D7300 Pre-discussion

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  • retreadretread Posts: 574Member
    Dual UHS-II would be nice dual XQD would be better.
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,476Member
    I suspect you won't be seeing XQD on a consumer level camera any time soon.
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  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    Plus 5-6fps @ 24mp would be easily handled by UHS-II. Make the buffer big enough and is even less of an issue.
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,055Member
    SnapBridge seems to be much of the problem, not the solution. The other details yes, or maybe. But initially the price will be hefty!
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,659Member
    Give me a larger view finder like the D500 and more AF points and the key, spread them out across the screen. Those are my Christmas wishes.
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  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,055Member
    I like Photobugs suggestions!
  • manhattanboymanhattanboy Posts: 1,003Member
    DaveyJ said:

    I like Photobugs suggestions!

    Those are in the D500.
    I think the only things that the D7300 is likely to get are snapbridge and 4K video. A touchscreen is a possibility as well, but Nikon will likely try to keep their margins as high as possible by keeping product costs as low as possible. The 7100->7200 transition was minor, and probably the 7200->7300 transition will be the same. The only dramatic transition has been from the 7000->7100 where both the sensor and AF saw significant changes.
  • BVSBVS Posts: 440Member

    DaveyJ said:

    I like Photobugs suggestions!

    Those are in the D500.
    I think the only things that the D7300 is likely to get are snapbridge and 4K video. A touchscreen is a possibility as well, but Nikon will likely try to keep their margins as high as possible by keeping product costs as low as possible. The 7100->7200 transition was minor, and probably the 7200->7300 transition will be the same. The only dramatic transition has been from the 7000->7100 where both the sensor and AF saw significant changes.
    I think D7300 needs something more than just SnapBridge and 4K to compete effectively with 80D and A6300/6500.

    D7200's only real advantage vs. 80D is a bit better image sensor with no AA filter. Nearly everything else 80D is (on paper at least) on par with or better than D7200.

    Three years ago, when I was a new parent looking to purchase my first DSLR, and it was D7100 vs. 70D there was more difference between the two. I ultimately went with D7100 for the better overall stills capabilities - image quality, resolution, AF, metering - in exchange for giving up video capabilities and DPAF. If I were in a similar situation today and having to choose between D7200 and 80D, with 80D's (again on paper at least) improved image quality, resolution, AF and metering, I feel I'd be more likely to go with 80D - giving up a bit of stills quality for a seemingly more well rounded camera.
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  • donaldejosedonaldejose Posts: 3,413Member
    See the main blog about a new D7xx full frame body next year with a spectacular low light sensor. If Nikon has developed such technology they could also make that sensor in DX format and they could have a DX high ISO champ. Maybe put such a sensor into a D500x or D500LL (for low light version)? Or it could go into a D7300 or Nikon could create a D8000 series for such a sensor. It will be interesting to see what Nikon produces in 2017.
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,659Member
    Photobug said:

    Give me a larger view finder like the D500 and more AF points and the key, spread them out across the screen. Those are my Christmas wishes.

    This still can be done with a minor price change. That makes the D500 for those that demand/need fast shutter speeds for BIF and sport event coverage.
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  • manhattanboymanhattanboy Posts: 1,003Member
    The spread out AF points on the D500 require a second processor. The larger viewfinder required a reworked and dampened larger mirror module or else the slap would cause vibrations on the sensor. The things you want are unlikely to come to the 7300 unless they jack the price up. Prepare to be underwhelmed.
    But on the flip side current 7xxx owners should be happy they still have a great camera
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,055Member
    I am trying to find donaldejose's full frame, low light sensor thread he refers to.
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,055Member

    See the main blog about a new D7xx full frame body next year with a spectacular low light sensor. If Nikon has developed such technology they could also make that sensor in DX format and they could have a DX high ISO champ. Maybe put such a sensor into a D500x or D500LL (for low light version)? Or it could go into a D7300 or Nikon could create a D8000 series for such a sensor. It will be interesting to see what Nikon produces in 2017.

    Where is this listed?

  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,462Moderator
    Go to the Blog to see those topics Davey.
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  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,181Member
    I think "next year" is way too soon. I would not expect that sensor to be in a camera for at least 5 years, probably 8-10 years..
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  • retreadretread Posts: 574Member
    I have been hoping for the focus system and metering from the D500. The 24mp sensor is fine. This alone is not enough to interest me. Someone interested in video may be interested but that is not me.

    •20MP sensor (same sensor from the D500)
    •4K video
    •51 points AF

    I have always thought of the D7200 as the D810 of the DX family, this is a departure from that thought.

  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,476Member
    edited February 2017
    Kind of makes sense to turn the D7300 into a mini D500, with lower end AF and the like. That makes the D7300 more like the mid-range DX cameras of the past. The D500 is the D810 of the DX line.

    It also means they can keep the D7200 on the shelf and push it out due to the higher resolution sensor. The D7300 might make up for the lower resolution by offering more buffer space, that people have been crying for in this space for a long time.
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  • donaldejosedonaldejose Posts: 3,413Member
    Hopefully, along with the D500 sensor Nikon will include the image processing software from the D500. It is really good. Nothing wrong with using ISO 1,250 for available light portraits. I have been doing so recently and I suspect I could go higher without significant loss of image quality.
  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,659Member
    @donaldejose - agree. Those would be good features and would probably bump up the price by $150 to $200. I really would love to see more AF points spread out like the D500 as I mentioned in December. Nikon needs to keep a distance in price between the D7300 and D500 so they can't go crazy in giving us everything we want.

    Since the sensor in the D7200 was so good, I have got to expect that by going with the D500 sensor we are going to see some of those features. Lots to speculate on. They need a bridge between the D5600 and D500. I am curious to see where they put the D7300 from a price perspective.

    My D7100 is good and use it for macro and telephoto pictures. The D7200 did not offer enough to move up so the D7300 will have to be evaluated on what it provides and how that fits my requirements.

    I am holding money for the new D760 and will be making the big plunge to the 70-200 E FL lens this year so I doubt the D7300 fits into my spending allotment.
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  • PistnbrokePistnbroke Posts: 2,344Member
    I am not buying a camera with less MP so they can get lost .
  • donaldejosedonaldejose Posts: 3,413Member
    Hopefully, you won't be disappointed in a replacement for the D810 released this year. That should be the camera for you.
  • retreadretread Posts: 574Member
    PB_PM said:

    Kind of makes sense to turn the D7300 into a mini D500, with lower end AF and the like. That makes the D7300 more like the mid-range DX cameras of the past. The D500 is the D810 of the DX line.

    The D500 seems more like a DX version to the D5 to me.

    With no more information than we have now the D7200 looks more appealing to me but I also have a D500 and do love it.
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,476Member
    retread said:


    PB_PM said:

    Kind of makes sense to turn the D7300 into a mini D500, with lower end AF and the like. That makes the D7300 more like the mid-range DX cameras of the past. The D500 is the D810 of the DX line.

    The D500 seems more like a DX version to the D5 to me.
    There has not been one of those since the D2Hs and D2Xs were discontinued with the release of the D3 in 2006. Like the D300 and D700 were siblings, so will be the D500 to the D810 replacement.
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  • PistnbrokePistnbroke Posts: 2,344Member
    If we look at the D500 when the fat photographer dismantled it we see its the first camera where everything is on one camea shaped circuit board ..so we see reduced production ( robot) and assembly costs (people). Nikon are just using whats in the parts bin ( again ) and using the R & D put into the d500 to produce another camera.
    No doubt the D760 will use the D5 chip. Software mods will adjust the feature set.
    The only pig in my arsenel of 4 nikons is the noisy D800 but I am not buying less MP or Pro Controls.....Canon have just lost the 18mp sensor and gone to 24 ...20 no chance.
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