They are excellent, but if I were given a choice, I would go for a D750 24mp sensor in the D850 with the upgrade in speed and low light performance that would give. Make no mistake, the D850 sensor is optimised for low ISO use at which it is very good but my pattern of usage would be better served by the camera I described above. I have to say that now I have my D850 set up for my needs, it is the best control layout ever.
Full frame mirrorless may be my next camera but that will not be for 5-7 years. Should be pretty good by then.
It also seems the "newer" crowd doesn't know about flickr. On FB groups I always see the posts "spam with your xxxx photos". I ask if they know what flickr is and they can do a search on camera, lens, bnw, etc. So its possible fewer people are now using flickr. I know I haven't uploaded much recently.
I don't shoot for others anymore. Just for myself. D850 is incredible but I dislike the loss of the built in flash. It's a lot to take a full size flash everywhere.
I bought an SB-400 for use with my D500 and it's small and better than a built-in.
I'm happy with my D810, but might consider the D850 if it drops in price or wait for the next iteration (D860?). I have no interest in mirror-less. The lack of an optical finder is a deal killer - I've never found a digital finder I liked.
I am getting far less interested in the mirrorless Nikon. It is NOT the camera for me. The last of a built in flash has hurt our use here of our D500. I favor the D7500 over the D500. If you think everyone is going to add the SB-400 you are wrong.
I am not interested in mirrorless at the moment. Maybe if it beats the D850 I will reconsider. lack of flash makes little difference to me. My main camera is a D500 but when I use flash it is usually a SB-5000 with a D7200 and on a grip to get the flash over the lens hood.
What I have is a Stroboframe press T. It works with a griped camera and rotates from landscape to portrait keeping the flash centered above the lens. Usually I am using the 24-70 when I use the flash and can keep the lens hood on. It will work with longer lenses though. I do wish however it would fold smaller to fit in a bag.
I looked at the Press T ..oh no far too big and with a side handle ...the one I listed is light and you still use the camera side grip as normal ..You need the flash above but as close to the lens as possible to reduce side shadows to zero Can use it if the camera has a vertical grip too as its adjustable ..I have 3 could not shoot a wedding without it . The flash is exactly centered over the lens for landscape or portrait. At the price its 10% of the Press T just go try one.
I have to say I am honestly staggered that this question is even thought about, let alone asked. The D850 has won pretty much every award there is since it came out and beats some very expensive MF bodies for IQ and yet the merest whiff of a new body from Nikon and it is forgotten in the rush to get the newest toy. Ay Caramba.
I have to say I am honestly staggered that this question is even thought about, let alone asked. The D850 has won pretty much every award there is since it came out and beats some very expensive MF bodies for IQ and yet the merest whiff of a new body from Nikon and it is forgotten in the rush to get the newest toy. Ay Caramba.
That's why I was surprised Nikon would come out with a mirrorless right of the bat that was so close the the 850. I thought the safer bet would be to do a 750-like camera only.
Just speculation but I am thinking that the D850 was so far down the development path that they decided to just go ahead and release it. It's clear that they made a decision to go all in on the mirrorless. What they do with the consumer side of the camera business will be interesting.
The move to mirrorless by Nikon seems to be more about reducing the costs to build cameras than taking advantage of the technology. At least that is what we have seen from Nikon so far (looking at the 1 series). We will know more about their future in a week.
D850 vs mirrorless is only an issue if you assume Nikon will suddenly dump DSLRs. Nikon absolutely MUST seriously commit to the new mirrorless technology. But they should — hopefully will — run parallel for a number of years.
Analogously, Nikon (and Canon) did not dump APS-C when full frame sensors became practicable. D500 is the latest proof of that.
But neither did they develop much in the way of lenses. But I am with Spraynpray. I am astounded that the question is even being asked. I would expect D8XX iterations for years to come.
Pistnbroke, I am not sure if you are joking. Is looking like something Soviet era Zenit would have designed for Red Army field use (looks like it can support artillery above the lens).
Popup for me would only be used as a trigger for other lighting. My 24-70 actually is in the way of it for closeup work. I'm glad Nikon removed it from the D850.
I know a high net worth individual that has a Fuji crop senser fixed prime. HIs sister, also a high net worth individual, has a Canon rebel. I can just imagine myself telling them that they are broke, can't afford a high end DSLR and are too stupid to earn a decent paycheck because they don't know Flickr inside out. He would say, "What the hell is Flickr and why do I care?" I would also find myself unemployable in my profession, which would make me unable to command a paycheck that can afford the purchase of a D850, let alone the rest of my gear. Perhaps I will refrain from that...….
Searcy, a new camera takes a while to accumulate enough shots to appear on Flickr statistics. I hope that you are not offended by my answer. And sorry for keeping it short, but I think that you are smart enough not to require an explanation longer than one sentence.
Considering your profession John, you have an interesting handle:
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A D850 or next DSLR is still being considered.
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Full frame mirrorless may be my next camera but that will not be for 5-7 years. Should be pretty good by then.
I'm happy with my D810, but might consider the D850 if it drops in price or wait for the next iteration (D860?). I have no interest in mirror-less. The lack of an optical finder is a deal killer - I've never found a digital finder I liked.
The move to mirrorless by Nikon seems to be more about reducing the costs to build cameras than taking advantage of the technology. At least that is what we have seen from Nikon so far (looking at the 1 series). We will know more about their future in a week.
Analogously, Nikon (and Canon) did not dump APS-C when full frame sensors became practicable. D500 is the latest proof of that.
Is looking like something Soviet era Zenit would have designed for Red Army field use (looks like it can support artillery above the lens).
PS: I am a big supporter of popup flash.