Switching about switching

richfisherrichfisher Posts: 6Member
Hi

First of all, I am not a troll. i have lots of Canon gear and just back from Africa. Friends with D500 got shot I missed with 7D M2. So I am thinking of switching.

- how often does nikon offer rebates?
- any good reviews on switching? I found a good one from Greg Basco (deep green)

Any members of the forum recently switched from Canon to Nikon (or other way)? Like to hear about your experience.

Thanks

Rich

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  • PistnbrokePistnbroke Posts: 1,556Member
    edited February 10
    its all about money/ how much Canon gear you got . Personally I don't like Canon .I say if they cannot get the on/off switch in the right place for one handed operation what else have they got wrong.
    Let us know how much gear you have
    Post edited by Pistnbroke on
  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 2,687Member

    Hi

    First of all, I am not a troll. i have lots of Canon gear and just back from Africa. Friends with D500 got shot I missed with 7D M2. So I am thinking of switching.

    - how often does nikon offer rebates?
    - any good reviews on switching? I found a good one from Greg Basco (deep green)

    Any members of the forum recently switched from Canon to Nikon (or other way)? Like to hear about your experience.

    Thanks

    Rich

    I won't be much help. I did switch to Nikon from another brand, but it was Bushnell, not Canon. I was 8 or 9 and I have been with Nikon ever since.
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 3,768Member

    Hi

    First of all, I am not a troll. i have lots of Canon gear and just back from Africa. Friends with D500 got shot I missed with 7D M2. So I am thinking of switching.

    - how often does nikon offer rebates?
    - any good reviews on switching? I found a good one from Greg Basco (deep green)

    Any members of the forum recently switched from Canon to Nikon (or other way)? Like to hear about your experience.

    Thanks

    Rich

    Without knowing what lenses you were using on the 7D MK2 vs the people with the D500, it's hard to say if it would help you or not.
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 5,810Moderator
    edited February 11
    Switching systems is something that lots of people do, no need to make apologies or worry about being labelled a troll, we are generally more grown up on this forum.

    My friend has a 7D2 and I really rate it. A guy on here sold up his Nikon stuff when they were late with the D500 and got a 7D2 then sold it all when the D500 came out citing problems with the 7D2's AF. In all honesty, I have seen that the 7D2 AF is so capable and complex that a lot of people just don't take the time to get to understand it so they can get the best from it. There is rumour of a 7D3 soon - if I were you I would see how that checks out.

    Have a look at this months Photo-A-Day, @Jimo is getting great results with the D500/200-500 combo.

    Good luck whatever you decide to do.
    Post edited by spraynpray on
    Always learning.
  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 1,931Member
    Honestly if you can't get decent results with one brand, you probably won't get it with the other brand if you're just generalizing. Switching brands won't make up for poor technique which is by and large the biggest problem.
    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
  • HankBHankB Posts: 211Member
    Nikon and Canon keep leapfrogging each other — at the moment, Nikon D500 and D850 do seem mostly ahead of Canon.

    How long till we move to the next leapfrog cycle?
  • heartyfisherheartyfisher Posts: 3,153Member
    I never recommend switching.. (...actually i always recommend switching to Nikon ! if I don't want to think about the logic of it!)

    having said that... my nikon d500 is pretty darn great...

    I have now given almost all my camera gear.. except for the d500 (and the set of lenses that work great with it for me.)
    Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome!
    Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.

  • BVSBVS Posts: 357Member
    @richfisher:

    I have lots of Canon gear and just back from Africa. Friends with D500 got shot I missed with 7D M2. So I am thinking of switching.

    What lenses were your friends using, and what lenses would you be looking to replace if you switched?

    - how often does nikon offer rebates?

    The biggest sales event with the biggest discounts the last couple of years has been during the Black Friday through Christmas period. There was also a good sale last year starting on April 30th which included the free grip deal. This was right before the 6DII release IIRC, so I'm not sure if they'll do it again this year or not.

    - any good reviews on switching? I found a good one from Greg Basco (deep green)

    I'm not sure. If I see any I'll let you know. Where are you located? As Greg said in his review, access to equipment and service can be an important consideration.
    D7100, 85 1.8G, 50 1.8G, 35 1.8G DX, Tokina 12-28 F4, 18-140, 55-200 VR DX
  • BVSBVS Posts: 357Member
    D7100, 85 1.8G, 50 1.8G, 35 1.8G DX, Tokina 12-28 F4, 18-140, 55-200 VR DX
  • richfisherrichfisher Posts: 6Member
    Hi Greg

    I am outside Chicago. I think there is a Nikon Authorized Service Center about 10 miles from my house - about a third of the distance as the Canon Service Center.
  • paulrpaulr Posts: 1,072Member
    Switching manufactures in one word is "Expensive" No matter how much you have cared for your equipment values are never what you think they are when parting with your old system. I am still in the process of selling all my Nikon gear, not because I have gone off Nikon simply because I have moved to DMF.I found dealers to be bandits when offering prices and most of my Nikon gear has been sold on Ebay. and the odd private sale. Selling as to be done patiently, and there are buyers who will pay, its just a matter of time, Thats fine if you can wait.I have sold now approx 60% of my gear and with Spring/summer things will go with time.
    Camera, Lens and Tripod and a few other Bits
  • richfisherrichfisher Posts: 6Member
    after going back and forth, starting the process I have opted not to switch. I'll wait to see if Canon does something "reasonable" with the 5D Mark V. Who knows, perhaps they will put a good AF system into it.
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 5,810Moderator
    The mk IV is already a great camera actually, unlike the II & III.
    Always learning.
  • framerframer Posts: 489Member
    IMHO if you own good pro glass, it's better to stay with that brand. Bodies today are throw away just upgrade to the next generation reusing that glass. My reason for staying with the F mount. I got glass I bought and use from the 70's to new this year.

    framer
  • KnockKnockKnockKnock Posts: 359Member
    x2 I have a colleague who's constantly moaning about her iPhone camera. Always wants to switch to the latest x-y-z because anecdotally, she's at a concert seeing others zoom in and take low light shots much better. Did she drop the other person's photo into an editing software, blow it up to 1:1 and compare? No. I have stopped just short of telling her it's not the camera, it's the operator.

    To put it more constructively - improving one's hit/miss ratio is more often a matter of training and practice practice practice. Like shooting free-throws (basketball). If you do it 3 times a year, your hit/miss ratio will be "worse" than if you practiced every day.

    Sure, feed the economy and get a better camera, some things will definitely improve. But don't forget to practice!

    NSXTypeR said:

    Honestly if you can't get decent results with one brand, you probably won't get it with the other brand if you're just generalizing. Switching brands won't make up for poor technique which is by and large the biggest problem.

    D7100, D60, 35mm f/1.8 DX, 50mm f/1.4, 18-105mm DX, 18-55mm VR II, Sony RX-100 ii
  • BabaGanoushBabaGanoush Posts: 252Member
    "To put it more constructively - improving one's hit/miss ratio is more often a matter of training and practice practice practice. Like shooting free-throws (basketball). If you do it 3 times a year, your hit/miss ratio will be "worse" than if you practiced every day."

    Is that you, Allen Iverson?
  • HikerHiker Posts: 197Member

    after going back and forth, starting the process I have opted not to switch. I'll wait to see if Canon does something "reasonable" with the 5D Mark V. Who knows, perhaps they will put a good AF system into it.

    A friend of mine does wildlife tours. He's a Canon guy. Don't remember his full frame camera but he does shoot with a 7d MK2. Amazing shots of Snow Leopards and Himalaya Wolves...all from a 1/2 mile away at 2000mm.
  • EricBowlesEricBowles Posts: 21Member
    Rich

    It really depends on what you photograph. Both companies have good camera systems, but different strengths. Right now, the Nikon AF system and high ISO performance are pretty amazing, and have been for the past 8-9 years. The Nikon ergonomics and button placement is a strength, but has a little learning curve.

    Probably the most well known switcher recently is Arthur Morris. Artie is a former Canon Explorer of Light and probably the top bird photographer in the world. He switched from Canon to Nikon several months ago and has written extensively about it in his blog posts. The big advantage he's seeing is a significant improvement in AF - especially for birds in flight. Artie has repeatedly said that he is "amazed by the images he is getting now that were simply not possible with his Canon gear". He qualifies it in terms of technique, but the statements are pretty remarkable.

    Artie sold a full kit of Canon pro glass and pro bodies. He has replaced it with a D500, a D850, and I think a D5. He's got lot of images with the Nikon 200-500 lens, but also has bought a full kit of pro lenses including the 600 f/4.

    Here is a link to Artie's blog. The blog post today was a bird in flight with the Nikon D850 and 80-400 lens.
    http://www.birdsasart-blog.com/

    If you are photographing a lot of wildlife or birds, the Nikon system does have some advantages. I have both a D500 and D850, as well as a wide range of pro level lenses and love my gear, but no manufacturer is perfect. I was an early buyer of the D800E that had a problem with the left AF sensor, but it was a minor issue that I waited almost a year to repair under warranty. I had an early D600 with the "shutter oil spot" issue, but considered it minor enough that I have not sent the camera to repair under warranty. I also had a D70 "green light of death" repaired under warranty. But I've also had no defects with two D300's, a D200, another D70, two D7000's, a D7200, and a D850 over more than 300,000 images.
  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,363Moderator
    At present, to switch in brands would be prohibitively expensive for me, but I suspect many might suggest going the new Nikon mirrorless route rather than a change from one DSLR to another.
    Msmoto, mod
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