My experience with the wider lenses is the plane of focus is not necessarily flat. A Zeiss 28mm f/2 was this way and I chose to get the Nikkor 24mm f/1.4 instead. The new Zeiss 15mm is something to lust over...I will await a lot of examples on PAD before I drop that kind of money into a lens I have covered already.
+1 (the little click +1 wasn't enough for me)
So many people do not understand that there are different lens designs and most do/can not be equally focused across the whole frame at large apertures (f2.8) due to the inherent design and physics, not due to something being wrong or that should be expected to be better.
That's a sweet link, many thanks. I've just bought a D800e with MB-D12 in the last two weeks and at the same time bought a AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED and a AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED VR. I already had the AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II and AF-S Teleconverter TC-17E II. I find myself using the 24-120 as a general walkabout lens as the images are stunning at f5.6 and its not overbearingly heavy.
yes the d800 is 36mpx, but in the dx portion it's only about 15. Meanwhile the d3200, d5200, d7100, d7000, etc. are ALL higher pixel density than the d800. why doesn't anyone ever ask about what lenses can resolve to those. I haven't figured that out yet...
"d3200, d5200, d7100, d7000, etc. are ALL higher pixel density than the d800. why doesn't anyone ever ask about what lenses can resolve to those. I haven't figured that out yet..."
Well its fairly simple - most of the lenses being discussed are FX, a DX such as a D7100 will only use the center of a lens which is almost always sharp as a tack - its the corners that have issues when used on an FX camera and that is most of what is being discussed here. Most lenses will look sharp in the middle of the frame on a D800, but the corner performance can be pretty bad in some cases...
... why doesn't anyone ever ask about what lenses can resolve to those. I haven't figured that out yet...
Because sensors are nowhere close to out resolving even average lenses. Some lenses perform better than others, but that has little to nothing to do about "out resolving."
That has been debated on other threads it hurts my eyes to even see it, and it shouldn't be discussed here but on those.
Hello all, I know this is a question that has been asked before, but after looking through previous threads, none of them are specific to the D800 and are up to date, (and by up to date I am referring to the new-ish addition to the FF ultra-wide / wide family 18-35G lens. If such a tread exists, with this data, could you please redirect me.
My question is that I would like to know what you feel is one of the better wide angle lenses for the D800, I have looked at various reviews across the internet and have looked at all the DXO marks, but I have been following this forum for a number of years and have grown high respect for its members and regular posters, and have seen some stunning wide / ultra wide shots on the photo-a-day thread. Landscapes are my primary focus here, and I would like to stay in a family of lens that i could put a filter on... I have been aware of the prime vs. zoom debate and wanted to know your opinion on that for landscape / wide shooting? Price would like to be kept sensible (around 1000$) but i can be persuaded to a higher budget, if you truly feel that the quality of a lens would warrant its high price (cough.. cough.. zeiss glass) is the new 18-35G lens worth it? it has seemed to 'score' higher than the 16-35 and is cheaper? anyone have any info on this?
Thank you all for your input, sorry if this is a bit long winded, though i know the pain when people can ask complex questions without stating what they really want.
Cheers everyone - I greatly appreciate your advice on this matter.
Hi Lambda I have a D800 and shoot landscapes I use the 16 -35 f4 and love it I do shoot wide open, @f4, in poor light, but prefer to shoot at f 8 which will sharpen up the edges a bit I don't like tripods so having VR is a big plus for me
Not quite true with the Nikon 14-24 F2.8. I'm waiting and waiting for a well worth wide angle zoom and have been checking on this lens a lot. No doubt it's a superb lens and the best available in the super wide angle zoom lens division but with a D800 it is showing some really nasty issues. There are a lot of D800 users with this lens complaining about it being SO soft at the edges that it's actually completely out of focus and unusable and some say they need to stop down to at least f5.6 to get good shots and others say they need to go all the way to f8 until they will not see the soft edges anymore. I don't remember which focal lengths or if it was throughout the zoom length. In any case, I don't want that an expensive and HEAVY large, non filter (normal ones), lens not to give at least acceptable edge sharpness at at least f4, so the lens is out for me. I'll wait for one the works better on the D800, or if it takes too many years I'll go with a cheaper one with those issues.
I have not used the 14-24 on my D800e, but have extensively on my D3x and it is sharp corner to corner at 24 mpx.
The only thing that keeps this lrns from being pefect is size / weight/ and exposed front element.
No lens will produce 'worse' results on a D800than on a 700, the pixel peeping is triple the magnification, so flaws become visible.
..... H
D810, D3x, 14-24/2.8, 50/1.4D, 24-70/2.8, 24-120/4 VR, 70-200/2.8 VR1, 80-400 G, 200-400/4 VR1, 400/2.8 ED VR G, 105/2 DC, 17-55/2.8. Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.
I'm a little reluctant to vouch for this lens as I only shot it once for an hour and do not own it, but for the money (c. $700) I was completely impressed by the Tokina 16-28. I believe others, actual owners, have spoken highly of it on this forum. I hope some of them will chime in with pros and cons. In the hour I spent with it, I found no real cons.
It does not take filters per se, but if you're committed to spending $1K and you really wanted filter capability, there's surely a solution of some sort (Lee, Photodiox, ... just guessing here) near $300.
I do a fair bit of landscape work, using both the 24-70 and 17-35. The 24-70 has been discussed at length, but the 17-35 is a bit of an afterthought, particularly with the introduction of the 16-35. I've read all the testing stuff and the assessments of this lens on the D800, but I've found it to be an excellent lens.
Not quite true with the Nikon 14-24 F2.8. I'm waiting and waiting for a well worth wide angle zoom and have been checking on this lens a lot. No doubt it's a superb lens and the best available in the super wide angle zoom lens division but with a D800 it is showing some really nasty issues. There are a lot of D800 users with this lens complaining about it being SO soft at the edges that it's actually completely out of focus and unusable and some say they need to stop down to at least f5.6 to get good shots and others say they need to go all the way to f8 until they will not see the soft edges anymore. I don't remember which focal lengths or if it was throughout the zoom length. In any case, I don't want that an expensive and HEAVY large, non filter (normal ones), lens not to give at least acceptable edge sharpness at at least f4, so the lens is out for me. I'll wait for one the works better on the D800, or if it takes too many years I'll go with a cheaper one with those issues.
I have the Nikon 14mm to 28mm F/2.8 and have shot a pile of images (well over a 2K) with it on my D800E and haven't run into this issue...
Hello. I'm new here and about to order my new camera. Would this lens be a good starting point for the camera, I already have a 70-300 VR lens but am looking for a smaller zoom to use for normal everyday use.. Would appreciate help with this before I buy the wrong lens!
Nikon D7100 for sale, Nikon D800e Nikon 24-85 VR F/3.5-4.5 , Nikon 80-400 VR F/4.5-5.6 G ED :
As Msmoto, said in the other post. The 24-70 2.8 is probably your next lens if you would like zooms. If you want to save money and have great image quality, but the 50mm 1.4G in my signature. Unfortunately, great image quality is very expensive in a zoom and even then, a mid-priced prime will usually be better.
Hello. I'm new here and about to order my new camera. Would this lens be a good starting point for the camera, I already have a 70-300 VR lens but am looking for a smaller zoom to use for normal everyday use.. Would appreciate help with this before I buy the wrong lens!
For the price there isn't any better. If you want better, you are getting into the $1000+ realm.
I had to go back to the 'introduce yourself here' thread to see you are interested in landscape and close-up (should have told us that as it is kinda vital). The answer is that there isn't one lens made by Nikon that will do close-up and landscape so you either have to look elsewhere for something in the 24-70 region that has macro too, or buy two lenses - the kit 24-85 and - if budget allows - the 105 micro (if not enough budget, get the 60mm micro).
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So many people do not understand that there are different lens designs and most do/can not be equally focused across the whole frame at large apertures (f2.8) due to the inherent design and physics, not due to something being wrong or that should be expected to be better.
I've just bought a D800e with MB-D12 in the last two weeks and at the same time bought a AF-S NIKKOR
14-24mm f/2.8G ED and a AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED VR.
I already had the AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II and AF-S Teleconverter TC-17E II.
I find myself using the 24-120 as a general walkabout lens as the images are stunning at f5.6 and its not overbearingly heavy.
Well its fairly simple - most of the lenses being discussed are FX, a DX such as a D7100 will only use the center of a lens which is almost always sharp as a tack - its the corners that have issues when used on an FX camera and that is most of what is being discussed here. Most lenses will look sharp in the middle of the frame on a D800, but the corner performance can be pretty bad in some cases...
That has been debated on other threads it hurts my eyes to even see it, and it shouldn't be discussed here but on those.
Hello all, I know this is a question that has been asked before, but after looking through previous threads, none of them are specific to the D800 and are up to date, (and by up to date I am referring to the new-ish addition to the FF ultra-wide / wide family 18-35G lens. If such a tread exists, with this data, could you please redirect me.
My question is that I would like to know what you feel is one of the better wide angle lenses for the D800, I have looked at various reviews across the internet and have looked at all the DXO marks, but I have been following this forum for a number of years and have grown high respect for its members and regular posters, and have seen some stunning wide / ultra wide shots on the photo-a-day thread.
Landscapes are my primary focus here, and I would like to stay in a family of lens that i could put a filter on...
I have been aware of the prime vs. zoom debate and wanted to know your opinion on that for landscape / wide shooting?
Price would like to be kept sensible (around 1000$) but i can be persuaded to a higher budget, if you truly feel that the quality of a lens would warrant its high price (cough.. cough.. zeiss glass)
is the new 18-35G lens worth it? it has seemed to 'score' higher than the 16-35 and is cheaper? anyone have any info on this?
Thank you all for your input, sorry if this is a bit long winded, though i know the pain when people can ask complex questions without stating what they really want.
Cheers everyone - I greatly appreciate your advice on this matter.
I have a D800 and shoot landscapes
I use the 16 -35 f4 and love it
I do shoot wide open, @f4, in poor light, but prefer to shoot at f 8 which will sharpen up the edges a bit
I don't like tripods so having VR is a big plus for me
The only thing that keeps this lrns from being pefect is size / weight/ and exposed front element.
No lens will produce 'worse' results on a D800than on a 700, the pixel peeping is triple the magnification, so flaws become visible.
..... H
Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.
It does not take filters per se, but if you're committed to spending $1K and you really wanted filter capability, there's surely a solution of some sort (Lee, Photodiox, ... just guessing here) near $300.
Denver Shooter
Nikon 24-85 VR F/3.5-4.5 , Nikon 80-400 VR F/4.5-5.6 G ED :