Ok so here it goes (please bear with me ^_^). I have about 5000 euro's to spend on my next camera (for reference purposes the D4 costs 5000 Euro's here). I'm doubting which way to go. What would you do if you were a nature photographer (all subjects):
Options (don't suggest any other camera's please
1. D800 + Nikon grip + 24-70mm (for landscape) (no D4 battery)
2. Nikon D4
Don't mind the prices of both.. plays no role here.
I want to use it for the following (I'm a nature/wild life photographer):
- General landscape stuff (24mm is good for me, will buy wider later on).
- general wildlife
I currently own a D300. What I need right now (for the new Spring/Summer seasons) is a D400, but hey, that's nowhere to be seen. I need a PRO type body as I often need to change settings quickly and the camera will come into contact with snow, dirt etc. More pixels (cropping room), better noise handling, and large enough buffer are essential. AF of D300 is ok but want something snappier..
- Nikon 500mm F4 VR
- Nikon 300mm F4
- Sigma 150mm macro
- Nikon 85mm F1.8
- 2 wide angle DX lenses.
D7100 is no option for me. I'm not blown away by its noise handling and especially the lack of a good buffer. Hoping a (possible) D400 would solve this for me.
I'm leaning towards D800 + lens because I still believe Nikon will come with a D400 which I will buy when it arrives. 16 MP D4 is awesome but seeing that I often need the extra DX range is not enough to put my D300 aside for most of the time. 16MP DX would be fine though. The D800 would give me the needed cropping space.. What would you do?
Has anyone been in the same position as I am right now?
Thanks for your thoughts!!
1) Your need to be able to shoot in bad lighting conditions (high ISO key) (D4)
2) If you need rapid fire shooting style (D4)
3) Amount of resolution. (D800)
The D800 has the resolution but a small buffer (same size as the D4 but the files are twice the size) which is better suited for General landscape and macro and quite a bit of wildlife. Birding (if capturing in flight) would be a change from your D300 and you would notice the slower FPS but with use it is not a huge hang up but the D4 would be better here.
I moved from a D300 to the D800 and absolutely love it. The only thing that has changed my shooting style is the FPS as it is slower and you have to pick your moments more. After you get use to it, it isn't that big of a deal to get use too. The trade-off of additional resolution to crop has more than made that up for me. But I don't shoot fast moving wildlife all the time. If I did, the D4 certainly comes into the picture.
So in the end, I will use the D300 and D800 side by side and switch depending on the desired characteristics. I think I just answered by initial post for myself here . Thanks for contributing to the thought process .
Both cameras offer incredible opportunities to take superb images to suit different styles of photography
The D3/4 when put together with a lens is a lot heaver than what you are used to, something else to consider
I would try each camera out for a week and see which one meets your criteria
I use a D3X so I decided to wait for the next generation
i wish you luck in your choice , but i think only you can make it.
if you do not need high ISO or fps then I think I would go for a D800
I do not think the difference in resolution of D800 to D4 will be noticeable until very large prints are made.
Lanscapes may be better on the D800 as there is more information for color. Macro can need high ISO, so the D4 is possibly better here.
Now, one idea might be to get a D800 plus a new lens....
D800 at 4 fps (5 in DX mode, 6 DX with grip) is plenty fast enough for anything but pro sports. The fastest flash cards you can get will help with buffering.
My normal 'kit' for birding (mostly eagles) is D800 w/ 200-400 f4 where the bottom function button is programmed to switch between FX and DX mode.
I have often found that the DX finder on the D800 which lets me see outside the frame is also helpful, particularly for fast moving wildlife.
I am considering a D4, but for theater shooting where my lenses fill the frame, 16mp is plenty, and I often am not allowed to augment the stage lighting.
I hope this helps .... H
Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.
The resolution allows for large prints or a lot of cropping.
The dynamic range of the sensor is unsurpassed.
And the high iso performance is also quite good
I would definately suggest the D800 unless you need:
- the 10 frames per second
- extreme high iso
Then you need the D4.
24mm on either is not bad, but not the greatest either. I have a Tokina 16-28 f2.8 for my UWA and love it. At f4 it is just as sharp as the Nikkor 14-24 and has almost no distortion.
B&H has a sale where the 24-120vr is just under $1,000 and the Tokina 16-28 is around $780. Put together you have the whole range covered for just about the same price as the 24-70.