Nikon D800s All Discussions

Gareth

Let's do dis, cos we always do dis, yeeaaaahhhhh, boooeeeeeeey.

Haven't bought a D800, might buy the D800s if it fits the bill. I really need a second body after selling my D300s a while back.

So what are people's realistic expectations of the D800s?

The D4s offers (over the D4)

Expeed 4
Higher fps
More movie frame rates
An AF group mode

I think we can assume a D800s would also offer all of these things.

sevencrossing

lets hope so
but I will be quick before this thread gets closed Only Nikon know when the D800 will be "upgraded" but my guess is it will be in a year or twos time also expect a price rise.
remember the D800 is built for quality not speed

Msmoto

damitchey asked so, I reopened this thread.
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I'm looking to go FF and have been lusting over the D800 but now after rumors of the D800X I think I'll have to wait for the new release and possible price drop of the D800 or getting enticed by the new D800X. Any one have any rough ideas/ thoughts as to when we would be able to expect it??.. I.. Must... Buy... Something... Soon..

Msmoto

You may be waiting a long time for a D800 replacement. I would suggest you check the major suppliers and especially our sponsors on NRF and you will get the latest on pricing. The Buying Guide can also be useful.

http://nikonrumors.com/prices/

sevencrossing

now after rumors of the D800X I think I'll have to wait for the new release and possible price drop of the D800 or getting enticed by the new D800X.


There has been a substantial price drop in the D800 since its first release
I don't think there was much of a price drop of the D4 prior to its replacement by the D4s
my D800 paid for it's self, in the first month
the D800 has only one weakness, fps.
If fps is important to you they yes I suggest you wait
other wise don't delay, buy one today and enjoy one of, if not the, best cameras in the world

paulr

<I believe that just after over 2 years of production Nikon are well on with it's successor, Nikon does not stand still and I am sure its replacement will have substantial improvements After all the D800, has to be the best value for money Nikon ever produced.

henrik1963

Rant: if you live in the EU dont wait for the D800 follow up - here is why:

Nikon DF: US price: $3,000 - EU price: $4,500
Nikon 1 V3: US price: $1,200 - EU price: $1,800
New Nikon D800: US price: $4,000 - EU price: $6,000

I dont know why Nikon wants 50% more in the EU. If this continues my next camera will not be a Nikon.

Rantmode off

snakebunk

@henrik1963: In Sweden a D800 costs around 3000 USD (21000 SEK) and that is with tax included. Or do you mean that you expect the D800 replacement to cost 6000 USD?

As I wrote somewhere before my top wish for the D800 replacement is to have a better button for switching the number of focus points. I also would like the camera to be a little faster and have a bigger buffer. Otherwise it is pretty much excellent as it is.

donaldejose

What is the tax rate or amount applied to Nikon cameras in countries where they are more expensive than they are in the US?

Just wondering if the increased price is really Nikon increasing the price or simply a higher tax added to the US equivalent price?

henrik1963

@snakebunk: My D800 was $3,000 just like in the US - Preorder price. Since then Nikon has gone mad

paulr

henrik1963, In the EU retail sellers usually advertise prices including all Taxes, In the US this is not always the case.

henrik1963

@paulr: Tax is not 50% in Denmark, Sweden, England or Germany.

Price for Nikon 1 V2 is still north of $1,000 here - you never see one in the wild here. Most use Canon here :-)

Pistnbroke

In UK just paid equivalent of $3000 well not really paid $600 deposit then Nikon sent me $300 back AFTER A 3 MONTH WAIT then I pay just $120 a month. Worst most disapointing camera I ever bought in 30 years of owning Nikon ...Noisy,bad menus..nothing about it impresses me ..sorry horrible thing.
so I wish for better U1 U2 type memories and a nice quiet shutter.

TaoTeJared

now after rumors of the D800X I think I'll have to wait for the new release and possible price drop of the D800 or getting enticed by the new D800X.


There has been a substantial price drop in the D800 since its first release
I don't think there was much of a price drop of the D4 prior to its replacement by the D4s

Nikon is matching Canon with their 5d mk3 price drops. If you have watched the prices on those bodies, they continually drop substantially over the years even into the next version release.

I'm not fully convinced that the D800 will get a refresh at all. Canon doesn't do a mid-cycle refresh of the 5D series and I do not see Nikon doing one either. Nikon and Canon match each other. Both are about 2 years away for a next gen update.

The list would be very small for updates and I can't see the "real" need for it. The D"x" pro always gets a mid cycle refresh. No other system has the whole package of the D800 with resolution and performance. Considering the cost of releasing a new body and Nikon's financials, I don't see why they would go through that much of expense for not much gain either.

snakebunk

I've never tried the U1, U2 feature but it sounds nice. I just need one setting for flying birds and one for sitting birds. I would like one big U1 button and one big U2 button. Kind of like the A and B brush in lightroom. When you are in U1 mode everything you do is saved to the U1 preset. With that I would not need a better button for switching the number of focus points.

Vipmediastar_JZ

on camera wifi would be nice

ThomasHorton

Focus traping. The D800 is *supposed* to be able to do it. The manual tells us how to do it, but the D800 aint doin it.

sevencrossing

Focus traping. The D800 is *supposed* to be able to do it. The manual tells us how to do it, but the D800 aint doin it.

which setting(s) are you using?

PB_PM

Focus traping. The D800 is *supposed* to be able to do it. The manual tells us how to do it, but the D800 aint doin it.

Yes, this is a well known problem with newer Nikon bodies. I made a video about it a while ago when we had a thread on the subject. http://youtu.be/kalsOY77TsY

Msmoto

I have edited the title of this thread as we now are getting closer to an announcement…..at least in my head..LOL

It looks like Nikon has made improvements, and hopefully will have corrected any focus spot problems folks had, and my guess is the lack of an AA filter will be more like the D7100 instead of the strange way it was on the D800E. A slight increase in FPS to 6 with the grip, better low light ISO, and this may be my "D400" shooting in crop mode. (18.6 MB files in 14-bit lossless compressed)

Any other thoughts?

scoobysmak

I have edited the title of this thread as we now are getting closer to an announcement…..at least in my head..LOL

A slight increase in FPS to 6 with the grip, better low light ISO, and this may be my "D400" shooting in crop mode. (18.6 MB files in 14-bit lossless compressed)

Any other thoughts?

I would probably get one and the grip if I could get 6 fps, the bonus of better low light ISO and the other extras is the icing on the cake. I might purchase a second "D800s" if things like oil spots or focus issues are not a problem, they would replace a D700 and D7000 for me. Then I wouldn't worry about switching menu and controls when between bodies. I might have missed some specs though, I thought the 36 MP sensor in crop mode was more like 16 MP?

Only time will tell what the real specs are.

proudgeek

This might be as close to a D400 as you get. Although it does seem a shame to have to buy a camera like this to shoot it in DX mode. I'd venture that you may be better off shooting it as a full frame and then cropping.

Photobug

Regarding the specs:
Here is the first set of rumored specifications for the Nikon D800s DSLR camera:

No low pass (AA) filter (just like the D800E)
Improved software to suppress moiré
Expeed 4 imaging processor
sRAW
Same AF improvements like in the D4s
Improved low light capabilities
5 fps (6fps with the MB-D12)
Price between D800 and D800E - probably around $3000
No firm announcement date yet - my guess is Photokina (September 2014) or CES (January 2015)

I had expected no low pass filter, Expeed 4 processor, and the same AF improvements like the D4s. I love the 5 fps and 6 with the MB-D12. That will draw wild life shooters. Bet we are looking at August or September.

If the price is $3K to $3.3K I will be surprised. Would not surprise me if it's $3,400 or $3,500.

Now Nikon has my attention.

Vipmediastar_JZ

D800s EXpecting great improvements indeed.

Killerbob

TBH - I don't want a lot. I just want a faster D800E, with above mentioned updates;

No low pass (AA) filter
Expeed 4 imaging processor
D4s alike AF improvements

But I do want a faster camera, in the 7/8FPS range. Get that working, and I'd happily pay USD500 more. In Greenland we probably have some of the lowest sales prices for the D800 in the world, I get the D800E for about USD2'450, and I'd be OK with paying USD3'000 for that D800X.

TaoTeJared

And what If they put the D4's 16mp sensor in the body - then lower the DF by $1,000? Now I would love to see everyone go nuts on that. Or what if they go to a 50+ MP sensor with the same FPS? (My money is on a 40+mp sensor.) I still don't get why they would update it though.

So the D4x is nixed, but I'm assuming that Nikon would do to the D800s as they normally would do with a D4x - Raise the MP and incorporate the D4s processor and that would probably be it. I wouldn't expect much more or some big improvement other than resolution. The D3s/D3x were nominal improvements over the D3 other than sensor swaps. I wouldn't expect anything more than that.

Side note: I just do not get the overly compulsive obsession with FPS by so many - and especially out of a "studio" camera like the D800. It is just forcing an expectation that is not realistic. With the new Expeed 4 - it will only gain 1-1.5 frames with a 36mp sensor. It's data throughput, buffer, and write speeds that are the limitation. The D800 effectively produces twice as much data as the D4. I do not think it should be expected at all unless the MP don't rise. I'm never in need with more FPS, and rarely desire more. Maybe I'm just more deliberate than most when I shoot.
Like many have said, a cheaper FPS D4 (i.e. D400) is needed to fill that gap - but that is another thread.