Nikon D7200: Lens

2017uk2017uk Posts: 4Member
Hi,

I have recently bought "Nikon D7200"

I have bought "18-105mm VR Lens" and "85mm prime f/1.8"

Are these two lenses are going to be the same nearly?

Should I return either one of the lenses?

I thought;
18-105mm VR Lens will be used for travel/holidays
85mm f/1.8 will be used for indoor portraits/kids/family

Thanks in advance for your time and comments

Comments

  • webmastadjwebmastadj Posts: 113Member
    Congrats on your purchase! The 18-105mm from what I have read is a great walking around lens and should treat you well on the holidays. In regards to the 85mm f/1.8 and your use case of indoor portraits, you might find that the 85mm is a little long for indoor locations lacking room especially for DX. I personally don't have the 85mm prime yet but the 85mm f/1.4 is on my list. Currently I use the 50mm f/1.8 and the DX 35mm f/1.8 for indoors and low light. I find the combination of the two allows me to shoot in small environments without an issue. Would I sell the 85mm f/1.8? I personally would not. I feel the three primes someone should have starting are the 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm. Some may have different opinions but for my shooting style, I see those as my go to prime focal lengths when shooting portraits. If you find yourself not using the 85mm, you can always sell it. I like to believe one of the advantages of lenses, they hold their value better than cars, sometimes.
  • 2017uk2017uk Posts: 4Member
    Thanks for your views.
    What I get from your reply is that I should keep both lenses in use and experience the photographs for some time"
    I din't want the duplication of lenses actually!!
  • webmastadjwebmastadj Posts: 113Member
    edited August 31
    If you are speaking in focal lengths, then I can see where you are coming from. But keep in mind, although 18-105mm covers the 35, 50, 85 focal lengths, they are not duplicate lenses. You are talking about a f/3.5-5.6 zoom compared to a prime f/1.8. You will let in more light with the prime and the IQ would be higher do to less glass elements, hence why indoor shooting will work every well with the primes.

    If your goal is just to cover more focal lengths, you could trade both of them in and purchase the 18-300mm. That would be the "one" lens that would cover the most used focal lengths. It isn't the best at any one thing but gives you the focal length range you may desire.
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  • KnockKnockKnockKnock Posts: 346Member
    I had the 18-105. Excellent overall focal length coverage and good quality. Great value. Shooting outdoors at f/8, you might not notice the difference between the two unless you look carefully.

    However, the 85mm f/1.8 gives you f/1.8-5.0, which is a lot of flexibility, and the _look_ of pictures taken at these apertures will be different. You get to isolate subjects better. I find it a much more artistic lens to use - you compose the photo differently when you have a shallow depth of field.

    Keep them both! Yes it's a little bit high on the telephoto side for portraits, but you can back up a few more feet. Many pro portrait photographers prefer this perspective.
    D7100, D60, 35mm f/1.8 DX, 50mm f/1.4, 18-105mm DX, 18-55mm VR II, Sony RX-100 ii
  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 2,201Member
    If you are shooting indoors for portraiture, you might consider the 35 1.8 DX. This is a bargain lens more suited to indoor use. Especially the 1.8 aperture, which will allow you to shoot in light your zoom cannot handle.

    Unless you are in big indoor spaces, the 85 on DX is to long except for shoulder shots. My 85 is limiting even of FX. I usually use a 50, which will same as the 35 on your DX camera.
  • 2017uk2017uk Posts: 4Member
    Thanks webmastadj, KnockKnock, and WestEndFoto for your comments.
    Very useful.

    Still not clear in one point;
    For indoor portraits, I will mostly shoot kids playing from a distance of 2 to 10 meters (in rooms / lounge) or when smiling/ activities portraits.
    For this purpose, which prime will be an ideal (35mm f/1.8 or 84mm f/1.8)?


  • KnockKnockKnockKnock Posts: 346Member
    2m is definitely too close for 85mm unless you want just their head/shoulders. 10m would be fine. I find the 35mm a little too wide. 50mm is good and you can get the f/1.8 cheaply. I'd say sit on what you have. Experiment with the 18-140, and that will give you the experience to know what focal length is best.
    D7100, D60, 35mm f/1.8 DX, 50mm f/1.4, 18-105mm DX, 18-55mm VR II, Sony RX-100 ii
  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 2,201Member
    That is good advice KnockKnock.
  • webmastadjwebmastadj Posts: 113Member
    Agree with @KnockKnock. Use the 18-140mm to determine which focal length you would need. I used this method before buying a lens as well.
  • dissentdissent Posts: 1,147Member
    +1 for the 35/1.8 on the D7200. My 7200 seems to love this lens, but results were less favorable on the D7100. The 7100/35mm combo just probably needed some adjustment from Nikon, but now I don't have to worry about that anymore.
    - Ian . . . [D7000, D7100; Nikon glass: 35 f1.8, 85 f1.8, 70-300 VR, 105 f2.8 VR, 12-24 f4; 16-85 VR, 300 f4D, 14E-II TC, SB-400, SB-700 . . . and still plenty of ignorance]
  • FreezeActionFreezeAction Posts: 403Member

    2m is definitely too close for 85mm unless you want just their head/shoulders. 10m would be fine. I find the 35mm a little too wide. 50mm is good and you can get the f/1.8 cheaply. I'd say sit on what you have. Experiment with the 18-140, and that will give you the experience to know what focal length is best.

    Agree with @KnockKnock. Use the 18-140mm to determine which focal length you would need. I used this method before buying a lens as well.

    Total agreement. For most uses the 18-140mm doesn't come off of my D7200. I can use that setup for determining what focal length I need in a prime for any of my cropped sensor bodies or full frame. For doing kiddie events I use it rather than a prime unless significant money is being paid. Zooming with my feet is dangerous and sometimes impossible around active kids not posing on a set.

  • BVSBVS Posts: 241Member
    2017uk said:

    Hi,

    I have recently bought "Nikon D7200"

    I have bought "18-105mm VR Lens" and "85mm prime f/1.8"

    Are these two lenses are going to be the same nearly?

    Should I return either one of the lenses?

    I thought;
    18-105mm VR Lens will be used for travel/holidays
    85mm f/1.8 will be used for indoor portraits/kids/family

    Thanks in advance for your time and comments

    Keep the 85 1.8. It's sharp, will give you great background blur, and produce more 'wow' images than the zoom. The only problems are that it's a little long for indoors unless you have a large space, and the focus is a bit slower so not as good for fast action shots (e.g. kids running).

    I would give the 18-105 a try and see if you feel it's long enough for you for travel. If you feel like you want more range then the 18-140 is similarly good, and refurb ones can be had for around $300 or less (in the US anyway). Nikon also makes an 18-300 but I wasn't as thrilled with that lens. In any case, I'd definitely recommend keeping a do-all zoom. You don't want to miss a shot because you were busy changing lenses.

    If you want another lens for indoors/low light that you can use at closer ranges than the 85 1.8 I'd check out the 35 1.8 DX. It's wide enough that you can take 'portrait' shots of your kids across from you at a table making a mess of their dinner.

    I'm also quite fond of the 50 1.8, but unfortunately I end up not using it much since it tends to be either not wide enough or not long enough. It's very inexpensive though, so it may be worth having it to use on occasion.

    As others have said though, use the zoom for a while to get a feel for the different focal lengths. Eventually, you'll start telling yourself "I wish I had a lens that could do X", and then you'll know what to look for next.

    D7100, 85 1.8G, 50 1.8G, 35 1.8G DX, Tokina 12-28 F4, 18-140, 55-200 VR DX
  • 2017uk2017uk Posts: 4Member
    Thank you all for your time and comments.

    I loved using D7200 with 18-105 on my holidays and very much liked the clicks. Way better than my point n shoot camera. Very happy with the results. I will keep this for a while and see which prime I am going to need for indoor!

    Could anyone suggest how to treat raw images? and which free software to use?
    I used photoshop to treat few pics but found it time consuming! (possibly because I was using this for the first time!)
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