Will Kodak have a stand @ The 2014 Photokina

spraynpray

I don't think there is enough evidence to support that claim, it may simply indicate that they expect to make more money from whatever it is than a DX (perhaps a D400/9300) at this time.

donaldejose

Whatever it is, I will welcome it. If the price-point, low weight and swivel screen estimates are correct Nikon will be producing a step up from the D610 with about the same body and a few added features: no AA, swivel screen, better focusing module, faster fps, using the same battery grip as the D610. If the low weight estimate is incorrect it could be built off the D810 body with a 24mp no AA sensor. I agree with Framer that most likely it is an FX equivalent to the DX D5300 if the swivel screen estimate is correct. If the swivel screen estimate is incorrect it well could be "the missing D700 replacement" with a 24mp sensor in a D810 body. Either way, I will like it.

sevencrossing

I don't think there is enough evidence to support that claim,e.

the idea a Fx D5200 It is not a claim, it just a pure speculation but an interesting one
75% of Nikon lenses are full frame, so it is not a totally stupid suggestion

henrik1963

24 MP is plenty resolution for most people. Stuff a 24 MP sensor in a D810 body and give it the same features. Make it faster - D810 = resolution - D620 = speed = job done.

sevencrossing

24 MP is plenty resolution for most people..

No No No
mega pixels are like lenses, ( or if you are a girl, like shoes) you can't have too many
yes they slow down PP and take up HD space but
Computers are still following Moore's Law

manhattanboy

Two SEPARATE questions
1 what would you like
2 what do you expect

1) I would like a 24+ MP sensor, no AA, a very quiet continuous shutter at 5+ fps, a decent buffer, the ability to handle the newer SD extreme pro cards, same battery as the 7100, built in wifi, the autofocus of the 810 or something better, 2 built in crop modes with one for DX, and at a price point of $1500-$2000 USD.

2) I expect something overpriced, underfeatured, and underwhelming.

henrik1963

Agree with manhattan boy - I expect overpriced and underwhelming. As nice as the D810 sounds on paper there is nothing new - nothing wow I need to go get one. Why is it so hard to do an upgrade that solves user problems? Add a gps chip, WiFi so I can control the camera from my iPhone or iPad and add radio control for flashes. No rocket science there.

Inovation would be something like: Let different parts of the sensor use a different ISO setting - ND grad filter. Or how about IR mode? Night vision mode? A byerless true B&W camera?

Nikons recent history: Release the same camera at a higher price. Judging from the recent financial report Nikon will be like Leica - selling a few cameras at an astronomical price.

WestEndBoy

I'm with the mirrorless crowd. A mirrorless D4s or D810 would be tempting if all the buttons and dials were the same. I hope, for Nikon's sake, it is not just more of the same old stuff.

A mirrorless D810 with everything the same sounds like a D810 in Liveview. Not sure I see the advantage.

To other points about a full frame version of the D5xxx, maybe we will see a D500 for $1,700ish.

Sports

1 what would you like
2 what do you expect

1) I would like a D810 but with 24 Mp and 8 fps - and I don't think that's gonna happen.
2) I expect a D650 kind of thing. They add features to compete - many customers compare products across brands so those specs are important. I don't expect higher quality as such than D610. By adding features to its big sister, Nikon can keep selling D610 for years to come and reduce its price little by little.

Sports

you can't have too many [mega pixels]

+1.
20-24 Mp seem to be the sweet spot for DX, so if the processing power is available (Expeed 5), the same pixel density would be nice to have on FX (50 Mp).
... Yeah, I know, Expeed 5 is NOT available now, but in four years time, a 50 Mp FX will make a lot of sense.

Golf007sd

NikonMick

I'm perfectly happy with the current spex of the Df, as I noted in December, but would wish for a different form factor, as my comparison with the Nikkormat FT-3 suggests.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/68039985@N08/11213892414/in/photostream

Mick

MikeGunter

Hi all,

@ WestEndBoy

"A mirrorless D810 with everything the same sounds like a D810 in Liveview. Not sure I see the advantage."

I may be out of my depth, but I think that a mirror less camera would offer several advantages, at least contrast auto focus, less weight, no mirror vibration, and faster frame rates.

If the camera also used the F-mount, same Nikon AF electronics to legacy lenses, what would be not to like?

What will it be? It's anyone's guess.

My best,

Mike

spraynpray

I'm with the mirrorless crowd. A mirrorless D4s or D810 would be tempting if all the buttons and dials were the same. I hope, for Nikon's sake, it is not just more of the same old stuff.

A mirrorless D810 with everything the same sounds like a D810 in Liveview. Not sure I see the advantage.

To other points about a full frame version of the D5xxx, maybe we will see a D500 for $1,700ish.

Surely not. An FX body with a lower spec than the D610? Sounds like a way to NOT sell cameras to me. The D610's AF stopped me buying it when I had the chance. My money is on it fitting between the D610 and D810 - but I guess we'll soon see!

heartyfisher

The more i think about this the more it seems like to me to it could be a cross between D5xxx and the D810.

ie D5xxx and D800 style body. with D810 electronics and Focus system with more emphasis towards Video. 4K video plus expeed 4 with 24MP sensor. High ISO should be half to 1 stop better than the D610. May even have wifi and GPS.

Since the D810 replaces the D800E it seems to me that this camera kind of fills the space that the D800 vacates. plus adds Video and may have "consumer" toys like GPS and wifi. ie one of the targets are the High end amateurs that really don’t fit well with the Pro D810 (the D810 is too much of a workhorse to be fun!). ie this new camera could be the Geek/nerd/gearhead ver of the Df. may even include the kitchen sink.. ;-)

If its as I am guessing, it could be a slam dunk for nikon !

PS: would be great with a geeky new 26-180 F3.2-4.8 VR3 lense, that works well with a new TC17 ! ;-) (ie becomes a 45-300 F5.0-8.0 lense)

spraynpray

I think your idea has legs hearty.

WestEndBoy

My GPS never comes off my D800.

Symphotic

4K video, either as a DSLR (EOS-1D C) or something like the EOS C-500. There is no reason why they can't do it, and they need to be in that market.

I don't want a mirror less D810. I'd like a full frame mirror less that can take either the current full frame lenses or a more compact set of lenses for use specifically with the mirror less camera. This will make the camera smaller. (I'm thinking a Nikon S body.)

Elvishefer

1) A technology demonstration of something surprising, risky and progressive that demonstrates Nikon's camera division R&D is striving to be a leader in the field and building a business for the future.

2) Booth babes.

rmp

I like the sounds of 50mp, mirror less, as small as the V3. And yes, I know I cannot make full use of the toys I have now so I do not need anything new. So let's add the booth babes as well.

Photobug

Here are my expectations for the D710 FF DSLR based upon the last two main boar post from Peter.

24MP full frame sensor
I don't need a tilting LCD screen but others love it especially for video work.
Wi-Fi built into the body
GPS via external module
Expeed 4 imaging processor. D4 would be nice. D4s would be outstanding.
Larger body than a D610 but smaller than the D810. Better ergonomics than D610 with similar button layout to the D8100. And the big deal for me, the body size will be similar to the D300.
The return of the AF button on the back for BIF and fast action photography..
I don't care what it weighs. Expect it to be similar to the D610. Slightly heavier is okay.
Faster AF system than D610 with 51 points and they will be spread out not pushed to the center, like D610.
Higher ISO than D610
New shutter mechanism
Mirrorless would be nice but not expecting it. That would drive up the price.
Larger buffer than D610 and D800
8 FPS shutter with 9 or 10 fps with battery grip. BIF and sports photographers will be excited.
Price range: $2,497 to $2,697 with a target price of $2,597 (half way between the D610 & D810)

We should see more leaks about this new model and it would not surprise me to see early release of videos like the Df model.

Symphotic

...
2) Booth babes.

You crack me up! I ran a photodiode company 15 years ago and I let a sales guy honcho a trade show once. He hired "booth babes".
I had to fire him: we got more leads than any other show we had ever done in the past, but none of them were interested in buying our product!

donaldejose

Action camera? That sounds good because it suggests D4s/D810 AF, good buffer and high fps.

Coastalconn

This could be a smart decision by Nikon. They could get an extra 1K out of people like me. I really like my D7100 except for the FPS and Buffer. When I shot with a D600 I really liked the IQ, but the AF was not as snappy as the D7100. Mix that all together and produce a 24 MP camera that is fast and has a great buffer and I might finally go full frame even at reduced resolution for my Osprey. I was really considering a used D800 when the prices plummeted after the D810 got released, but for me the FPS would be a drag. Hmm, things will get interesting in the next few weeks...

manhattanboy

Things will be interesting soon. Its nice to see canon and Nikon go different paths for once.
Canon is sticking with an crop 7D update rumored at 10+fps and no wifi. Nikon will now counter with a FF body probably at a similar fps but with wifi. The only thing I wish Nikon would surprise at PK with is a 400 5.6 VR for $1000. Canon's cheap 400 is quite good and very light. I too like the resolution advantage of FF, but not at the expense of a big Nikon tele that costs as much as a used car.