Tell me what you think.. D7200 vs D610

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  • tcole1983tcole1983 Posts: 981Member
    edited April 2015
    Really if I was in the $1000 range I would just save up the rest and get a refurbished D800...no reason not to. I am too cheap for my bodies though...I got my D5200 with 18-55 lens for $440 and my D5000 with 18-55 for around the same and sold the first 18-55 which made my body cost come out to around $350. I haven't regretted my choices for what I shoot and what I do. I still get what I see as acceptable pictures to me. The one wedding I shot paid for my D5200, so I was happy to get that for "free".
    Post edited by tcole1983 on
    D5200, D5000, S31, 18-55 VR, 17-55 F2.8, 35 F1.8G, 105 F2.8 VR, 300 F4 AF-S (Previously owned 18-200 VRI, Tokina 12-24 F4 II)
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
    edited April 2015
    I know this tread is about D610 vs D7200

    but Pitchblack brought up a some good points regarding
    D610 + D7200 vs D810.
    Can we list some specific pros and cons ?

    D810
    1) ISO 64.
    2) Better Build

    D7200+D610
    1) better High ISO (D610)
    2) more reach (D7200)
    3) Backup camera.
    4) 2 cameras - more versatile with 2 lenses at the ready..

    Thats all I can think of for now .. (sleepy zzz )
    D810
    * Group area AF
    * Lighter? - only one camera to deal with.
    * Pro Layout - faster to handle and set.

    D7200/D610
    * Similar layout.
    * Less lens changes.
    * one DX one FX almost doubles the FOV options and versatility of your lenses.
    * -3EV AF (D7200) but its on the DX sensor so.. not that big an advantage.
    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • kyoshinikonkyoshinikon Posts: 410Member
    D7200 has 1/8000 and better AF & Buffer. D610 is fx. Those are the pros. The cons D7200 isnt Fx D610 has worse AF & Buffer & 1/4000 max ss.

    Discussion Over
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  • Capt_SpauldingCapt_Spaulding Posts: 497Member
    Having considered the differences and opted for a D610, here's what I decided and how.

    With the assorted inducements Nikon recently offered on the D610 the cost was, to me, a wash. For my purposes, the speed and buffer were pretty well down the list of considerations. That said, both cameras run at about 6fps and both buffers hold about the same number of images. So, to the extent those matter, again, it was a wash.

    The AF was a sticking point. The 610 is clearly several generations behind the 7200 in that department. That was a win for the 7200. What it boiled down to for me was the sensor. The DR of the 610 and the subjective evaluations of the IQ from a number of sources tipped the scales in favor of the 610. For what I want to do, the 610 comes the closest to the mark. Obviously, a D750 would be even better but, for me not $1000 better. Opportunity cost made that call easier. I may well come down with GAS in a couple of months and be forced to buy a D810 to relieve it. Life's a gamble. I guess time will tell.
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 4,605Member
    Logical approach to your decision making. Your going to love it. Be sure to post some pictures on PAD from your new tool.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
    Bit of a milestone? I can get a new D610 cheaper than the D7200 now ..
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • RyukyuRyukyu Posts: 30Member
    Yes, a used or refurbished D800 seems the way to go when trying to stay within that $$ range.
    .
    Bit of a milestone? I can get a new D610 cheaper than the D7200 now ..
    Where can you find that?
  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,396Moderator
    The D800 is getting less all the time. I love my used D800E....continues to impress me with the resolution...and I can crop to DX easily, but if full frame is needed it is there.

    However, I do not need the hi ISO a as I have another body for action/low light. So, if better ISO or FPS the D7200 may be a better choice.
    Msmoto, mod
  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    edited April 2015
    In the days of film, cash strapped amateurs could buy quality, second hand Pro gear
    The digital age changed that. Affordable second hand Pro gear, tended to be very dated
    A second hand D800 is no longer cutting edge but after the D810 probably the best camera in the world IMHO
    Post edited by sevencrossing on
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 4,605Member
    +1 sevencrossing - Technology has been moving so fast that after 18/24 months the new models have key updates that results in the older models selling for low prices. At some point in time, DSLR technology will slow down and it will be "refinements" that define the new model not huge improvements. I thinks are slowing down now but it still has not approached 35mm SLRs.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,059Member
    +1 sevencrossing - Technology has been moving so fast that after 18/24 months the new models have key updates that results in the older models selling for low prices. At some point in time, DSLR technology will slow down and it will be "refinements" that define the new model not huge improvements. I thinks are slowing down now but it still has not approached 35mm SLRs.
    I agree with this assessment.
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
    edited April 2015
    I know this tread is about D610 vs D7200

    but Pitchblack brought up a some good points regarding
    D610 + D7200 vs D810.
    Can we list some specific pros and cons ?

    D810
    1) ISO 64.
    2) Better Build

    D7200+D610
    1) better High ISO (D610)
    2) more reach (D7200)
    3) Backup camera.
    4) 2 cameras - more versatile with 2 lenses at the ready..

    Thats all I can think of for now .. (sleepy zzz )
    ..........

    D810
    * Group area AF
    * Lighter? - only one camera to deal with.
    * Pro Layout - faster to handle and set.

    D7200/D610
    * Similar layout.
    * Less lens changes.
    * one DX one FX almost doubles the FOV options and versatility of your lenses.
    * -3EV AF (D7200) but its on the DX sensor so.. not that big an advantage.
    Interesting info from DXO providing some info comparing the D7200 D610 and D810
    http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Nikon-D7200-The-new-APS-C-champ/Comparison-1-Nikon-D7200-vs-Nikon-D810-vs-D610

    It looks to me like overall IQ wise from DXO that the D810 IQ is still better than the D610/D7200.
    But for the advantage of the 2 camera and 2 format
    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,059Member
    edited April 2015
    Interesting how much the Canon is sucking the hind tit - see the main blog.
    Post edited by WestEndFoto on
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
    edited April 2015
    Interesting how much the Canon is sucking the hind tit.
    :-) ... cautiously celebrating but I remember the days when it was the other way around and may happen again.... Canon has some new multilayer sensor tech around the corner :-)

    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
    edited April 2015
    Summarizing : D610 + D7200 vs D810.

    D810
    1) ISO 64.
    2) Better Build
    * Group area AF
    * Lighter? - only one camera to deal with.
    * Pro Layout - faster to handle and set.
    + Quiet Mode
    + Electronic front curtain shutter - reduce/eliminate vibration.

    D7200+D610
    1) better High ISO (D610) but AF rated to -1ev only.
    2) more reach (D7200)
    3) Backup camera.
    4) 2 cameras - more versatile with 2 lenses at the ready..
    * Similar layout.
    * Less lens changes.
    * one DX one FX almost doubles the FOV options and versatility of your lenses.
    * -3EV AF (D7200) but its on the DX sensor so.. not that big an advantage.

    Looking at this list.. to me it looks like the weak link is the D610.. if you want a 2 camera DX/FX combo vs the D810 pro cam, it looks like replacing the D610 with the D750 would make it an unbeatable kit ... and $550 more. Is a 2 camera multi-format combo worth $300 more than a single best camera?

    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,059Member
    Summarizing : D610 + D7200 vs D810.

    D810
    1) ISO 64.
    2) Better Build
    * Group area AF
    * Lighter? - only one camera to deal with.
    * Pro Layout - faster to handle and set.
    + Quiet Mode
    + Electronic front curtain shutter - reduce/eliminate vibration.

    D7200+D610
    1) better High ISO (D610) but AF rated to -1ev only.
    2) more reach (D7200)
    3) Backup camera.
    4) 2 cameras - more versatile with 2 lenses at the ready..
    * Similar layout.
    * Less lens changes.
    * one DX one FX almost doubles the FOV options and versatility of your lenses.
    * -3EV AF (D7200) but its on the DX sensor so.. not that big an advantage.

    Looking at this list.. to me it looks like the weak link is the D610.. if you want a 2 camera DX/FX combo vs the D810 pro cam, it looks like replacing the D610 with the D750 would make it an unbeatable kit ... and $550 more. Is a 2 camera multi-format combo worth $300 more than a single best camera?

    In my view, only if you must have a backup.
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
    edited April 2015
    Maybe its just me but I have always had a backup. But I guess there are a few kinds of "backup".
    1) Primary camera used always and backup only if it fails.
    - I would go D810 and bring along
    a) maybe P&S or
    b) older (not worth selling) camera
    c) nikon 1system

    2) Both camera used mainly for redundancy and full backup - exactly the same camera probably both D810 or both D7200 or whatever else depending on budget. eg weddings, events, jobs.

    3) Most versatility and options - as suggested the D750+D7200 seems to be the best option here. With just 2 lenses you can get a substantial FOV range and at top IQ for very varied light, from Bright desert sun to dim temple internals. I guess I am thinking of what and how I like to shoot here. ie short Day Trips or weekends to various spots where I dont know what I will be getting.
    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • DeroriDerori Posts: 1Member
    I am getting ready to head back to the Philippines for three weeks in June. I had a D7000 for a while. I used to be a Canon guy, but when I wanted something that would shoot video, I went back to Nikon. I was never really happy with the grip on the D7000, though the battery grip made it bearable. I wasn't thrilled with its low-light performance, either, despite the fact that I had heard so much good stuff about it. I am planning to either pick up a D7200 or D610 before my trip. I honestly would rather have the D810. Even in crop mode, it is what I wished the D7000 was. I want to post a lot of photos on a Facebook page I have and also get some really good professional-looking video of resorts, so I like the idea a large sensor. Plus, I used to have a Canon EOS 3 and a 1v, so I like big, solid cameras.

    I have a 24-85 lens, plus some older Nikon lenses I bought so I could change aperture while shooting in manual mode for video. That, for me, is a big thing, and I am happy Nikon is starting to do it. The D750 with its tilting screen may end up winning the day. Honestly, big thing for me is that I really want the Sigma 18-35 1.8 lens. Everything I've seen about it makes me think it's the perfect lens for wider landscape shots that have great sharpness, plus it would give me great performance for video in lower light situations. That lens alone has me thinking about going with the crop sensor camera. It's like having a "normal" lens that is even sharper than a lot of primes, but then being able to zoom out for wide shots.

    One nice thing is that when I sold my D7000, I still kept a couple extra batteries and charger and so forth, so I am happy Nikon is using the same ones. A big thing for me, too, is looking at the battery life between the different cameras.
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,089Moderator
    For me, I'm thinking the focus points of the D610 are so close together that it is a no brainer to go for the D800 - providing you have the budget to upgrade computer and lenses as appropriate. I find the D750's focus points too close together too.
    Always learning.
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 885Member
    I'd take the D7200 every time vs every FX Nikon I've seen. My family is doing pro photo work. The outfits we work with HAVE FX camera gear and the reason they NEED us is aerial and UW and more depth of field in photos and video taken under tough field conditions.
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,172Member
    Awesome sales locally ! .. sigh .. NAS is biting hard ! may be getting a D7200 later today or tomorrow.. see if I can resist ..

    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,059Member
    I'd take the D7200 every time vs every FX Nikon I've seen. My family is doing pro photo work. The outfits we work with HAVE FX camera gear and the reason they NEED us is aerial and UW and more depth of field in photos and video taken under tough field conditions.
    I don't think about cameras until I have made my decisions on lenses. Given my lenses below, the D800 seemed like the best choice and moving forward, Nikon's highest resolution FX camera will always be my choice.

    Forced to choose between FX and DX in the same generation it will always be FX and given the choice the OP is presenting, it would be the D610.

    Personally, I often wonder about why people are complaining about FX's weight. My D800 with the MB-D12 seems as light as a feather. Perhaps that is because I am sometimes carrying around 5 or 6 lenses. I am also fairly fit.
  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    edited June 2015

    I don't think about cameras until I have made my decisions on lenses. .
    Excellent advice
    If would make sense getting a D7200 for a AF-S NIKKOR 20mm f/1.8G ED
    or a D610 for a AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR

    For UW a smaller dx camera makes a lot of sense
    Post edited by sevencrossing on
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