For beginners who find this thread and are wondering about cropping portraits, I found this diagram the other day and thought it would have been useful to me when I was starting portrait post production.
For my money, I thought the shot in color was excellent. The black and white was a little puzzling to me; felt a little like the Blair Witch Project. That said, I went to your FB page and thought some of the boxing photos were really quite good. One man's pov, I guess.
I've learned that photographing people, who are not experienced models yet are posing, by yourself, using flash and/or modifiers, in public, did I mention by yourself, is a hefty task. They're self conscious about every look while you/us/the photographer is/are trying to get it as right in camera as possible. My hat's off to those who can pull it off as I've tried several times and know that I need more experience than I initially thought. I too think the color photo was excellent. The B&W was also exposed to my liking. Only her look could have been a bit different. Overall good work aquarian_light. I enjoy portrait photography - find it a challenge actually - but only wish I had a willing subject every time I wanted to go out and try some things.
I did one shoot where one of the models was more experienced and fully engaged and soon we got into a zone where she just went for it and I shot. Piece of cake. The other model was inexperienced and self-conscious so needed lots of direction. The shooting lost rhythm and got awkward which was partly my inexperience showing too.
If you are a beginner at model shoots, shell out for a good model as she will help you get the shots more than a beginner. But if you are stuck with a paying client who fits into the second scenario, its difficult!
Thanks for the comments guys It was remarkably tough! I took near 400 pictures in 2.5 hours and I got 2 I really liked, and 10 I was willing to give to the client! lol
Working with "models" or any human subject......not easy. My technique is to sit down away from the camera and discuss what we are going to do. Explore other photo experiences with the model. Discuss the concept of the fact that the camera does nothing. Shoot the camera/flash with no model and demonstrate no harm has occurred.
In some instances the model may have had a negative photo experience, yet may not be able to tell you this. Emphasize the final idea is to demonstrate and athletic look in this situation and discuss how to not make it look too "sexy". All of these can decrease the anxieties in some situations. Ask the model what he/she would like to have emphasized.
I usually will discuss situations rather than give directions to an amateur model. An amateur will respond with smile, frown, seduction, or whatever on the face as the subject is suggested. But use discretion. Pros can follow minimal direction..and generally if one has worked with them before they will almost do the job for us. Amateurs are usually so intent on pleasing the photog it becomes a difficult task to get the results unless this is recognized. I find the main idea I want to communicate to my model is my respect for her and also the idea we are working on something together as peers.
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Which image are you talking about with the light falloff? the first black and white posted here?
Link to Diagram
Crop on green, avoid red.
It can get much more complicated but this is a great simple start.
... And no time to use them.
I did one shoot where one of the models was more experienced and fully engaged and soon we got into a zone where she just went for it and I shot. Piece of cake. The other model was inexperienced and self-conscious so needed lots of direction. The shooting lost rhythm and got awkward which was partly my inexperience showing too.
If you are a beginner at model shoots, shell out for a good model as she will help you get the shots more than a beginner. But if you are stuck with a paying client who fits into the second scenario, its difficult!
It was remarkably tough! I took near 400 pictures in 2.5 hours and I got 2 I really liked, and 10 I was willing to give to the client! lol
@aquarian_light The second full color, full length shot with the light falling off at the bottom of the feet.
Again, I should think your clients should be happy with the work! :-)
My best,
Mike
In some instances the model may have had a negative photo experience, yet may not be able to tell you this. Emphasize the final idea is to demonstrate and athletic look in this situation and discuss how to not make it look too "sexy". All of these can decrease the anxieties in some situations. Ask the model what he/she would like to have emphasized.
I usually will discuss situations rather than give directions to an amateur model. An amateur will respond with smile, frown, seduction, or whatever on the face as the subject is suggested. But use discretion. Pros can follow minimal direction..and generally if one has worked with them before they will almost do the job for us. Amateurs are usually so intent on pleasing the photog it becomes a difficult task to get the results unless this is recognized. I find the main idea I want to communicate to my model is my respect for her and also the idea we are working on something together as peers.