Why I want a 50 MP FX Nikon

snakebunk

I think Nikon will go for fast cameras in the next generation, so my guess is D830, and my wild quess is that it will be 72 mp.

sevencrossing

I think Nikon will go for fast cameras in the next generation,

I think we have a slightly different definition of fast
It can be ISO
It can be pfs
It can be shutter speed
It can be focussing speed
or a combination of the above

spraynpray

Well, if it is 50 mp or even more, I'd say the fps will be pedestrian so it isn't that interpretation. Lower mp's are always better for hi ISO noise, so it isn't that either.

sevencrossing

Well, if it is 50 mp or even more, I'd say the fps will be pedestrian

I think a lot of us will have different definitions of pedestrian

In the 60s I used to think 4 fps was fast, and still do

snakebunk

Sorry, I meant fast as in lots of fps.

spraynpray

Well, if it is 50 mp or even more, I'd say the fps will be pedestrian

I think a lot of us will have different definitions of pedestrian

In the 60s I used to think 4 fps was fast, and still do

4 fps was still fast in the '70's but we are in the here and now where 11-14 fps is possible so 4 fps is very pedestrian. If Snakebunk's wild guess (hope) of 72mp comes true, then even 4 fps would be amazing.

Ironheart

In the 60s I used to think 4 fps was fast, and still do

Still living in the 60s? ;-) I live in the 60s too, 60fps. I was shooting an event the other day, and I was wondering why I was filling my memory card so fast, turns out I left it in 60fps mode. Dumped it down to 20fps and it was all good. No worries about closed eyes or open mouths at 20fps you can always find a good one.

To answer your earlier question, I think the 5Ds killer will be a D810x, or a D820

sevencrossing

It does not seem that long ago, people were moaning about 36 mp filling up their hard drive etc
and the time it takes to edit and pp a wedding
Now people are hinting at 72 mp and 60 fps That's nearly 2 rolls of kodachrome a second

manhattanboy

So what do people think Nikon's "answer" to the 5DS is likely to be

D750x
D810x
D900
D4x
D5
FX mirrorless

Place your bets please

D900

WestEndFoto

D820

Sports

D5x or FX mirrorless

nek4life

Maybe they will just use the newly announced 42MP Sony sensor in the A7rII. It has some new back-side illuminated technology that is supposed to enhance the sensors low-light capability without sacrificing the high mega-pixel count.

haroldp

and PDAF elements on the sensor, and sensor based VR.

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heartyfisher

PDAF is built in on the sensor so yes that is possible and looks good. But sensor based VR that Sony has is not built in the sensor. The VR sensor housing was acquired from Olympus which Sony partly owns. Nikon does not have that technology.

manhattanboy

PDAF is built in on the sensor so yes that is possible and looks good. But sensor based VR that Sony has is not built in the sensor. The VR sensor housing was acquired from Olympus which Sony partly owns. Nikon does not have that technology.

Yeah, its really interesting how much Sony is progressing. The sad part is also how much the price is progressing upwards. I think if they kept it at the old camera's price, a TON of Canon camera owners would have bitten and ordered it. At >$3K its a tougher sell. If Sony were really smart they would have released 2 versions: one camera at the $2K range that works with Sony lenses, and one camera more expensive in the $3K range that costs more because you can natively attach Canon lenses... that would have been huge and possibly a death blow to Canon's new 5DS.

PB_PM

PDAF is built in on the sensor so yes that is possible and looks good. But sensor based VR that Sony has is not built in the sensor. The VR sensor housing was acquired from Olympus which Sony partly owns. Nikon does not have that technology.

Not anymore, Sony withdrew their holdings in Olympus a short time ago. In addition, if you look at the patients the Sony and Olympus in camera stabilization are not working on the same principal. Similar, but not the same.

haroldp

Sony's biggest weakness is the lack of lenses in FE mount. Even the available Zeiss lenses are very expensive and not up to their Nikon or Canon counterparts.

An adapter that would couple the electrical connections and enable sensor PDAF for Nikon or Canon lenses would be a killer product.

Sigma has announced but not yet delivered their lenses in FE mount.

I am using a Sony A7II exclusively with MF Leica lenses, for which I considerit to be a superior mount to the Leica M240 at 1/4 the price.

The sensor, and EVF are much better than Leica's as well as AF aids.

Adding VR and a sensor capable of decent ISO performance to Leica's stunning F2 and F1.4 primes is amazing.

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