Z6&70-200 f2.8 or Z50&50-250

rmprmp Posts: 526Member
I have a z7 and the 24-70 f4 and I love the combination. But, what about reach? I have been waiting for the 70-200 f2.8 with the though of paring it with a z6. Now comes the Z50 and the 50-250. Which way do I go? Suggestions and comments will be appreciated.
Robert M. Poston: D4, D810, V3, 14-24 F2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8, 80-400, 105 macro.
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  • mhedgesmhedges Posts: 1,330Member
    I think it depends on what you want to do. Z6 + 70-200 will be a little more than 3 stops better in low light situations than the Z50 and 50-250.

    For reach you could always just use your Z7 in crop mode. It will be pretty similar to the Z50 + 50-250. There isn’t all that much difference between 200 and 250, really.
  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,095Member
    Buy the 70-200 2.8S and use it on your Z7. Your reach is more likely determined by the sharpness of your lens and you want the sharpest possible sensor for that. The 70-200 2.8S will be light years ahead of a budget crop sensor lens for resolution.

    I just saved you having to buy a new camera RMP.
  • retreadretread Posts: 537Member
    The 70-200 2.8 will be a 140-300 in DX crop mode and still f/2.8.
  • mhedgesmhedges Posts: 1,330Member
    retread said:

    The 70-200 2.8 will be a 140-300 in DX crop mode and still f/2.8.

    Not to stir up a can of worms but really its more functionally equivalent to an F4. At least when compared with FF performance.
  • NSXTypeRNSXTypeR Posts: 2,109Member
    Hard to say, when DX Z mount cameras are still but a rumor right now.
    Nikon D7000/ Nikon D40/ Nikon FM2/ 18-135 AF-S/ 35mm 1.8 AF-S/ 105mm Macro AF-S/ 50mm 1.2 AI-S
  • rmprmp Posts: 526Member
    Thanks all. I will stay with the 70-200 f 2.8. And maybe the z6 because I do not like to change lenses in the field.
    Robert M. Poston: D4, D810, V3, 14-24 F2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8, 80-400, 105 macro.
  • PistnbrokePistnbroke Posts: 1,879Member
    A 200mm lens will always be a 200mm and the ( bird) image it puts on the sensor will be the same size however big or small the sensor is . Its just how many pixels can the sensor put on that image that counts.Forget all this 1.5x rubbish and if you got FX it makes it easier to find your target. (wider field of view)
  • BVSBVS Posts: 439Member
    If you have a Z7 then it'll give you the same 'reach' as the Z50 (assuming the same lens). Maybe it's better to put the 70-200 on the Z7?

    In any case, the 70-200 should provide much better image quality than the 50-250, although it's bigger, heavier, and much more expensive.
    D7100, 85 1.8G, 50 1.8G, 35 1.8G DX, Tokina 12-28 F4, 18-140, 55-200 VR DX
  • Ton14Ton14 Posts: 489Member
    edited September 2019
    @Pistnbroke In DX mode there is no need to crop in post and I always make my composition in camera with backbutton focus and eyefocus now. Sometimes DX mode gives the fastest workflow for me (I always crop).

    For BIF, it is true that FX mode is easier of course, but a 3000 x 2000 px photo is enough for me, because A3+ is the maximum size for 97% of my photo's, when I want a print. A small extra DX mode use the best part of the lens and I have this mode on my camera, so why not use it.

    Don't forget to set it back, the same as ISO, but I always use my checklist when I put my camera away at the end of the day, just a habbit.
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  • PistnbrokePistnbroke Posts: 1,879Member
    If you are in FX and your bird is in the centre you are using the "best part of the lens"?? Even if I use DX my birds are so far away I still need to crop...Its horses for courses and whatever floats your boat .
    But on the subject of the post all the Z50 pics I have seen it does not have a viewfinder though some text says it does (optional ?) .So its far too soon to say anything about the Z50
  • donaldejosedonaldejose Posts: 3,221Member
    "too soon to say anything about the Z50" or the new Z mount DX lense. It likely will be an entirely different body just as the D7500 is an entirely different body than the D750. The main advantage of the Z50 may be much more than just the ability to use the new DX lenses. For example, the advantage using a Z50 may be size, weight and small kit lens. As far as we know there won't be a new mount for DX mirrorless lenses so any DX lens with a Z mount can be used on a D6 or D7 for birds when you are going to crop anyway. We just don't know enough yet to be able to discuss the relative advantages or disadvantages. Hopefully, the Z50 will have many advantages.
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 919Member
    edited January 7
    The Z50 with the two kit lens is quite amazing. Since I shoot fairly stopped down as I want max deoth of field I like BOTH of the kit lens. I’d vastly prefer a real back lens cap on both new Z50 kit lens. So you’d need to buy two new real back lens caps too, and the lens hoods which are an OPTION and are screw in mounts, you have to find out what filters (I use UV 46mm on the new 16-50 which is remarkable) and a Hoya Thin Polarizer on the 50-250. The camera and two kit lens is easily one of the most compact travel rigs I have ever seen and the quality although not quite a Z6, is truly remarkable! If you want mini, and yet a camera you can get a grip on......the Z50 and the two tiny, but mighty kit lens is a remarkable image maker!
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  • donaldejosedonaldejose Posts: 3,221Member
  • WestEndFotoWestEndFoto Posts: 3,095Member
    DaveyJ said:

    The Z50 with the two kit lens is quite amazing. Since I shoot fairly stopped down as I want max deoth of field I like BOTH of the kit lens. I’d vastly prefer a real back lens cap on both new Z50 kit lens. So you’d need to buy two new real back lens caps too, and the lens hoods which are an OPTION and are screw in mounts, you have to find out what filters (I use UV 46mm on the new 16-50 which is remarkable) and a Hoya Thin Polarizer on the 50-250. The camera and two kit lens is easily one of the most compact travel rigs I have ever seen and the quality although not quite a Z6, is truly remarkable! If you want mini, and yet a camera you can get a grip on......the Z50 and the two tiny, but mighty kit lens is a remarkable image maker!

    I am looking forward to Nikon putting a full frame sensor in this body (Z5). I will then buy the compact primes on the roadmap (28 and 40).

    If they price it right, it will sell like hotcakes.
  • trolleytrolley Posts: 128Member


    I am looking forward to Nikon putting a full frame sensor in this body (Z5). I will then buy the compact primes on the roadmap (28 and 40).

    If they price it right, it will sell like hotcakes.

    That doesn't sound like a Nikon move!
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