200-500f5.6 Priced Under $1,400: Are You Excited?

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  • CEBluecloudsCEBlueclouds Posts: 1,943Member
    Can you tweak the bottom cushion in the Lowepro case? I did that many years ago to a Nikon black leather case. Removed the cushion and installed my own custom made thinner cushion.
    Would check it out photobug

  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    @haroldp - nice DSLR and long lens case. Looking for a case just to hold that long lens.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • shootnikonfxshootnikonfx Posts: 9Member
    The Lowepro is a little smug but fits just right...padding is also excellent...I suspect better than the kinesis if reviews can be relied on...
    Would it be too tight with a LensCoat in place on the 200-500?

  • CEBluecloudsCEBlueclouds Posts: 1,943Member
    The Lowepro is a little smug but fits just right...padding is also excellent...I suspect better than the kinesis if reviews can be relied on...
    Would it be too tight with a LensCoat in place on the 200-500?

    Yes it also fits well with the lens coat on.. Thats how i did mine..
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    Today I walked into my local camera dealer and he had the 200-500mm lens in stock. He had three beautiful lens laid next to each other on the shelf - The Sigma 150-600mm, the Tamron 150-600mm, and the new Nikon 200-500mm.

    So I did a side-by-side comparison and then put the Nikon 200-500 on a D7200. All I can say is I am sold. This is a very very nice lens. Love the larger diameter and the feel and the longer tripod leg. Nice hand grip.

    Even played with cases and the LowePro fits the Tamron and Nikon lens beautifully. The diameter is a little tight with the lens hood but it will work.

    I feel NAS coming on and am now plotting how to fund this in 2016.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    The Regional Nikon representative walked into the store while I was examining and shooting the D7200 and 200-500 lens and he called out asking how do you like the len? Later we were talking and when this lens was introduced to the regional representatives they were asked what price point the lens was at. Ranged from middle $2K to $3,200. They all jaw dropped when they were told the price. Then they got excited. He said lots of smiles.

    I get to see him in 9 days and will talk more about the 200-500 and the D5 DSLR.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • SnowleopardSnowleopard Posts: 244Member
    edited December 2015
    I haven't been following this much are the focus problems fixed ? and are there any other issues other than the fact that it is a slow lens?
    Post edited by Snowleopard on
    ||COOLPIX 5000|●|D70|●|D700|●|D810|●|AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED|●|AF Nikkor 20mm f/2.8D|●|AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D|●|AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.4G|●|AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f/2.8D|●|AF-S Micro Nikkor 60mm f/2.8G ED|●|AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G IF-ED (Silver)|●|AF-S Teleconverter TC-20E III|●|PB-6 Bellows|●|EL-NIKKOR 50mm f/2.8||
  • BVSBVS Posts: 440Member
    I haven't been following this much are the focus problems fixed ? and are there any other issues other than the fact that it is a slow lens?
    There were focus problems?

    D7100, 85 1.8G, 50 1.8G, 35 1.8G DX, Tokina 12-28 F4, 18-140, 55-200 VR DX
  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    That was my first thought, are you thinking of the VR issue with the 300/f4?
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    I haven't been following this much are the focus problems fixed ? and are there any other issues other than the fact that it is a slow lens?
    Are you sure you have the correct lens? I have not heard of any focusing problems.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,494Member
    I believe there was a recall from Nikon, to update the firmware to fix a focusing issue which occurred if you tried to zoom and focus at the same time.
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • shootnikonfxshootnikonfx Posts: 9Member
    There was in fact a Nikon recall on the 200-500 dealing with focus. Sent mine in and returned in a week. I actually never saw the issue but sent it anyway
  • SnowleopardSnowleopard Posts: 244Member
    So, now that this lens has been out and put through the paces, is it still a good value.... I see the other threads with sample photo's and I am seeing allot of "high ISO noise" or little speck's if you will that look like modern noise, basically the images are not that clean when looking at the 100% zooms.

    Are all the focus issues resolved, are there any other issues?
    ||COOLPIX 5000|●|D70|●|D700|●|D810|●|AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED|●|AF Nikkor 20mm f/2.8D|●|AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D|●|AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.4G|●|AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f/2.8D|●|AF-S Micro Nikkor 60mm f/2.8G ED|●|AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G IF-ED (Silver)|●|AF-S Teleconverter TC-20E III|●|PB-6 Bellows|●|EL-NIKKOR 50mm f/2.8||
  • haroldpharoldp Posts: 984Member
    My only complaint is that Nikon did not have this lens 5 years ago.

    It is my go to lens for hand held birding.
    D810, D3x, 14-24/2.8, 50/1.4D, 24-70/2.8, 24-120/4 VR, 70-200/2.8 VR1, 80-400 G, 200-400/4 VR1, 400/2.8 ED VR G, 105/2 DC, 17-55/2.8.
    Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.

  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,494Member
    I ran into a few photographers yesterday who were shooting this this lens, they seemed satisfied. I'm thinking about it, but paying off my new car comes first!
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • manhattanboymanhattanboy Posts: 1,003Member
    So, now that this lens has been out and put through the paces, is it still a good value.... I see the other threads with sample photo's and I am seeing allot of "high ISO noise" or little speck's if you will that look like modern noise, basically the images are not that clean when looking at the 100% zooms.

    Are all the focus issues resolved, are there any other issues?
    High ISO noise is likely from the sensor and not the lens. The best way to tell lens performance is at ISO 100 shots. Zoom in past 125% on a DX shot or past 200% on an FX shot. Loss of sharpness at those magnifications are lens related assuming the photag shot with a high enough shutter speed.
  • picturetedpictureted Posts: 153Member
    edited January 2016
    I've been consistently pleased with mine. It hand-holds better than my old 300/4 AF-S and is very sharp at all focal lengths at f5.6 with beautiful bokeh. I've gotten decent hand held shots at 1/45 and 500mm because of it's VR. The old 300 seemed to need a tripod.
    Post edited by pictureted on
    pictureted at flickr
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    Question moved over from another thread that can be answered here:
    I'm currently using a 300mm f4 with a TCE14E-II on a D800 for bird photography.
    I'm severely tempted to get a 200-500mm f5.6 for the extra reach (and the VR, given UK weather).
    But I'm worried about the image quality difference. I used to use a Sigma 170-500 f5.6, and you can see the image soften before your eyes as you zoom in.
    Obviously if I had any sense I'd trade in the 300mm in p/x for the 200-500, but would I regret it?
    I need a 600mm f4 - but that's not gonna happen unless I get divorced
    Always learning.
  • haroldpharoldp Posts: 984Member
    @trolley:

    I ran some test charts on these combo's

    The 300/4 pf vr with tc-14eIII (420mm f5.6) and the 200-500 at 500 f5.6 are very close. Resolution seems equal, 300 pf combo has very slightly better contrast.

    300pf alone is very slightly sharper wide open than the 200-500 5.6, but if you crop to same FOV, than the 200-500 5.6 is slightly better.

    The 200-500 5.6 is also very acceptable with tc-14eII as a 700mm f8, but better stopped down 1/2 stop.

    There is not enough difference between the tc-14eII and tc-14eIII to matter except in the corners, which are irrelevant for wildlife work.

    If your primary interest is birding than the 200-500 has some real advantages.

    For theater or general 'walking around', the 300/4 pf is outstanding. It also works well with the tc-20eIII as a 600/f8.

    If I am 'birding' from a fixed location, and my main kit is 400/2.8 with tc-20eII on a tripod, then my 'closer in' camera will mount the 300/4.

    If I am 'birding' walking around with one camera hand held (or monopod), then I will
    mount the 200-500.

    Regards ... H
    D810, D3x, 14-24/2.8, 50/1.4D, 24-70/2.8, 24-120/4 VR, 70-200/2.8 VR1, 80-400 G, 200-400/4 VR1, 400/2.8 ED VR G, 105/2 DC, 17-55/2.8.
    Nikon N90s, F100, F, lots of Leica M digital and film stuff.

  • dissentdissent Posts: 1,355Member
    nice way to describe the comparisons haroldp. Thanks for posting it.
    - Ian . . . [D7000, D7100; Nikon glass: 35 f1.8, 85 f1.8, 70-300 VR, 105 f2.8 VR, 12-24 f4; 16-85 VR, 300 f4D, 14E-II TC, SB-400, SB-700 . . . and still plenty of ignorance]
  • trolleytrolley Posts: 207Member
    @haroldp..Thanks for that.
    Looks like I'm going to be spending money in the next couple of months
  • proudgeekproudgeek Posts: 1,422Member
    edited January 2016
    I'm going to throw another POV out there (while apologizing for taking this off topic). Like you I'd love the 600 f/4 but can't justify it. What I did do a few years back is buy a used 300 f/2.8, which I pair with a TC20. Call it a poor man's 600 f/5.6. The fact that I shoot it on a D810 gives me a little extra cropping ability. Used 300s in decent shape can be had if you're willing to do some leg work. While it's not as sharp as a true 600, I think it's pretty good (see my picture on today's PAD for an example). And yes, I know it's not as cheap as the 200-500. So while it may not get you divorced, it may result in your spending a few weeks sleeping on the couch, if you're willing to do that.

    Edit: I would add that another benefit is that for those times you don't need that kind of reach, you have a 300 f/2.8 to shoot with, which is a pretty awesome piece of glass. Great for sports where you can get close enough.
    Post edited by proudgeek on
  • manhattanboymanhattanboy Posts: 1,003Member
    @haroldp..Thanks for that.
    Looks like I'm going to be spending money in the next couple of months
    I think you are using the old 300 f4 for which the 200-500 will be easier to adjust to given that it is also big/heavy like the old 300f4. My recommendation is just do yourself a favor and do not touch or look at the new 300f4 PF as once you realize how tiny it is, you might prefer that over other options :))
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    +1 manhattanboy on the 300F4. It's a terrific lens.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • trolleytrolley Posts: 207Member
    I have no intention of looking at the 300mm f4 PF - I'm not that stupid
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