Can the "The Decisive Moment" be captured at 4 fps

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  • adamzadamz Posts: 842Moderator
    the topic is now reopen and please don't ask why it was closed, as I don't remember. anyway, mods are listing to members suggestions :)
  • ChasCSChasCS Posts: 309Member
    Now That, is service with a broad smile!! ;-)

    Thanks @adamz, you rock!! Well done...
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  • Vipmediastar_JZVipmediastar_JZ Posts: 1,708Member
    I sat down with my 15 month old daughter this week. She is now walking and like any parent wants to cherish those moments. So I started photographing her walking. I did in the past weeks with my phone for video and preffered to live those moments with her helping her take her first steps until this week when I picked up the camera.

    This week I set the camera to af-on and single point continous focus and CH (continous high). It made a big diffence since I now use af-on constantly.

    The photos came out sharp. I use a D800 so to answer your question "yes" it can.

    I also sat her in her high chair and caught many expressions from crying to laughing to modeling all withing a few seconds of each "spectacle".

    Normally I am a single shot person but with her I tend to use continous focus and continous shutter along with af-on.



  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,396Moderator
    One other advantage of 4 FPS (or more) in capturing both adults and children is the blink factor. Sometimes when we are single shooters we catch a lot of closed eyes. :((
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  • AdeAde Posts: 1,071Member
    Yea but sometimes with a faster camera, instead of getting 4 pictures with closed eyes, we get 10 pictures with closed eyes. :))

    For me shutter lag is more important than FPS. Both my D800 and my Coolpix A shoot at 4 fps, but the Coolpix A has a lot more shutter lag (due to slow AF) which can be frustrating when shooting kids.
  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,396Moderator
    edited January 2014
    I love the side issues which can be generated on a thread. if the average blink is 0.1-0.4 seconds, then at 4 FPS one may get two blinking subjects in a burst, but at 10, maybe even four. Obviously a very important concept :-B

    And, yes, shutter lag secondary to slow focusing, or anything is very frustrating.
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  • ChasCSChasCS Posts: 309Member
    @Msmoto,
    You know your loyal subjects, love you twice as much,
    When they wink at you, with both eyes at once... ;-)

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  • haroldpharoldp Posts: 984Member
    Perhaps the D5 will have a 'decisive moment' indicator.

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  • ChasCSChasCS Posts: 309Member
    Instead of "Say Cheese",

    "OK, EVERY BODY BLINK!!"

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  • michael66michael66 Posts: 231Member
    Tommie - sure for sports it does matter but for weddings? A kiss lasts couple of seconds,
    Imagine shooting the Newlyweds' first dance and capturing more than a few seconds with a high fps. You turn to your assistant and hand them your memory card, pop in a new one and go back to shooting. Your assistant takes the images, puts them onto a laptop and creates a flip-book. You then present that to the couple as they walk back to their seats.

    Tell me what you think their reaction will be? How about your cred with future possible customers?

    I just got back from a vacation in LA. At the Santa Monica Pier, there was a small trapeze setup and one after the other, people signed up to give it a try. I tried to shoot a long sequence, but found that my new D7100 could not keep up. I was shooting raw and got only a few shots before I had to wait for the buffer to get written out. Switching to just jpeg, I was able to extend the sequence and get most of a single person's turn before the buffer needed to clear. People love flipping the 4x6 prints I made of those shots, few as they may be.

    Yeah, I want a higher fps rate and a LARGER buffer! :)



  • ThomasHortonThomasHorton Posts: 323Member
    Instead of "Say Cheese",

    "OK, EVERY BODY BLINK!!"

    When I had to take some group pictures of kids, I asked all of them to close their eyes and then open them on the count of 3. On the count of 4/5 I snapped. Worked pretty well.....

    That and telling all the boys that if they blinked, I would have to photoshop a pink bow in their hair. :)
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  • TaoTeJaredTaoTeJared Posts: 1,306Member

    When I had to take some group pictures of kids, I asked all of them to close their eyes and then open them on the count of 3. On the count of 4/5 I snapped. Worked pretty well.....

    That and telling all the boys that if they blinked, I would have to photoshop a pink bow in their hair. :)
    I do the first (close eyes and open) many times when I'm having "issues"!

    I will be adding the "pink bow" to my arsenal. Hope you don't mind!
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  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    I have been trying my hand at bif
    I don't think even if I had 20 fps my results would be any better
    as those 20 frames will always be AFTER , I have pressed the shutter
    now if Nikon could give me frame or two BERORE , that would be a lot better
  • Vipmediastar_JZVipmediastar_JZ Posts: 1,708Member

    now if Nikon could give me frame or two BERORE , that would be a lot better
    I beleive the HTC ONE phone let you do that. I had the phone for a bit and it was a nice feature.
  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    The Nikon 1 system has a "best moment capture" mode.
  • proudgeekproudgeek Posts: 1,422Member
    A lot depends on what you're shooting. If it's a subject (athlete or animal) that tends to move along a predictable trajectory, then yes, 4 is probably enough. For instance, if you're photographing a base stealer, you know where that runner is going. Same (to a certain degree) for a diving osprey. Others are much less predictable.
  • kyoshinikonkyoshinikon Posts: 411Member
    A lot depends on what you're shooting. If it's a subject (athlete or animal) that tends to move along a predictable trajectory, then yes, 4 is probably enough. For instance, if you're photographing a base stealer, you know where that runner is going. Same (to a certain degree) for a diving osprey. Others are much less predictable.

    Lol what is worse than 4fps when trying to catch a base stealer is Slow AF. Often if I have a decisive moment in mind I will create a focus trap on which my subject will fall (given a predictable trajectory etc) something unpredictable on the other hand...
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