable to any other type of photography. The push to get it right in that one chance. Plus it is so dynamic. Most other photography you have a bit more flexibility with trying new styles or lenses or possibly using a single setup that pretty much encompasses the whole shoot. Weddings really cover about everything difficult to shoot from poor lightning, moving and action shots, landscapes and product shots,.
So, my suggestions are based upon my style, may not be worth anything for someone else.
Shooting Fx and and cropping in post would give you a lot more flexibility
To anyone new to weddings. They are not the place for experimentation. Use a camera, lens, lighting combination(s) you totally familial with
But, this might not be the question. So, if I had a crop sensor body, maybe the wider of the choices would be better.
Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.
Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.
Its all about a good target ...the problem is that the D7100 cental sensor is not backed up with the 8 around it whilst the 4800 system and theD610 D 800 is ...Totally let down byNikon ..upgrade is a downgrade. With 2 of us shooting we have always been able to provide a good selection of photos but its more than a bugger when the dam thing will not release the shutter....
Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.
Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.
I fully appreciate you do not want to spend money unnecessarily but would a D810 or any thing made by, Sony or Canon solved you problem ?
What about the D400? Do you think this mythical beast might have been the answer?
24 MP DX is fine for quality and heavy cropping ..maybe should send lens to nikon ..???
Every time I look at Canon spec I go no no no ..dont even like the position of the on/off switch !!1