True @ade, but imagine their overall ratings if they had the iso performance of a D3s....
I guess my point is that its wrong to throw out DXOs entire analysis because one particular camera gets an ordinary overall score, there are other sub ratings given for a reason :-)
I think a key point is that when sensors were going from 3mp to 6, then to 10 /12 mp, and struggled at ISO 200, sensor differences were important to overall IQ. At 3 or 6mp it was hard to see the difference between a lens that was very good and one that was outstanding. Bad always looked bad.
Today, when all new sensors are between 16 and 36 mp and the question is whether ISO 1600 or 3200 or 6400 (or more) look clean, it matters much less for most situations not at the edge of requirements.
Certainly 90% of my photos are taken at ISO 800 or less and 80 % at ISO 400 or less. It is only because I am the photographer for a large and busy regional theater, who only want stage light shooting, that even 10% are above ISO 800.
Speed, Lens quality, accurate focus and exposure, matter more to ultimate photo quality than the sensor used, for most people most of the time.
There are still situations where the state of the art is not good enough and approaching it more closely will make a difference.
In those edge situations, very few have the craft and skill to exploit even the best equipment, or to demonstrate the difference between the best, and almost best.
Regards ... Harold
D810, D3x, 14-24/2.8, 50/1.4D, 24-70/2.8, 24-120/4 VR, 70-200/2.8 VR1, 80-400 G, 200-400/4 VR1, 400/2.8 ED VR G, 105/2 DC, 17-55/2.8. Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.
Interesting rate. Out of curiosity I checked mine and it was slightly more than 50% with ISO 800 or higher. I always had a kind of prejudice, Leica is for reporters, hidden snapshots and portraits in dark and difficult light. Either way, I won't buy one.
Interesting rate. Out of curiosity I checked mine and it was slightly more than 50% with ISO 800 or higher. I always had a kind of prejudice, Leica is for reporters, hidden snapshots and portraits in dark and difficult light. Either way, I won't buy one.
Based on your usage, Leica would be a poor choice for you. Regards ... H
D810, D3x, 14-24/2.8, 50/1.4D, 24-70/2.8, 24-120/4 VR, 70-200/2.8 VR1, 80-400 G, 200-400/4 VR1, 400/2.8 ED VR G, 105/2 DC, 17-55/2.8. Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.
Always a great moment when realizing how much money I just saved And to spare the trouble of removing the bottom plate just to change the SD card. No, I don't think I'd be happy with a Leica but those who are will have their reasons, too.
And I don't think, DxO tests are more than an orientation of what to expect from a sensor. At least, it's the picture what amazes me, not the sensor.
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I guess my point is that its wrong to throw out DXOs entire analysis because one particular camera gets an ordinary overall score, there are other sub ratings given for a reason :-)
Today, when all new sensors are between 16 and 36 mp and the question is whether ISO 1600 or 3200 or 6400 (or more) look clean, it matters much less for most situations not at the edge of requirements.
Certainly 90% of my photos are taken at ISO 800 or less and 80 % at ISO 400 or less. It is only because I am the photographer for a large and busy regional theater, who only want stage light shooting, that even 10% are above ISO 800.
Speed, Lens quality, accurate focus and exposure, matter more to ultimate photo quality than the sensor used, for most people most of the time.
There are still situations where the state of the art is not good enough and approaching it more closely will make a difference.
In those edge situations, very few have the craft and skill to exploit even the best equipment, or to demonstrate the difference between the best, and almost best.
Regards ... Harold
Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.
Regards ... H
Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.
And I don't think, DxO tests are more than an orientation of what to expect from a sensor. At least, it's the picture what amazes me, not the sensor.