Nikon Teleconverter and Nikon 105mm micro lens

santoshrautsantoshraut Posts: 1Member
Hello,

I am beginner in photography. I need help in below doubts :

1) Which teleconverter (14EII, 14EIII, 17EII, 20EII or 20EIII) will be best / suitable for Nikon Micro 105mm Lens ?

2) If i connect Nikon Teleconverter 14e-iii (magnification is 1.4x), to my Nikon 105mm micro lens which having native magnification of 1x, then how much total / final magnification will i get ?

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  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 2,256Member
    You will get 1.4. I assume that you are talking about the reproduction ratio. This is one of the often overlooked benefits of a teleconverter.

    More magnification is a tradeoff against image quality. Only you can assess that tradeoff.

    I would go with the newest model.
  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 2,256Member
    But since you are a beginner, I would not buy the teleconverter until you are sufficiently experienced in the use of a macro lens.
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 3,474Member
    The TC14E or TC14-E II (the 14E III is not compatible) are the only ones that will work with the 105mm VR macro, the others won't mount without damaging the rear element.

    I use the 14E with the 105 and it works well enough, since the lens is very sharp. Just be prepared for weaker AF. Not a big deal for macro which would be manually focused most of the time anyway.
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 2,256Member
    edited October 12
    The III is incompatible? I would not have thought that. That means you are looking on the used market for a II. Thanks for catching that.
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  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 3,474Member
    edited October 12
    Just double checked Nikon's site. The III will mount, but AF is not functional. Some stores I checked still list the II as avaliable new, BTW.
    Post edited by PB_PM on
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 5,298Moderator
    @santoshraut: What are you photographing? What lighting are you using?
    Always learning.
  • DJBee49DJBee49 Posts: 123Member
    PB_PM said- The TC14E or TC14-E II (the 14E III is not compatible) are the only ones that will work with the 105mm VR macro, the others won't mount without damaging the rear element.

    For the record, this is not correct, although I cannot speak for the TC1.4 III. All three of the TCs (1.4II, 1.7II and 2.0III) mount without conflict onto the AF-S Micro Nikkor 105mmm 2.8G ED (I presume that this is the lens in discussion). On the D500 and D810, they also allow full AF. Nikon's data sheet for the TC II series and the TC2.0 III says that AF will not function but I presume that this is out of date when using the later bodies because AF works fine with all of them!

    I have used the 105 f2.8 with 1.7 and 2.0 TCs in an 'emergency' at a concert where no other long lens was available and was not impressed with the result. It works well with the 1.4 though and helpfully gets you a little further away from nervous subjects while retaining good sharpness.
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 3,474Member
    edited October 12
    The data sheet for the 105 macro predates F8 focus that the modern bodies support, since it is one of the early AF-S lenses (released in 2006) so that data being out of date seems likely.
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    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • DJBee49DJBee49 Posts: 123Member
    I am sure that is true but of course the data sheet clearly also says that each of the TCs is suitable for the 105 Micro (as Nikon insists on calling it!). Even the 2.0TC will not get to f8 as its maximum aperture though (this would be f5.6), so this should not be an impediment anyway.
    I will try the TCs and 105 on a couple of older bodies and see how they do in terms of AF but there is certainly not a physical problem in terms of fitting any of the TCs to the lens, even if the optical performance of the 1.7 and 2.0 leaves something to be desired!
  • Vipmediastar_JZVipmediastar_JZ Posts: 1,639Member
    edited October 12
    This is something new I learned. I thought extension tubes was the way to go but if you can use TC for this and have a telephoto lens and plan on using a TC this would be the better deal.
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  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 3,474Member

    This is something new I learned. I thought extension tubes was the way to go but if you can use TC for this and have a telephoto lens and plan on using a TC this would be the better deal.

    The TC won't turn a telephoto into a macro. Also unlike extension tubes you cannot stack TCs.
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • Vipmediastar_JZVipmediastar_JZ Posts: 1,639Member
    I meant if you want to use a TC for macro with the 105 2.8 you can and if you want to use the same TC for your telephoto you can as well. So the best decision is to buy the TC. Unless you want to stack then get the extension tubes.
  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 1,786Member
    Could you possibly stack extension tubes and a TC?
    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 5,298Moderator
    I would think you would have to put the tubes on the body and the TC on the lens, but then I can't see why not. IQ may be badly affected, but otherwise, I'd guess yes.
    Always learning.
  • DJBee49DJBee49 Posts: 123Member
    edited October 15
    There is no reason that you cannot put extension tubes and a TC on this or any other compatible lens. Several times I have shot a 300mm f2.8 with an extension tube and a TC 1.4 or TC2.0. I believe that you can stack TCs but the IQ would be terrible I would imagine.

    I am not sure if there is a misunderstanding about the distinction between TCs and extension tubes but........ the TCs will increase the effective focal length of the lens whilst the extension tube will merely allow the lens to focus more closely.

    For instance, a 300mm lens with a 2.0TC attached will produce a lens with an effective focal length (and the accompanying angle of view) of a 600mm lens. Attaching an extension tube (or tubes) merely allows the combination to focus closer. Both the TC and the extension tube have a brightness hit but if using in camera metering, the meter will measure this for you. For example, with the 2.0 TC, that effectively doubles the focal length, you will need to increase the exposure by two stops.The further away the lens is from the sensor (which is what an extension tube, or bellows do), the lower the brightness of the image at the sensor.

    Apologies if everyone already knew all that!
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  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 3,474Member
    DJBee49 said:

    I believe that you can stack TCs but the IQ would be terrible I would imagine.

    Yeah, you can stack them, but it's kind of crazy. Depending on the lens, or the TC's themselves, AF may not function.
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
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