70-200 2.8E

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  • Rx4PhotoRx4Photo Posts: 1,200Member
    After pretending that the focus ring was the zoom ring on my 70-200 VR2 I find that the lens actually sits more solidly into my left hand when holding it. I actually feel even more in control of the body of the lens.
    So perhaps there was a more significant reason Nikon decided to swap these rings but I feel sure that ergonomics played into the decision. Those of you with this lens should try it. You'll feel more contact with the lens (and control) when "zooming" with the focus ring.
    D800 | D7000 | Nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8 | 24-70mm f/2.8 | 70-200mm f/2.8 | 35mm f/1.8G | 85mm f/1.4G | Sigma 35mm f/1.4 Art | Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art | Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM | Zeiss 100mm Makro-Planar ZF.2 | Flash controllers: Phottix Odin TTL

  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member

    Perhaps reversing the focus and zoom rings let them fix the focus breathing problem??

    Ducking and running for the exit.

    Denver Shooter

    NSXTypeR said:

    Can anyone speculate on Nikon's reason for switching the zoom and focus rings?

    They normally don't do that willy nilly.

    Guys, I would really like to understand this move. I would be one of the first to throw bricks at Nikon about switching the two collars. NSXTypeR....you hit the nail..."they normally don't do that willy nilly".

    You would think that Nikon would come out and say why they changed it. You two have asked the Million Dollar Question.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • Vipmediastar_JZVipmediastar_JZ Posts: 1,708Member
    I was shooting the 300mmf4 today. I tend to hold my lens by default at the front of the lens then remember to try to hold it near the camera for better support. I do the same with the 70-200f4.
  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    From the horses... er mouth:

    http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/camera-lenses/af-s-nikkor-70-200mm-f%2f2.8e-fl-ed-vr.html

    Enhanced handling
    Innovative controls and design for working pros
    The AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8E FL ED VR has four focus function buttons right on the lens barrel, perfect for engaging autofocus or AF Lock. The zoom and focus rings have reversed positions for more comfortable, stable zooming. Its magnesium alloy barrel, High Refractive Index (HRI) lens element and lightweight Fluorite (Fl) element located near the front of the optical group keep the lens evenly balanced. The tripod collar ring spins on ball bearings for smooth transitions between horizontal and vertical shooting.
  • BabaGanoushBabaGanoush Posts: 252Member
    I prefer the zoom ring to be at the base of the lens, close to the camera body, where I can work it with my finger tips. If it's at the front of the lens, there's a higher chance I'd end up pulling the lens sideways as I adjusted the zoom. I suppose I could get used to the change with practice, but when I simulated how this would all work using my VR II lens, it was a struggle.
  • Rx4PhotoRx4Photo Posts: 1,200Member
    Thanks Ironheart for finding Nikon's way of saying what I was thinking
    D800 | D7000 | Nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8 | 24-70mm f/2.8 | 70-200mm f/2.8 | 35mm f/1.8G | 85mm f/1.4G | Sigma 35mm f/1.4 Art | Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art | Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM | Zeiss 100mm Makro-Planar ZF.2 | Flash controllers: Phottix Odin TTL

  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    So the Nikon justification is....The zoom and focus rings have reversed positions for more comfortable, stable zooming.
    Interesting. I have not had an issue with my VR model for balancing and shooting that lens.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • framerframer Posts: 491Member
    Let me chime in with a something I read somewhere but can't find it to quote it. They reversed the rings because it solved an internal problem to save weight, money and make a better optical formula in the process. I heard or read it somewhere weeks ago.

    framer
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    framer said:

    Let me chime in with a something I read somewhere but can't find it to quote it. They reversed the rings because it solved an internal problem to save weight, money and make a better optical formula in the process. I heard or read it somewhere weeks ago.

    framer

    If that is demonstrated/confirmed in the lab test people will open their wallets for that lens. Looking forward to seeing the test results.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,192Member
    :D
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    Here is the link to the partial review by KR of the new 70-200 FL. If you drill down you will find the comparison tables which KR does well. Much to my surprise, he likes the new lens.

    http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/70-200mm-f28-fl.htm
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    Lets keep posting reviews of this lens. I may be interested in Q1 or Q2 next year if the price drops $200. Thanks Vipmedistar for the link.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    Wow...the new 70-200 FL E lens is terrific. Love the feel in the hands and the zoom collar is really nicely positioned. With the heal of the hand under the shoe your fingers fall on the zoom collar. It's also easy to focus.

    What I liked was the ultra smooth zoom collar and the smooth ball bearing support for rotating the foot collar. I just wanted to see what the lens looked like and now my mind is trying to figure out how to I pay for it.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,745Member
    Thom thinks this lens is a real winner, except door the change in zoom position.
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    After three trips to two different camera stores I have determined for me that the switch between zoom collar and focus collar is not an issue.

    Tomorrow I meet a fellow Nikon user who is buying my Nikon 70-200 VR. I have ordered the RRS LCF-11 for the new 70-200E lens. Looks like I will be ordering the new lens on Friday.

    I was stunned this morning when I discovered that B&H is now offering the 4% Reward points for this lens. Checked Adorama and they are selling it with a lot of free stuff that I don't need. I have an extra used 77mm UV filter to put on the lens and in 45+ days I will use that 4% money to almost buy a Hoya or B+W UV filter. It looks like the moon has aligned in my favor. :#

    Anyone care to share their experience with the new 70-200 f/2.8E lens? I'll be using it on the two bodies listed in my signature line.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    Got the RRS replacement foot on Wednesday and the lens on Thursday. Dropped a filter on the lens and changed the foot and read the instructions. Took about 25 pictures. Really really like the faster focus and the lens buttons to initiate focus.

    Can't wait to get out of the house and take some pictures. I like it. If your on the fence, don't be. I decided to not sell on eBay and saved almost $200 in fees. It took only 9 days on Craig's List. So go for it if you have the original version like I did or if you have the VRII version.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • SnowleopardSnowleopard Posts: 244Member
    Possibly to auto focus rigs for video work.
    ||COOLPIX 5000|●|D70|●|D700|●|D810|●|AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED|●|AF Nikkor 20mm f/2.8D|●|AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D|●|AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.4G|●|AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f/2.8D|●|AF-S Micro Nikkor 60mm f/2.8G ED|●|AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G IF-ED (Silver)|●|AF-S Teleconverter TC-20E III|●|PB-6 Bellows|●|EL-NIKKOR 50mm f/2.8||
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    Last night shot a whole series of shots with the new lens at our grand daughters play. The lens is fantastic. The auto focus is unreal but you all know that. In practical use it's lights out better than my generation 1 70-200. Tonight will look at the image quality at ISO 4500 to 12000.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
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