D7500 backward step ?:

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  • PistnbrokePistnbroke Posts: 1,847Member
    Lets look at the royal wedding group photo and ignore all the basic errors the non wedding photographer made ..he took it with a D5...wrong camera ... say we want a crop of a couple of kids ...not going to happen ..not enough MP ..POI and all that
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,006Member
    edited May 2018

    Why would you want to buy a 24 mp D750 when there are cameras with more MP available?

    I have a D810 and a D750, and both cameras fit different needs. We’ve been over this megapixel obsession of yours a million times, so I won’t waste more going over it again. Not everyone shoots the way you do, get over it.
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    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • mhedgesmhedges Posts: 1,254Member

    mhedges said:

    Along those lines I need an intervention because I am sorely tempted by all the incentives on the D750

    I know whereof you speak. I've looked longingly at the 750 as the deals on it have become more and more tantalizing. My intervention is the D610 sitting on my desk. It takes incredibly good images and I simply do not think a D750 would make me a more skilled photographer. But, man o man are the deals on the D750 mouthwatering.

    I can't agree with the last point you made there Pistnbroke. The D750 I had was a soooperb camera. In fact, for landscape/portrait type (undemanding subject) type photography it is all 99% of photographers need. D850 has not changed my mind. In fact, for really low light, it is better that the D850. The supposed BSI sensor just hasn't lived up to the hype in my experience. IMHO of course.

    You folks aren't helping! :D

    Honestly I can't say I expect I will get that much better image quality with the 750 than I get with my 5500 , all things being equal. What I'm hoping to get is better AF, especially in low light. I do lose a fair amount of shots to poor focus. Of course that may be more my fault than the cameras.
  • sportsport Posts: 106Member
    You will be surprised at the difference between the d5500 and d750. Try one see what you think. One thing that I did have to get used when I went from a d5200 was how narrow DOF got. For all of the knocking on the d750, there are some of us owners that really like it. It's been a great camera for me and has been a great stepping stone to full frame.

    As far as higher resolution is concerned, there is a place for it. But keep in mind there are two things you have to be aware of. More resolution means larger file size which means more CPU needed to edit images. Second, your photo technique skills have to be spot on. Where lower resolution cameras are forgiving, higher resolution cameras are not.
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 4,605Member

    I can't agree with the last point you made there Pistnbroke. The D750 I had was a soooperb camera. In fact, for landscape/portrait type (undemanding subject) type photography it is all 99% of photographers need. D850 has not changed my mind. In fact, for really low light, it is better that the D850. The supposed BSI sensor just hasn't lived up to the hype in my experience. IMHO of course.

    Very interesting, thanks for sharing spraynpray.
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  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 2,093Member
    PB_PM said:

    We were talking about auto ISO, not U1/U2, which I use those types of settings for already.

    Just a quick side note, can you override Auto ISO and set a desired ISO or is it "locked" to auto? Just a quick question for someone with a D7000 and no experience with newer bodies/feature sets.
    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
  • tc88tc88 Posts: 344Member
    NSXTypeR said:


    Just a quick side note, can you override Auto ISO and set a desired ISO or is it "locked" to auto? Just a quick question for someone with a D7000 and no experience with newer bodies/feature sets.

    You can still set the ISO which I believe will then serve as the minimum ISO in the auto ISO mode.
  • Capt_SpauldingCapt_Spaulding Posts: 497Member
    edited June 2018
    NSX: If you're using auto ISO you set a base and a max ISO the camera can use. The camera will attempt to maintain the lowest ISO possible consistent with the other points of the exposure triangle.

    Then you can select a minimum shutter speed. You can set it manually or you can ask the camera to do that for you as well. If you choose "Auto" the camera seems to default to the traditional 1/focal length=shutter speed rule of thumb.

    You can, however, ask the camera to alter that "al gore rhythm" by right pressing on the control wheel while the auto mode is highlighted. That will take you to another menu which contains a slider with an index mark in the center and two hash marks on the left marked "slower" and two on the right marked "faster." Move the index to the right one notch and (on my D610 at least) it will increase the selected shutter speed 1 stop over the baseline speed generated by the 1/FL formula. Selecting the rightmost "hash" on the scale raises it 2 stops.

    For example, on my D610 with a 200-500 f5.6 attached and extended to 500, it sets the shutter speed to 1/500. If I select the first hash mark on the "faster" side the shutter jumps to 1/1000. If I set it to the second "faster" hash, the shutter speed jumps to 1/2000.
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  • PistnbrokePistnbroke Posts: 1,847Member
    Special techniques for high MP..? I just point it ,zoom,focus and push the button ...never had any problems or fuzzy pics. The pixel density on a DX 71/200 is higher than even a D850 so whats all the fuss about ? As for depth of field I thought I would notice but as I always shoot at f8 its a problem forgotten .
    Useful post above Capt...I will have a look at that auto function.
    PB-PM..if I was obsessed with MP I would have a D850 by now..its just I need sufficient to crop and 24 MP is not it.
    Now you all have a nice day and let your photography make you happy.
  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 2,093Member
    Thanks tc88 and Capt_Spaulding for clarifying that point.

    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,059Member
    Pistnbroke, if you shooting at f/8.0 indoors sometimes without a flash, you will be generating a lot of noise. Why would you care about megapixels?
  • PistnbrokePistnbroke Posts: 1,847Member
    edited June 2018
    I always use the flash indoors as I have a flash flipper and get no side shadows...the iso automatically goes to 800 as I use a base iso of 200 so I have nice mix of ambient and flash.( except for windowlight shots) .If you insist on getting married in a 13th century church lit by 5w low energy bulbs and an a$$ hole priest that's your choice. Unlike Polish princes I know what I am doing !! At my next wedding the vicar knows me as I photographed her wedding to her wife and she is doing the service for her daughter. dad who is giving her away is the vicar at the church a very restrictive individual but on this occasion all rules are out as his ex wife is the boss ...confused so am I !!
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,089Moderator
    Noise is so dependant on light level, that it is hard to compare performance. One persons idea of low light is anothers normal conditions IME. The whole perception of noise and light is open to 'marketting speak' too I find.
    Always learning.
  • PistnbrokePistnbroke Posts: 1,847Member
    Re the varying shutter speed . What would be useful is a setting that kept the aperture on a zoom lens one stop down from the max as you zoom so a 2.8-5.6 zoom would go from 4 to 8 as you zoom …
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,089Moderator
    For what reason? As I understand it (or not), it is only the 2.8 that is less good at wide angles, as you zoom and the lens loses light, the IQ improves?
    Always learning.
  • PistnbrokePistnbroke Posts: 1,847Member
    The lens I use most is the 28-300 which is I think f 3.5-5.6 . To keep the quality up at 300mm I set it at f8. this means its at f8 at all apertures. Its not a problem but if I could have it at 3.5+ 1stop rising to 5.6 +1stop I would get lower iso/faster shutter at wider settings which could be an advantage in dark churches. Yes I could play with the wheels but that's a disaster waiting to happen.
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,089Moderator
    Gotcha, right.
    Always learning.
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