Tamron Primes - 35mm and 45mm VC.

heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
edited August 2015 in Other Manufacturers
I am rather patient and I have been searching and waiting for a 40mm prime for what seems like forever.. I was just about to give up and just about to grab a 35 18G dx and use it as an "optical zoom" 35-40mm :-) BUT Now .. the new 35 and 45mm tamron primes with VC !! I am sold !!

I think I will be getting the 35mm .. bec I recently realized that in fact the FX sensor size is slightly smaller than the old Film frame so a 35 will be almost exactly what I want a 40mm to be ! this would be my "Normal" and my lowlight lense .. its perfect !! when I traveled there were many many times I couldn't take the pictures i wanted bec I was not allowed a tripod in a very dim place. This will be the perfect lense for it .. !!
Post edited by heartyfisher on
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  • esquiloesquilo Posts: 71Member
    It's about bloody time someone released a decent 45 mm prime for Nikon! The diagonal of the FX-sensor is 42 mm so a 50 mm lens is just a bit too long to be a decent prime. This Tamron looks really promising. I think it's the first time I see stabilizer in a f/1.8 lens.
    Nikon D7100 with Sigma 10-20 mm, Nikon 16-85 mm, Nikon 70-300 mm, Sigma 150-500 mm, Nikon 28 mm f/1.8G and Nikon 50 mm f/1.8G.
    Nikon1 J3 with 10-30 mm and 10 mm f/2.8
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,004Member
    I'll get excited if the performance is good, and they are less expensive than similar Nikkors.
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
    edited August 2015
    I'll get excited if the performance is good, and they are less expensive than similar Nikkors.
    Dont think it will be winning any sharpness awards .. I would be very happy if it equals the 35 DX 1.8 .. Its main awesomeness would be its Low light functionality F1.8 + 2-3 stop of VC !! Makes it the best Lowlight lense.

    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • CoastalconnCoastalconn Posts: 527Member
    @heartyfisher I am hopeful these will actually be uber sharp lenses. There was a rumor a while back when the 15-30 came out that Tamron was working on 2 primes that could resolve the 42+ MP of the Sony.. http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-new-tamron-prime-lenses-will-resolve-the-new-close-to-50-megapixel-sony-ff-sensor/

    This is a focal length I don't use with my birds, but if the price is right I might actually pick one up to play with...
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
    Uber sharp with VC .. Sounds painfully expensive :-)
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 4,582Member
    I spent over 60 minutes with the Regional Tamron Sales representative and a factory tech support guy and they have no idea on arrival of the 35mm lens. They confirmed that the rumor is true.

    I like Tamron lens and what I found it interesting while eating lunch with them two people brought their Tamron lens to the traveling show and they both had mechanical issues with their lens. In addition I was playing with the 15-30 F2.8 FX lens and took it off their D700 and told him there was some thing wrong with the lens - the manual focus was extremely stiff. He checked the lens and said it must have been dropped and replaced it on the display table for people to use.

    This really surprised me since I have never heard of anyone having issues with Tamron lens.

    The other piece of news that almost cost me some money, the local dealer has 4 Tamron 150-600mm lens in stock. At the show, they were giving out $95 rebates on this lens. $70 discount for USA buyers and $25 off for anyone buying today.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
    edited September 2015
    :-) 190 off :-) lol costs money to save .. :-)
    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 4,582Member
    Yea it's true. The sad point is that money is not budgeted until 2016 and now with Nikon releasing a new telephoto, I have time to assess both lens.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • CoastalconnCoastalconn Posts: 527Member
    Seems like these new Tamron's might win some sharpness awards after all.. Pretty surprised they are weather sealed as well.. Seems like they are made to compete.. Wish the price point was a touch lower but time will tell..
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
    edited September 2015
    The MTF for the 35 is totally awesome for DX. For FX ... will have too see if the edge drop off is bad when the reviews get published .... However, looks like it may be best value SHARP "Normal" for high MP DX shooters !! the close-up capability would be nice for hands and rings and other details where you want the back ground blurred.. will definitely keep an eye on this one :-)
    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 4,582Member
    Seems like these new Tamron's might win some sharpness awards after all.. Pretty surprised they are weather sealed as well.. Seems like they are made to compete.. Wish the price point was a touch lower but time will tell..
    Typically after the introduction of a new lens it gets added to the list of lens eligible for rebates. They must run 4 to 6 rebates per year. The 150-600mm lens was on the market for 15-18 months and it's now eligible for a rebate.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
    edited September 2015
    Its got fluoride coating on the front element too .. especially good for those who dont use "protective" filters :-)
    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 2,083Member
    45mm is an odd focal length to use. Why did they do that?
    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
  • haroldpharoldp Posts: 984Member
    45mm is actually the calculated 'normal' (based on image diagonal) FL for 35mm.

    SLR's started at 58mm, and thn 50mm because non retrofocus lenses (like 45mm) could not clear a 35mm mirror and retrofocus designs were more expensive.

    'Real' cameras were made of wood.

    ... H
    D810, D3x, 14-24/2.8, 50/1.4D, 24-70/2.8, 24-120/4 VR, 70-200/2.8 VR1, 80-400 G, 200-400/4 VR1, 400/2.8 ED VR G, 105/2 DC, 17-55/2.8.
    Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.

  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,004Member
    edited September 2015
    ...45mm is actually the calculated 'normal'...
    Correction, 43mm is calculated to be 'normal' on a 35mm frame, but manufactures thought 45mm looked less odd for marketing purposes. Of course 50mm became normal because it looked better, and was cheaper to make.
    Post edited by PB_PM on
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • moreorlessmoreorless Posts: 120Member
    The 35mm is certainly tempting if the performance is good, I can live with some boarder softeness at larger apertures as long as its sharp across the frame by F/5.6.

    If that performance is there it looks like it could be a good all rounder, 1:2.5 is pretty good for flower/fungi macro and honestly anything more probably wouldn't be very useable on a 35mm anyway with the working distance.
  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,042Member
    ...45mm is actually the calculated 'normal'...
    Correction, 43mm is calculated to be 'normal' on a 35mm frame, but manufactures thought 45mm looked less odd for marketing purposes. Of course 50mm became normal because it looked better, and was cheaper to make.
    I imagine that with focus breathing, a 45 is sometimes a 43. Practically there is no difference.


    Why do you think a 50 is cheaper to make than a 40something?
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,004Member
    edited September 2015

    Why do you think a 50 is cheaper to make than a 40something?
    Apparently anything wider than 50mm is more expensive to make. Simply look at the price retail price of the Nikon 50mm F1.8 AIS vs the 45mm F2.8 AI-S P (when both were available new). Other manufactures also made 45mm lenses, and they were always more expensive than 50mm F1.8's. Does that answer the question?
    Post edited by PB_PM on
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • haroldpharoldp Posts: 984Member
    A 40 something (+ or - a silly millimeter or two) require a more extreme retrofocus design for the rear element to clear the mirror on a 35mm SLR.

    For decent correction, it will have to be a more complex design, and be bigger and heavier and thus costlier.

    Look at a Leica 35/2 summicron for rangefinder cameras, it is 1/3 the size / weight of equivalent 35 SLR designs, and sharper as well.

    The reason mirrorless cameras like Sony A7 or Fuji's can adapt to RF lenses is that they have no mirror to clear.

    Even a 50mm for SLR is slightly retrofocus, A symmetrical double gauss design (Zeiss planar, Leica summicron etc.) to naturally clear the mirror would typically be 58mm, though some 55's do.

    The move to mirrorless will enable a new generation of compact, less expensive, and sharper wide angle lenses.

    RF cameras could provide the compact and sharp, but the mechanical precision needed to couple to a rangefinder made these lenses very expensive. The closed loop focus mirrorless solves this problem.

    Regards ... H
    D810, D3x, 14-24/2.8, 50/1.4D, 24-70/2.8, 24-120/4 VR, 70-200/2.8 VR1, 80-400 G, 200-400/4 VR1, 400/2.8 ED VR G, 105/2 DC, 17-55/2.8.
    Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.

  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,042Member
    A 40 something (+ or - a silly millimeter or two) require a more extreme retrofocus design for the rear element to clear the mirror on a 35mm SLR.

    For decent correction, it will have to be a more complex design, and be bigger and heavier and thus costlier.

    Look at a Leica 35/2 summicron for rangefinder cameras, it is 1/3 the size / weight of equivalent 35 SLR designs, and sharper as well.

    The reason mirrorless cameras like Sony A7 or Fuji's can adapt to RF lenses is that they have no mirror to clear.

    Even a 50mm for SLR is slightly retrofocus, A symmetrical double gauss design (Zeiss planar, Leica summicron etc.) to naturally clear the mirror would typically be 58mm, though some 55's do.

    The move to mirrorless will enable a new generation of compact, less expensive, and sharper wide angle lenses.

    RF cameras could provide the compact and sharp, but the mechanical precision needed to couple to a rangefinder made these lenses very expensive. The closed loop focus mirrorless solves this problem.

    Regards ... H
    This answers my question by getting to the real engineering and design reason. Thanks.
  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,042Member
    edited September 2015

    Why do you think a 50 is cheaper to make than a 40something?
    Apparently anything wider than 50mm is more expensive to make. Simply look at the price retail price of the Nikon 50mm F1.8 AIS vs the 45mm F2.8 AI-S P (when both were available new). Other manufactures also made 45mm lenses, and they were always more expensive than 50mm F1.8's. Does that answer the question?
    Not quite. That is the symptom, not the cause. I appreciate the effort though.
    Post edited by WestEndFoto on
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