Nikon 100-400mm f4.5-5.6

pcassitypcassity Posts: 10Member
I should know this since I was once owned the 80-400 but, does anyone know at what focal length does the 100-400 change from 4.5 to 5.6.?
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  • photobunnyphotobunny Posts: 535Member
    It hasn’t been discovered/disclosed yet. It won’t be the same as the 80-400 or any of the other 100-400 lenses because it is a different design, non have had the same curve to 4.5->5.0->5.6
  • MrFotoFoolMrFotoFool Posts: 286Member
    I have no idea but it appears to be a stellar lens either way. I am considering moving to Z mount and getting this lens as a single telephoto solution, instead of my current F mount 70-200 2.8 and 300 4PF and 500 5.6PF .
  • photobunnyphotobunny Posts: 535Member

    I have no idea but it appears to be a stellar lens either way. I am considering moving to Z mount and getting this lens as a single telephoto solution, instead of my current F mount 70-200 2.8 and 300 4PF and 500 5.6PF .

    A lot of folks are considering replacing the 500 PF with this (including myself), but there is a niggle in my head that says both still have their place. I'll be renting one first. And we can see a 400 PF and 800 PF on the roadmap that may be better suited for some.
  • pcassitypcassity Posts: 10Member
    edited October 2021
    I believe this is going to be a phenomenal lens. However, as a very happy 500 PF owner I can’t see giving up 100mm and not gaining an extra stop to f4. A 400 f4 PF would be wonderful! Thus, my question regarding at what point does this lens switch to 5.6.
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  • mhedgesmhedges Posts: 2,607Member
    There is a second 400mm prime on the roadmap now. Judging by the size of the silhouette it seems likely to be a f4 PF lens.
  • MrFotoFoolMrFotoFool Posts: 286Member
    mhedges said:

    There is a second 400mm prime on the roadmap now. Judging by the size of the silhouette it seems likely to be a f4 PF lens.

    By second 400 you mean besides the 400 2.8 that recently got a development announcement? Hmmm... a 400 f4PF would indeed be intriguing.
  • photobunnyphotobunny Posts: 535Member
    @MrFotoFool the new 400 prime on the roadmap is the same height as the 70-200 and 100-400. It was added with a 800 that is as short as the 400 f/2.8 TC.
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,084Member
    I ordered one with the Z9. To me wherever it switches to a narrower aperture is of no concern as I shoot mostly 5.6 and narrower. It is already rated stellar! It will take awhile for me to order the 1.4 TC to also use.
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,084Member
    If I get the 100-400 Z lens first I will use it on my Z6 II
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,084Member
    My Dealer, Green Mountain Camera has me first on their list to get this lens. I will use it first on the Z6 II. Does anybody out there know when the firmware updates are coming for the Z6 II and Z7 II ?
  • photobunnyphotobunny Posts: 535Member
    There are no ‘due’ firmware updates, Just rumours. However, the Z6 hasn’t stopped me getting wildlife shots with the 500PF so the 100-400 will be even better on the Z6ii and Z7ii.
  • MrFotoFoolMrFotoFool Posts: 286Member

    @MrFotoFool the new 400 prime on the roadmap is the same height as the 70-200 and 100-400. It was added with a 800 that is as short as the 400 f/2.8 TC.

    A lightweight 800 f5.6 PF would be a dream come true!
  • MrFotoFoolMrFotoFool Posts: 286Member
    Here is a nice short video on the internal adjustment of the lens (which keeps the center of gravity from changing as you zoom out).
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,084Member
    I saw this video when I was informed I was the FIRST order for my "local" dealer. One comment though.....I do NOT want a fixed focal length. And for SURE not a long prime like a 800! Zooms allow a photographer to frame the shot. And I like myself some environment around my subject. I have been in places with wildlife that could really hurt you if they attacked, and I found the lens I had did not have enough wide on the lens. If I constantly found myself shooting at the longest range, then I would buy a long prime. Part of this is where you are shooting. Morten Hilmer's excellent photos and video in the Far North illustrates this situation. If I was in Svalbard sp? where he does a lot of shooting a LONG prime would be very desirable.
  • mhedgesmhedges Posts: 2,607Member
    100-400 is supposed to be released Friday. To be honest I wish it was a little later - not the best timing for a very big expense right by the holidays. But if I cancel my order then who knows when I would get it.
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,084Member
    I will soon find out where my "local" dealer rides in this first shipment, late is my guess.
  • mhedgesmhedges Posts: 2,607Member
    edited December 2021
    Looks like mine (from Adorama) is shipping today. I'll post the aperture change thresholds when I get it.

    Time to put my 70-300 AF-P on the block, methinks.
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  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,084Member
    My 100-400 arrives here Tuesday.
  • mhedgesmhedges Posts: 2,607Member
    Mines coming tomorrow too. Can't wait to take it out on Wednesday!
  • mhedgesmhedges Posts: 2,607Member
    Lens is in hand. Here’s the aperture breakdown:

    100mm 4.5
    135 4.8
    200 5
    300 5.3
    400 5.6
  • mhedgesmhedges Posts: 2,607Member
    Here are a few test pics if anyone is interested

    https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzwiR5
  • MrFotoFoolMrFotoFool Posts: 286Member
    mhedges said:

    Here are a few test pics if anyone is interested

    https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzwiR5

    Thanks. It looks like a great lens which of course we knew it would be. The photos of the cat (with pupils dilated from the dark) proves it works well in low light too - in spite of not having a large maximum aperture.
  • mhedgesmhedges Posts: 2,607Member
    Thanks! Although I’d say some of the credit for the cat pics should go to the outstanding high iso capabilities of the z6. Those were at 20000 ISO - my living room light had burnt out right before I took them.
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,084Member
    edited December 2021
    I have my Z S 100-400. It is an amazing lens, FAST focus. Using it on my Z 6 II until the Z 9 can even be ordered. My local dealer can't do pre-orders on the Z 9. The Z 6 II struggles with start up to a degree that it is a miracle that Nikon shooters didn't evaporate. The Z 9 just might save Nikon. BUT the Z 6 II needs an upgrade at least as much as the Z 6 did!!
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  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,084Member
    edited December 2021
    The Z 6 II with the 100-400 Z lens struggles with shots at even 30 deg. F. and that fails to impress me one iota. I had OK results a half hour earlier. It is NOT a fast start up mirrorless camera. Not the lens fault. I have used enough Sony A 1 with the 200-600 lens to know that the Z 6 II needs a swift upgrade! The Z 9 is a FAR superior camera and I now have NO DOUBT about that.
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