D300s Successor-D400, what and when

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  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,494Member
    The thing is, there is no D400 delay. ;) It kind of goes with the old saying, "It's be ready when it's ready."
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • catfish252catfish252 Posts: 30Member
    Canon Rumors has an article today concerning the availability of the 7D Mk II -- Below is one of the points talked, another concerns the possible sensor that it will contain. It does mention Nikon and the D400 as being something that may speed up the Canon announcement.

    When is it coming?
    It will not be shipping before the end of 2013, there is a possibility of an announcement before the year is out, but I’d say that is unlikely at this time. Timing could also depend on what Nikon is going to be doing with the D400. We’ve been told for ages that the EOS 7D Mark II will be an early 2014 camera.
    Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click the shutter. Ansel Adams
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,090Member
    I agree with donaldejose. Personally I am buying YET ANOTHER D7100 and the 18-105mm kit lens. Since I have the 12-24 Nikkor I finally decided that the purchase of yet another of BOTH of the two mentioned items is the best way to wait this out for me. I COULD hold out for a D400 release within four months but I finally have decided I going to just pay my money and take my chances as I am also convinced the initial D400 pricing will be quite high and the D7100 has been able to reconcile many of the past problems I have encountered. If I thought the D400 was say coming out in August at $1,800 I would wait. Yet as the D7100 is doing everything we try with it very well, it seems adding another one here is justified.

    There also is a considerable learning curve to getting the best results from these cameras. A friend rented a D800 and a D7100 for use in a commercial shoot out west and the D800 was great and the D7100 was not set up for RAW on his Mac and the camera was not set up with a single focus point grid as he was used to. So by the time the rigs went back to the rental company the D800 had saved the day. The 80-400VR was the most used lens, and the D7100 had fallen a little short. Seems to ME that the D800 is a brilliant replacement for the D700 as sevencrossing has stated!
  • LarryLLarryL Posts: 0Member
    Speculations upon speculations...Will a D400 even come out? I would like to see a built in grip however, 18 megs, since I am not convinced the lens out there can focus down on a much finer pixel grid, much better ISO performance, same or better color depth and dynamic range of the D800, 8 -10 frames a second. Remove the low pass filter... and HDR and no video. For now I am hanging on to my D300s since I went through 1 D70s that stopped reading cards well, 3 D90's with issues and on my second D300s.

    So perhaps better Quality Control would be my first desire and it has kept me from buying the D800E.
  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    The D400 will have 24MP, 9fps, no AA filter, 4K video, decent audio(finally), native 12,800 ISO, 51 autofocus points, and built-in wifi.
    You heard it here first.
  • KuvKuv Posts: 55Member
    ...same or better color depth and dynamic range of the D800...
    DX with DR like the best FX... not happening...
  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,398Moderator
    @Ironheart

    "You heard it here first" LOL
    Msmoto, mod
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,090Member
    A built in grip is a sales and weight liability. Small light and packed with power is the Nikon goal. Adding a large grip when they are available as an add on is risky. The D7100 is being used by people who own D4s. Why? It is smaller and often can get the job done. Another issue is sales price. One rumor I am alienated by is the Australian take on the new kit lens for the D400 as a 18-55VRIII. Everyone I know who owns a D3100 or a D3200 state that they DO NOT EVEN LIKE the 18-55VR they do own. That lens sells for $97. The far better 18-105VR is a far superior lens. Look at the ratings. The 16-85VR on the other hand is a wonderful lens BUT it should be at a lower price to make it even viable as a kit lens.
  • KuvKuv Posts: 55Member
    Small light and packed with power is the Nikon goal.
    Many here disagree.
  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    edited July 2013
    the
    The D7100 is being used by people who own D4s. Why? It is smaller and often can get the job done. .
    Dx has three big advantages: price, size and weight

    I know some you want the D400 to be similar in size to a D800

    but I think the demand is for a lightweight pro camera with 8 fps and a pro light weight fixed aperture zoom say f4 16 -105


    the other option for the new DSLR would be a D800 with 8fps

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  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,398Moderator
    The D400 will most likely be a size very similar to the D300s...almost identical to the D800 which is about 60 grams (2 Oz.) heavier.
    Msmoto, mod
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,494Member
    the
    The D7100 is being used by people who own D4s. Why? It is smaller and often can get the job done. .
    Dx has three big advantages: price, size and weight

    I know some you want the D400 to be similar in size to a D800

    but I think the demand is for a lightweight pro camera with 8 fps and a pro light weight fixed aperture zoom say f4 16 -105
    I don't think that's what people are demanding that all, otherwise the Pentax K-5II would be flying off the shelves. For those who don't know, the K-5II is D300 quality body, but similar to the D7100 in size/weight.

    The D400 should, and most likely will, retain the D300s size/weight body with similar speed and decent buffer space etc. Throw in the modern bells and whistles and you've got a great camera.
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    I got to go back and agree with donaldejose. Providing a camera module to cell phone manufacturers is an excellent way to improve sales.

    Interesting comment by Davej on buying another D7100. I am about to give up on the D400 and buy a D7100.
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    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    I second the requirement that the D400 NOT have a built in grip. Cost and the larger size is a big negative. When I have to shoot all day I throw on the battery grip or carry a 2nd battery. I just can't see the built in grip due to the size and weight implications.

    I like the idea of a built in Wi-Fi and of course all the other expectations outlined earlier..
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    Been quiet for a while. I think we all just dried up talking about what we want in the D400. I am so tired of waiting. (:->)
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 2,293Member
    I can tell you already what it won't have- an XQD card slot. :D
    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,494Member
    A few cheeky Nikon engineers will read that comment and decide to put in dual XQD card slots. :D :P
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • KuvKuv Posts: 55Member
    A few cheeky Nikon engineers will read that comment and decide to put in dual XQD card slots. :D :P
    In that case I can tell you what camera we won't see: A D400 successor.
  • garniemandgarniemand Posts: 3Member
    hi there,
    in a German computer mag (http://www.chip.de/news/Nikon-D400-Neue-Semiprofi-DSLR-im-September_63120170.html) they refer to nikonrumors and say that I should have read here that the D400 is coming in Sept, will cost €1.5k and basically be an enhance D7100 in a D800 body.
    Did I miss this rumor ?
  • brownie314brownie314 Posts: 72Member
    the
    The D7100 is being used by people who own D4s. Why? It is smaller and often can get the job done. .
    Dx has three big advantages: price, size and weight

    I know some you want the D400 to be similar in size to a D800

    but I think the demand is for a lightweight pro camera with 8 fps and a pro light weight fixed aperture zoom say f4 16 -105


    the other option for the new DSLR would be a D800 with 8fps

    "but I think the demand is for a lightweight pro camera with 8 fps"
    Isn't this the D7100? It is light weight and has pro image quality. It doesn't do 8pfs, but really close.

    "and a pro light weight fixed aperture zoom say f4 16 -105"
    definitely. And can I add - please Nikon take a DX zoom seriously for once and add some sealing and toughness. If they are going to give us a pro DX body, at least give us at least one pro DX lens.
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    "please Nikon take a DX zoom seriously for once and add some sealing and toughness. If they are going to give us a pro DX body, at least give us at least one pro DX lens."

    +10
    Always learning.
  • brownie314brownie314 Posts: 72Member
    "please Nikon take a DX zoom seriously for once and add some sealing and toughness. If they are going to give us a pro DX body, at least give us at least one pro DX lens."

    +10
    Although my ideal DX lens would be a 50-150 f/4 (or f3.5 even better). I like Nikon's 70-200 f/4, but 50mm is much more useful to me than 70mm on DX. I know this is off of the D400 topic (sort of) but I think this thread is pretty much beat up anyway.
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    Hope that article is correct. Price is good and I love the D800 body feel. So what enhancements on the D7100 would they make to justify the cost difference between a D7100 and the D400?

    How did this article hit a magazine and we are just now hearing about it? Good job garneimand. Surely someone is going to leak specs for the camera. PLEASE!
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    spraynpray said:
    "please Nikon take a DX zoom seriously for once and add some sealing and toughness. If they are going to give us a pro DX body, at least give us at least one pro DX lens."

    Totally agree. A new 17-55mm F/2.8 with seals and toughness would be terrific...even if they did as a F/3.5.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    spraynpray said:
    "please Nikon take a DX zoom seriously for once and add some sealing and toughness. If they are going to give us a pro DX body, at least give us at least one pro DX lens."

    Totally agree. A new 17-55mm F/2.8 with seals and toughness would be terrific...even if they did as a F/3.5.
    Nah, if it is a pro lens, why not go the whole hog - upgrade the 16-85 to f2.8, VR3 sealed and robust. To hell with the weight. That would be enough to keep me on DX - for a while, anyway.
    Always learning.
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