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Wide-angle Lens Upgrade Suggestions

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  • JonMcGuffinJonMcGuffin Posts: 312Member
    The 82mm thing may be a bit limiting but honestly, that lens is priced so well and performs so well if you really need to buy a set of filters for it for $60-$120 so what, you're still at a very good value.
    Well if you have a 77mm $130 circular polarizer and a $400 Variable ND filter already, wouldn't you rather not have to spend that again for a different size? That ends up costing almost as much as the lens itself.
    Heck no I wouldn't want to do it but if an inferior Nikon lens costs $300 more I'd still do it. Maybe sell the set/kit you already have, go to the 82mm and step up rings and now you're covered for not only this lens but all the other 82mm lenses out there. I'm just saying, the cost you pay for 82mm still outweighs the alternative even if it is inconvienient.
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  • RyukyuRyukyu Posts: 30Member
    Buy step up rings to your largest lens diameter and filters for that. For me that is 77mm. I don't bother putting a filter on my 14-24. I use my 20mm ais when I ant to use a filter.
    Sure but what I'm saying is that I already have 77mm filters and the Tokina 11-20 is 82mm. You can't step up. All I meant was that I wish it had 77mm filter size like the 11-16.
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  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,745Member
    Buy step up rings to your largest lens diameter and filters for that. For me that is 77mm. I don't bother putting a filter on my 14-24. I use my 20mm ais when I ant to use a filter.
    Sure but what I'm saying is that I already have 77mm filters and the Tokina 11-20 is 82mm. You can't step up. All I meant was that I wish it had 77mm filter size like the 11-16.
    So sell your 77s, buy 82s and step up rings to step up your other lenses to 82.
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  • Golf007sdGolf007sd Posts: 2,840Moderator
    edited May 2015
    @No_Orchestra: Spraynpray recommendation on the Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 is dead on. I have used this lens as on D7000 and its results were outstanding. The 77mm filters is also a nice bonus.
    Post edited by Golf007sd on
    D4 & D7000 | Nikon Holy Trinity Set + 105 2.8 Mico + 200 F2 VR II | 300 2.8G VR II, 10.5 Fish-eye, 24 & 50 1.4G, 35 & 85 1.8G, 18-200 3.5-5.6 VR I SB-400 & 700 | TC 1.4E III, 1.7 & 2.0E III, 1.7 | Sigma 35 & 50 1.4 DG HSM | RRS Ballhead & Tripods Gear | Gitzo Monopod | Lowepro Gear | HDR via Promote Control System |
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  • No_OrchestraNo_Orchestra Posts: 13Member
    Thanks a lot, everybody. This has been a very helpful discussion. I do like what I'm seeing regarding the Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8. And the point about selling and replacing if/when I upgrade to FX actually makes a lot of sense.
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  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,398Moderator
    Hee is a thought....the 10.5mm f/2.8...full frame on FX, then when modified a bit, nice circle with flat top and bottom on FX.

    Fisheye Mods-Final

    and on FX

    Detroit_NAIAS 2015 III-9

    Used...less than $500. The modification is not all that difficult.
    Msmoto, mod
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    BTW: The problem with step up filter rings is that you can't fit your lens hood so end up more prone to flare and accidental damage.
    Always learning.
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  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,745Member
    The filter you put on the end will protect against damage. Flare has never bothered me much. I enjoy the effect when shooting into the sun. My lens hoods are still sitting in the boxes the lenses were packaged in.
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,186Member
    edited May 2015
    BTW: The problem with step up filter rings is that you can't fit your lens hood so end up more prone to flare and accidental damage.
    I was thinking of using this ... 82mm clip on lense hood ..

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Easy-Hood-82mm-82-mm-pushbutton-mounting-Lens-Hood-for-Canon-Nikon-Sony-Olympus-/171793815832

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vello-82mm-Snap-on-Tulip-Lens-Hood-Version-II-/400634813123
    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    Lens hoods aren't one-size-fits-all, they are particular to each lens so I can't see how that will work for you @heartyfisher.
    Always learning.
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  • JonMcGuffinJonMcGuffin Posts: 312Member
    It should be noted that the current version of the Tokina is the 11-20 not the 11-16 which was replaced. Doesn't make the 11-16 not good, just that if you went with the current lens it would be the 11-20.
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    Which makes the 11-16 a real bargain used....
    Always learning.
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  • RyukyuRyukyu Posts: 30Member
    edited May 2015
    Have any of you used the Tokina 11-16 on a D7000?
    I was reading on the Lens Rental.com site that they don't recommend the original 11-16 on a D7000, but rather the DX II because of so many reported focusing issues with the first version on a D7000. I know that the second version has the built-in focus motor.
    Anybody have any input on the AF with a D7000?
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,186Member
    edited May 2015
    Lens hoods aren't one-size-fits-all, they are particular to each lens so I can't see how that will work for you @heartyfisher.
    The idea being proposed was to have 1 set of filters at 82mm diameter. and then get step-up rings for all your lenses to use these filters. you then use the 82mm Lense hood on the 82mm filters...
    These generic clip-on lense hoods are not made for wider than 20mm lenses but would do fine for a 24-70.. I think there are other version for longer/shorter lenses.

    Post edited by heartyfisher on
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

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  • Golf007sdGolf007sd Posts: 2,840Moderator
    For educational purposes.

    D4 & D7000 | Nikon Holy Trinity Set + 105 2.8 Mico + 200 F2 VR II | 300 2.8G VR II, 10.5 Fish-eye, 24 & 50 1.4G, 35 & 85 1.8G, 18-200 3.5-5.6 VR I SB-400 & 700 | TC 1.4E III, 1.7 & 2.0E III, 1.7 | Sigma 35 & 50 1.4 DG HSM | RRS Ballhead & Tripods Gear | Gitzo Monopod | Lowepro Gear | HDR via Promote Control System |
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    Have any of you used the Tokina 11-16 on a D7000?
    I was reading on the Lens Rental.com site that they don't recommend the original 11-16 on a D7000, but rather the DX II because of so many reported focusing issues with the first version on a D7000. I know that the second version has the built-in focus motor.
    Anybody have any input on the AF with a D7000?
    Yes. I bought mine back when I had my D7000. No focusing issues, no CA issues, no blurry images, nothing at all. It is a very good lens that I can recommend. A lens I will not recommend is the 16-85 because it was no sharper than my 18-105. It wasn't appreciably better in any way. I can recommend the 17-55 f2.8, but it has no VR, is expensive and has a fairly restricted zoom range.
    Always learning.
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  • RyukyuRyukyu Posts: 30Member
    @spraynpray Thank you for your input. I've been mulling this over for a while. I opted for the Sigma 17-50 OS over the Nikon 17-55 and it's a great lens. So it seems that although 11-16 is a limited focal length range, it would fit in perfectly up to the 17-50. With the added benefit of being able to share my 77mm filters.
    For some silly reason, it took me a while to come to that choice between the Sigma and the Nikon because I have a hard time with buying 3rd party lenses. Now to add a second one from yet another manufacturer? Like I said, I know it's silly. All that should matter really is results.
    Thanks again for your input.

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  • retreadretread Posts: 574Member
    I also am interested in the 11-20. Is it shipping? I have read some reviews but B&H list it as coming soon. How can that be?
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  • tmantman Posts: 27Member
    Ryuku

    You sure it's the 11-16 they're talking about? My d7000 has back focus problems w tok 50-135 which seem from what I've read to be systematic but never read about problems w screwed 11-16. Mine always focuses well and Very happy with images-- I think as good as nikkor primes. If I'd had option to buy 11-20 though I would have so not just uwa.
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  • RyukyuRyukyu Posts: 30Member
    edited May 2015
    Here's the quote:

    Also, we do not recommend using the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 with the Nikon D7000 camera body. We’ve noticed, as well as been told by renters, poor image quality when shooting between 11-13mm due to AF inaccuracy. We’ve also had numerous reports of Error messages that only occur on the D7000 camera body. If using a D7000 or any Nikon DSLR without built-in AF motor, we suggest the newer Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X Pro DX-II.

    Here's the link:
    https://www.lensrentals.com/rent/nikon/lenses/wide-angle/tokina-11-16mm-f2.8-at-x-pro-dx-for-nikon-dx

    If you do a web search there seem to be many complaints, which was a surprise to me, so that's why I asked.
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    edited May 2015
    Well, I can't argue with that. Although I had zero problems with my 11-16 on my D7000 (and now on my D7100), that is only one instance and presumably they must have more instances of problems. I think @Golf007sd has the same combination too and I'm pretty sure he hasn't had any issues either.

    So you could go for the newer DX-II.

    Funny thing though - the depth of field of that lens at those focal lengths is so huge, it would be very hard indeed to have a focus error. Hmmm.
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  • Golf007sdGolf007sd Posts: 2,840Moderator
    The link on my first post was for the DX II. No issues on the D7000.
    D4 & D7000 | Nikon Holy Trinity Set + 105 2.8 Mico + 200 F2 VR II | 300 2.8G VR II, 10.5 Fish-eye, 24 & 50 1.4G, 35 & 85 1.8G, 18-200 3.5-5.6 VR I SB-400 & 700 | TC 1.4E III, 1.7 & 2.0E III, 1.7 | Sigma 35 & 50 1.4 DG HSM | RRS Ballhead & Tripods Gear | Gitzo Monopod | Lowepro Gear | HDR via Promote Control System |
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  • tcole1983tcole1983 Posts: 981Member
    edited May 2015
    Thinking about this all again. I would say get the 17-55 f2.8. I know it can be had under $1000 because I got mine for less than $1000 back when I got it. Fast , sharp. Definitely an upgrade of the kit lens and you gain 1 mm on the wide side. The f2.8 can produce some bokeh at 55. It is my go to walk around lens now. Leaving for work for a week as we speak and I have it on my camera thrown in my carry on with my 300 f4 in its carrying bag.
    Post edited by tcole1983 on
    D5200, D5000, S31, 18-55 VR, 17-55 F2.8, 35 F1.8G, 105 F2.8 VR, 300 F4 AF-S (Previously owned 18-200 VRI, Tokina 12-24 F4 II)
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    The OP opted for the Sigma 17-50 OS so it is an ultra-wide he is looking for advice on not a normal/wide.

    Sorry Ali, I thought you had the earlier version not the II.
    Always learning.
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  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    The OP opted for the Sigma 17-50 OS so it is an ultra-wide he is looking for advice on not a normal/wide.
    Are you clairvoyant? The last I saw, the OP was leaning towards the Tokina 11-16 :-/ assuming the OP is @No_Orchestra
    In any event the 17-50 is a normal wide on DX, considering it is a DX lens. Or am I missing something ^#(^
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