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  • sumlybumlysumlybumly Posts: 4Member
    what i've decided im going to do is start by buying the lenses i want/need, then once i've thought it about it thoroughly I'll buy the body i came to conclusion with. i did say i'm gonna go ahead and get the d800 but i'm still not sure as to what body.
  • mikepmikep Posts: 280Member
    im surprised that you dont mention your reasons for going from canon, to nikon, to a rx100 and now back to nikon ? and surprised that no one else asked why .... you had a d700 for a month and sold it, but give no reasons ?!

    are you not aware of why you bought a d700 and then sold it one month later ?! either you like it or you dont

    seems like a joke post ?!

    if you had all those cameras and have shot for 5 years plus, you must have a fair idea of what you are doing, yet you only mention the nikon round eye piece and file sizes amongst your reasons

    you have years of experience with cameras ..... dont you know what pictures you want to take yet ?

    seems to me like you should go get a d800, and then sell it if you dont like it.

    but for the record, i too like the circular eye pieces .... :)





  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,186Member
    I have a d800. Had a D700. If I had to do it over again I would not have bought the d800 and I would have switched to canon. That said, go for the D700 - the D800 literally does nothing better than the D700. Anyone who disagrees. Prove it.
    LOL! now that's crossed the border into trolldom ..

    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    edited September 2013
    what i've decided im going to do is start by buying the lenses i want/need, then once i've thought it about it thoroughly I'll buy the body i came to conclusion with. i did say i'm gonna go ahead and get the d800 but i'm still not sure as to what body.

    8-}
    im surprised that you dont mention your reasons for going from canon, to nikon, to a rx100 and now back to nikon ? and surprised that no one else asked why .... you had a d700 for a month and sold it, but give no reasons ?!

    are you not aware of why you bought a d700 and then sold it one month later ?! either you like it or you dont

    seems like a joke post ?!

    if you had all those cameras and have shot for 5 years plus, you must have a fair idea of what you are doing, yet you only mention the nikon round eye piece and file sizes amongst your reasons

    you have years of experience with cameras ..... dont you know what pictures you want to take yet ?

    seems to me like you should go get a d800, and then sell it if you dont like it.

    but for the record, i too like the circular eye pieces .... :)
    @mikep: I agree - there has been a rash of bonkers posts lately ;)
    Post edited by spraynpray on
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  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    edited September 2013
    ....- the D800 literally does nothing better than the D700. Anyone who disagrees. Prove it.
    that is bit like asking us, to prove snow white, is more attractive than the ugly sisters

    Kstyle you are indeed a troll

    Post edited by sevencrossing on
  • proudgeekproudgeek Posts: 1,422Member
    The D800 shoots video better than the D700. :)
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,186Member
    ....- the D800 literally does nothing better than the D700. Anyone who disagrees. Prove it.
    that is bit like asking us, to prove snow white, is more attractive than the ugly sisters

    Kstyle you are indeed a troll

    LOL Snow white didn't have sisters .. !!! haha !

    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    edited September 2013
    LOL Snow white didn't have sisters .. !!! haha !

    well Cinderella then :)
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,186Member
    edited September 2013
    I guess that you really don't know the significance of the much higher DR(Dynamic Range) and colour depth that the D800 has over the D700. while you are investigating that check up the tonal quality of the D800 vs the D700..
    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • tc88tc88 Posts: 537Member
    edited September 2013
    I have a d800. Had a D700. If I had to do it over again I would not have bought the d800 and I would have switched to canon. That said, go for the D700 - the D800 literally does nothing better than the D700. Anyone who disagrees. Prove it.

    LOL! now that's crossed the border into trolldom ..
    +1. :)
    Post edited by tc88 on
  • dissentdissent Posts: 1,353Member
    edited September 2013
    @ kstyle
    regarding the assertion that "nobody takes Nikon seriously for video" , apparently you have not run across articles like these -

    http://nikonrumors.com/2013/01/11/broken-night-short-film-shot-entirely-on-the-nikon-d800-now-available-online.aspx/

    http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/nikon-d800-hollywood-janusz-kaminski-dexter-wilfred/

    EDIT : Moar - http://tomasz.cc/2013/03/cinematic-productions-shot-with-nikon-d800/

    Expressing your opinion is fine, but then you follow that up with statements that sound combative. Since you're the one making the assertions about relative quality, how about if you produce the evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise it's just a pissing contest, in which I will not participate.
    Post edited by dissent on
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  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    edited September 2013
    Kstyle
    you clearly have a defective D800 the difference in IQ is huge

    ( I have both a D700 and a D800 . The D700 is a fine camera but the D800 beats it hands down)

    some other improvement with the D800

    Auto ISO, takes into account focal length
    CLS much better balanced
    auto focusing, faster and more accurate
    Auto exposure, absolutely no need to bracket

    I assume you are comparing shots at or below ISO 1600
    as you increase the ISO setting, the difference between the D700 and D800 is less apparent

    video ? the video on my D700 is useless 8-|
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  • tc88tc88 Posts: 537Member
    Man all I did was give this guy my opinion. he asked a simple question and I said more or less that if it were ME i would go with the D700 over the D800. not that big of deal folks.
    Man it's ok for you to prefer D700 over D800. However, you asked people to prove D800 is better than D700. People on this forum are serious and they have seen enough pictures from both and some also own both to arrive at the conclusion that D800 is definitely better. So it's your responsibility to substantiate your point instead of asking others to prove because the majority obviously don't agree with you. That's why you are treated as someone who trolls. :)
  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    . like when you get into green tint land. which is NOT just on the LCD.
    come on Kstyle admit it, you are Ren Crockwell

  • Golf007sdGolf007sd Posts: 2,840Moderator
    edited September 2013
    @kstyle: You have made it very clear that you are in some way not pleased with the D800...that is fine. To each his own. The D700 is a great body and their is nothing wrong with that recommendation.

    Asking us to prove it to you when you are the one that will be pressing the shutter button could/will have have a different turn out for so many reasons. Unfavorable results maybe due to: your gear (may need to be fine tuned); your style of photography and skill level; lenses may need to be calibrated for you D800....or it could simply be that what the D800 produces is not appealing to YOUR Eyes. Like I said in my very post to you...sell it and get something that does appeal to you.

    Do you understand my English now or do we have to get a translator?
    Post edited by Golf007sd on
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,186Member
    edited September 2013
    kStyle check out the fuji mirrorless, they have great sensors. I plan to get one.
    I also hear that the new canons are really quite good. Then also consider getting the new D610 when its announced soon.. I think we all expect no difference between the D610 and the D600 sensor. And I do prefer the colours and images that come out of the D600. If the D800 is really not to your liking switch ! why keep uing a tool that you don't like when there are others more to your liking?
    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • SymphoticSymphotic Posts: 711Member
    edited September 2013

    but you also need a new computer i7 at least 12MB of RAM at least 2 TB hard drive
    you don't need an external, although one for back is a good idea
    ,,, I get by editing D800 RAW files with a nearly three year old machine with a Quad Core i5 and a 1TB HDD. Then again I have 12GB RAM, and a boat load of external drives...
    At work I use a macbook pro i7 with a mere 8 GB, at home I use a macbook air, both with external drives and cinema displays. The Macbook Pro does the job. The Macbook air takes a little more time to process huge projects, but there is always something else to keep my busy.

    I buy top end computers for my clients, but I'm too cheap to buy one for myself. I'm looking forward to the new Mac Pro to see what it can do.

    My colleague switched from a 5DMkII to a D800E with nothing but the 24-120 F/4. If you actually work with the D800 you will find file size isn't really an issue. A 3TB external drive is only $125 now. 32 GB class 10 SD cards are cheaper now than a couple of rolls of Kodachrome used to be.

    Post edited by Symphotic on
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  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,398Moderator
    edited September 2013
    OK, my 2 cents.... I have seen very competent photographers compare the D800 to medium format. Has anyone done this with a D700?

    There are many reasons why one individual prefers a specific camera. Most are personal, a few actually based on objective data. I find no need to prove anything. If there is a 'proof' it is in the images one shoots. I think I have some which show a D4 is maybe better in some situations than my D90. But, for a lot of my images, my old D200 could get the job done quite well.

    When a member comes on a forum and says "prove it" this certainly is suggestive of a troll.....maybe the word to Kstyle is to suggest you "prove" you are not a troll. "One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument"
    Post edited by Msmoto on
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  • SquamishPhotoSquamishPhoto Posts: 608Member
    I told you guys. :]
    Mike
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    edited September 2013
    ...and there he was, gone. L-) :-)
    Post edited by spraynpray on
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  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    Nicely said Msmoto.

    Wish I could attend the outing in Maine to meet you but its not in the cards.
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  • SquamishPhotoSquamishPhoto Posts: 608Member
    You probably are deleted user.
    Mike
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    Shame on you slakjaw. There isn't any truth in any of what you said. I suppose you realise you are likely to be banned for writing this as it is trolling?

    Very few are banned here unless they are spammers. Those banned are an elite band of misfits and jerks.
    Always learning.
  • SquamishPhotoSquamishPhoto Posts: 608Member
    Please delete the troll. His rather sad attempts at insults and humour are making my head hurt.
    Mike
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  • SquamishPhotoSquamishPhoto Posts: 608Member
    I think I hear your mom calling you. She's saying that you haven't finished your home work and that only big boys who finish their homework can have dessert. You don't want to miss out on dessert now, do you pumpkin?
    Mike
    D3 • D750 • 14-24mm f2.8 • 35mm f1.4A • PC-E 45mm f2.8 • 50mm f1.8G • AF-D 85mm f1.4 • ZF.2 100mm f2 • 200mm f2 VR2
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