D7000 Replacement

tcole1983tcole1983 Posts: 981Member
edited February 2013 in Nikon DSLR cameras
I haven't seen any threads that are really on the D7100. I have been waiting for this. I hope they upgrade the autofocus and I think it will be perfect for me. Anyone else interested? ISO rumors are a little sad...I hope it is an update and not just more MP.
D5200, D5000, S31, 18-55 VR, 17-55 F2.8, 35 F1.8G, 105 F2.8 VR, 300 F4 AF-S (Previously owned 18-200 VRI, Tokina 12-24 F4 II)
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  • kyoshinikonkyoshinikon Posts: 411Member
    To me the only issues I have with mine are
    #1 the horrid buffer
    #2 Iso's over 3200
    #3 Video in some lighting situations

    There isn't much else that would make much better.
    Built in Gps is a huge pro tho...
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  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,098Member
    Controls and function would likely be like the D600, but maintain the slightly more compact D7000 body. It will either get the higher end 51 point AF system or stay with 39 points (more likely). Likely to get the 24MP sensor used by the D5200 (the D7000 and D5100 shared the same sensor). I doubt anything else will change.
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  • BrainBeatBrainBeat Posts: 54Member
    What the D7x00 has as features I think will somewhat depend on if there is going to be a replacement to the 300s (400 or 9000?). If the product lines are merged as many have rumored the 7x00 I would think will likely be better specked than if it is just the replacement of the 7000. Then again most of the rumored specs are pointing to just an upgrade.

    Looking at these rumored specs I do kind of feel they are a little too close to that of the d5200 as they will likely share the same sensor, AF system and processor with only the screens, AF motor, controls, shape, likely FPS and buffer and 2 SD slots.
  • KnockKnockKnockKnock Posts: 382Member
    Historically, to date, every time Nikon added more MP, it also slightly improved in high ISO noise performance. Considering downscaling possibilities, and the early DXOmark numbers on the similar D5200, I would expect it to have almost a 1-stop improvement over the D5100/D7000. Per pixel, maybe less, but due to the higher resolution and improved noise reduction processing, a marginal but notable improvement. Speculation of course, I would be surprised if they could do any better.
    D7100, D60, 35mm f/1.8 DX, 50mm f/1.4, 18-105mm DX, 18-55mm VR II, Sony RX-100 ii
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,200Moderator
    More speculation with no basis in knowledge:

    The old 12mp sensors were used in the D5000, D90, D300 & D300s but the pro versions had better Hi ISO performance than the consumer bodies IIRC. Whether it was because the sensors were not the same or because the internal noise control was better, I don't know. So, if they use the 24mp sensor in a 'D400', I expect it to be better than the D5200/'D7200'. Is that a reasonable assumption?
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,176Member
    I think i remember that the D90 sensor tested marginally better than the D300/s..
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  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,200Moderator
    What were the release dates of those bodies (D90, D300 & D300s)? If what you say is true, maybe they improved something between models.
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  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    edited February 2013
    The release date are
    D300 2007
    D90 2008
    D300s 2009
    all have have 12 mp
    The D7000 came out in 2010 with 16 mp

    If the D7200 has, as rumored, 24 mp
    it is going to make the D300s look even more dated and difficult sell

    IF they are going to a make a D400, it would make sense to announce it before the D7200

    Could the D7000 and the D300s merge ? it is difficult to see how
    the D7000 is aimed at the consumer part time professional
    the D300 was aimed at the full time professional
    at lot of professions full time and part time, now use FX and that is exactly what Nikon want
    if as suggested, the the D7200 comes out next, I think we cant forget a D300s replacement

    I think the wildlife guys desperate for a high end DX camera will go over to Canon and I think Nikon may be happy for them to to go; Canon already dominate the wild life market

    Nikon will concentrate on
    coolpix P&S
    Expending the Nikon1 range
    Budget DSLRs such as the D5200 and D3200
    Professional DSLRs D800, D4 and the maybe a D4+
    For those who what a prosumer camera, they have the D600



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  • TaoTeJaredTaoTeJared Posts: 1,306Member
    edited February 2013
    I haven't updated this, but still had it on Flickr.
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    D800, D300, D50(ir converted), FujiX100, Canon G11, Olympus TG2. Nikon lenses - 24mm 2.8, 35mm 1.8, (5 in all)50mm, 60mm, 85mm 1.8, 105vr, 105 f2.5, 180mm 2.8, 70-200vr1, 24-120vr f4. Tokina 12-24mm, 16-28mm, 28-70mm (angenieux design), 300mm f2.8. Sigma 15mm fisheye. Voigtlander R2 (olive) & R2a, Voigt 35mm 2.5, Zeiss 50mm f/2, Leica 90mm f/4. I know I missed something...
  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,396Moderator
    Thanks, TTJ. I wanted to suggest this be sent to Nikon.....LOL
    Oh, when you update this...can you lighten the red areas.... old eyes have difficulty reading this....more LOL
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  • TaoTeJaredTaoTeJared Posts: 1,306Member
    edited February 2013
    the the D7200 comes out next, I think we cant forget a D300s replacement
    I think that needs to be reversed, the D7xxx is gone, or becomes the D5xxx and the D3xxx becomes the new 5xxx series. What people want in the D400 DX is the pro functions and pro body, not the D7000. The only things the D7000 has over my D300 is slightly more resolution and maybe 1 stop in ISO and of course video. AF was better in the D300, metering was better, as well as the pro customization. If you wanted a beefy D5000 you got the D7000. If you wanted a pro DX we got nothing.
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    D800, D300, D50(ir converted), FujiX100, Canon G11, Olympus TG2. Nikon lenses - 24mm 2.8, 35mm 1.8, (5 in all)50mm, 60mm, 85mm 1.8, 105vr, 105 f2.5, 180mm 2.8, 70-200vr1, 24-120vr f4. Tokina 12-24mm, 16-28mm, 28-70mm (angenieux design), 300mm f2.8. Sigma 15mm fisheye. Voigtlander R2 (olive) & R2a, Voigt 35mm 2.5, Zeiss 50mm f/2, Leica 90mm f/4. I know I missed something...
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,200Moderator
    Ok, thanks for those dates guys. In that case, it doesn't make any sense that the D90 would have a better sensor than the D300s. I suspect if that really is the case there must be a wide manufacturing spread on some parts which aligned to make a good D90 or bad D300s. I would still be surprised that there was not a designed in advantage (or production selection of best sensors) for the D300/s.

    @Tao: Like I said somewhere else or before, I recently saw some wildlife, BIF and landscape work done with a D300s that lacked nothing in quality so if anybody is going to chuck out their D300/s, chuck it my way! :P
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  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 958Member
    @sevencrossing: I do NOT agree that Canon dominates the wildlife photography field. I do a lot of that and once in awhile i go to a spot where a lot of photo pros are. I recently spent 16 days at an event (not wildlife) where there were many pro cameras, and thousands of amateur cameras. At all of these situations there were a lot of Nikons and fewer Canons. In the cases where I have gone to stadium sports events it seems to be mostly Canon.

    I have seen D300s that was very impressive. I did sell my D700 as our need for video was becoming larger than our demand for stills. I have been very happy with D7000 video and still overall! B&H Photo and Video sales people seem to think the D7000 current sale price and dependability is maybe a way better deal than waiting for a D7000 replacement. Since a D7200 body or whatever it turns out to be will not be very expensive I will just buy one providing the reviews are positive.
  • kyoshinikonkyoshinikon Posts: 411Member
    @sevencrossing: I do NOT agree that Canon dominates the wildlife photography field. I do a lot of that and once in awhile i go to a spot where a lot of photo pros are. I recently spent 16 days at an event (not wildlife) where there were many pro cameras, and thousands of amateur cameras. At all of these situations there were a lot of Nikons and fewer Canons. In the cases where I have gone to stadium sports events it seems to be mostly Canon.

    I have seen D300s that was very impressive. I did sell my D700 as our need for video was becoming larger than our demand for stills. I have been very happy with D7000 video and still overall! B&H Photo and Video sales people seem to think the D7000 current sale price and dependability is maybe a way better deal than waiting for a D7000 replacement. Since a D7200 body or whatever it turns out to be will not be very expensive I will just buy one providing the reviews are positive.

    I agree with Davey... 90% of the wildlife shooters I have personally met or known use one of 2 cameras... The D300 and the D300s. Nikon is taking a huge risk. The d7200 is fully capable of replacing both if they were to fix those 3 things I mentioned and beefed up the size. Many say the D200 leans pro but if you were to use the 2 cameras side by side the only thing the D200 has over the D7000 is size and a Pc sync port. Image quality is miles better, the toolset is expanded and all but one of the functions from the d200 are accessible by buttons on the body of the D7000, the performance either equals of is better on the D7000 and even though I complain about the buffer the D7000 doesn't choke up anywhere near as bad as the D200 when it is full and clears the buffer muck quicker on same rated cards (both snadisk extreme III 30mbps 16gb, Cf in the D200 and Sd in the D7000)...

    It means one thing. If the D7000 can outperform a camera 2 generations back the D7100 will likely do the same...

    “To photograph is to hold one’s breath, when all faculties converge to capture fleeting reality. It’s at that precise moment that mastering an image becomes a great physical and intellectual joy.” - Bresson
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 958Member
    One problem with a D7200 is that for some time it will be considerably be more money than a D7000 without a verdict as to how much better and as Mike Gunter pointed out very well is what gremlins will be under the hood of the D7000 replacement. I am going to buy the D7000 replacement since I feel that the Expeed 3 processor alone will make a big difference. I do think the D7000 replacement will be called D7200 but that to me and I believe most buyers does not matter.
  • MikeGunterMikeGunter Posts: 543Member
    Hi all,

    My D7000 is in the shop for CLA, after I was prompted to check the shutter actuations, north of 100K, and like my bones, sounding crunchy, and reading the manual, I thought it wise since I'm in hiatus to have it tuned up - the AF seems to be acting up rather randomly.

    Nonetheless, it seems to me that the D7000 is the best compromise in cost/performance in any camera in the Nikon lineup. Pony up more, get more, but how much more?

    I have a FX jones as much as anyone else, and some prime lenses that would work great, but my zoom lenses are DX, so my easy shooting works for DX, and frankly I like easy.

    Quality control hasn't been Nikon's strong suite lately and as Spray and Pray's tagline notes, quit the gripes and use what you got and make pictures. That's likely the best path. The D7xxxx could have god only knows what. I'm willing to let someone else find it and fix it, and if I can live with out, then get it.

    Same with the D600s. ;-)

    My best,

    Mike
  • adamzadamz Posts: 842Moderator
    guys please remember abouth D7100, why everyone writes about D7200 when there's not D7100 on the market?
    anyway, whatever we gonna see please don't expect to se a price tag at the same level as D7000 is right now. it's gonna be pretty much at the same level D7000 was when it was launched.
  • shadowlandsshadowlands Posts: 8Member
    I own a D300. I love it. But as soon as the D7000 is replaced, I'll pick up a D7000 at a steal of a deal to accompany my D300.

    Long live DX!!!
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  • donaldejosedonaldejose Posts: 3,327Member
    edited February 2013
    Mike Gunther: Yes, I agree the D7000 is the best "bang for the buck" in the Nikon line-up and most likely its replacement will be also (as was the D90). So the D7000 replacement will be the best "bang for the buck" for someone who expects to shoot less than 150,000 photos over the next 4 years. The only way the D400 could beat it for such a "normal" user is if that D400 offers a substantial improvement in image quality and that seems unlikely. However, if you plan to shoot over 300,000 photos over the next 4 years buying one D400 might be a better "bang for the buck" than buying two D7000s for a "heavy" user even if the D400's image quality is not substantially better.
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  • tcole1983tcole1983 Posts: 981Member
    From me I don't feel the need for me to go FX and don't have the funds for the transition. I am happy with my lenses and they are all compatible with DX. The new DX releases up to this point don't offer me the additional features I would like and nothing much over my D5000 except some sensor performance. So I am still looking for that "better" DX body. I too fear the qa/qc problems witht the new bodies though. My D5000 has preformed flawlessly with no oil, dust or other problems. I know a D7000 is an upgrade for me still but I hate to buy behind when upgrading.
    D5200, D5000, S31, 18-55 VR, 17-55 F2.8, 35 F1.8G, 105 F2.8 VR, 300 F4 AF-S (Previously owned 18-200 VRI, Tokina 12-24 F4 II)
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,200Moderator
    " I know a D7000 is an upgrade for me still but I hate to buy behind when upgrading."

    You should have bought a D7000 two years ago! :))

    Seriously though, you know I think you do good images with your D5K.
    Always learning.
  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    edited February 2013
    guys please remember about D7100, why everyone writes about D7200 when there's not D7100 on the market? .
    given that it might also be a replacement for the D300s
    It might be called the D7400

    ;)
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  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,396Moderator
    edited February 2013
    Paulohn, Member, asked.....
    I currently own a D90, which I consider a great camera. However, I have seen improvements in the D7000 that I believe could be very suitable for me, such as better quality at higher iso settings and more autofocus points (also a sturdier build). But as the D7x00 seems to be just around the corner, I am waiting to see it.
    Is there any chance Nikon uses a 24mp sensor that will perform poorer than the current 16mp in low light conditions? (Does the 24mp sensor in D5200 perform better than the 16mp in the D7000 in low light conditions?).
    Does anyone expect more than 39 af points? (Although 39 is a huge upgrade compared to the 11 in the D90, I would like to know).
    What is the expected price? Usd 1200 for the body only is realistic?
    What other features are people expecting?
    Thanks.
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  • tcole1983tcole1983 Posts: 981Member
    " I know a D7000 is an upgrade for me still but I hate to buy behind when upgrading."

    You should have bought a D7000 two years ago! :))

    Seriously though, you know I think you do good images with your D5K.
    I have been collecting glass :P

    I know options wise the D7000 is an upgrade but performance wise I didn't think I would gain a ton. I have been happy with my D5000 but I think I am at the level of some of the more "professional" features now. But I think there should be both significant gain in options and performance in this next release.
    D5200, D5000, S31, 18-55 VR, 17-55 F2.8, 35 F1.8G, 105 F2.8 VR, 300 F4 AF-S (Previously owned 18-200 VRI, Tokina 12-24 F4 II)
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,200Moderator
    Well, it may be make your mind up time as Amazon is out of the D7000 so you opportunity to buy a sorted camera is going away... ;)
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