300 mm f4

Parke1953

Thanks jshickele. Done deal.

WestEndBoy

You are welcome. Let us know how you like it.

Parke1953

Will do.

Nik0n2011

Hello guys

last night i had some vision, some mystic moments.

some days ago i was looking here at NR at previous months patents for the 300 f4
when i ended up to this one

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/05/19/nikon-100-300mm-f4-full-frame-lens-patent.aspx/

100-300 F4

this means, addying the x2 300 F4 patents, that Nikon in the last 2 years (at least) has been working on that focal range (300)

now some months ago they released the 70-200 F4 (very nice, well equipped and cheap lens)
while the 100-300 F4 might be the bigger brother of the 70-200 F4
the 70-200 F4 costs 1000-1200 dollars

i have no idea what would cost the 100-300 F4

but my point would be another, a crossed point.

1) IF the 300mm IQ is top top top as the 300 F4 prime and F4 VR we dream about
why would one prefer to buy the 300 prime instead than the zoom ? (a part for weight and size
the zoom looks bigger and possibly heavier).

2) Sigma released the 120-300 2.8, priced ABOVE 3.2 / 3.5k dollars. (ofc is 2.8, but is still Sigma)
and the 80-400 5.6 by Nikon goes over 2.4k

we know Nikon is always more expensive than its counterparts
IF Nikon released a 100-300 F4 and priced it between 3.4 and 4k ?
or more likely (?) twice or about the price of the 70-200 F4 and again that would be the range of the 300 F4 prime?


i know, i know

Nikon won't release anything a part some
DX lenses and some refresh for the 800 5.6 (3 people in the world getting it)

Nik0n2011

to the above

IF you were NIKON
and IF NIKON released these 2 lenses (300 F4 VR & 100-300 F4 VR)

how would you price them ? (not for your wallet, but from Nikon's perspective)

henrik1963

I think a safe bet would be that a new 300 F4 would be more expensive that the one out now - $2000 maybe even more. Depending on what Nikon decides to put in the lens - glass, VR and coating.

A Nikon 100-300 F4 sounds a lot like a little sister to the 200-400 F4 - very expensive.

But who knows? Nikon have different classes of lenses - pro and consumer. A lot will depend on how they decide to build and market a lens. Take a close look at 85 1.8 and 85 1.4 - close in performance for most uses but very different in price. Or look at the difference between the new 80-400 and 200-400. Very different beasts.

manhattanboy

Hopefully they give us more consumer teles. The longer the better.
They are crapping on the market with iterations of consumer bodies every few months. Someone in marketing must realize that cheap good teles will sell like hot cakes as a desired lens purchase to those kit lenses.

shawnino

Hopefully they give us more consumer teles. The longer the better.
They are crapping on the market with iterations of consumer bodies every few months. Someone in marketing must realize that cheap good teles will sell like hot cakes as a desired lens purchase to those kit lenses.

This.
400/5.6
600/8
100-400 fixed 5.6, even 6.3.
300-600 6.3, I don't know.

Speed not required. Weather sealing/VR not required, but interesting bonuses.

henrik1963

Nikon can now make a 70-300 for less than 600 including VR. So nothing is stopping them from making a 300mm in that pricerange - except for one thing - all the Nikon Rumors members will be complaining about to much plastic and not as good as the last 300 mm :-)

Golf007sd

This year I seek to add two new primes lenses to my bag...a new 50mm and a 300mm.

With respect to the 300mm, both current 2.8 and f/4.0 are fantastic and truly deliver exceptional performance. I have been lucky enough to have mounted both of them on my bodies. The 2.8 has been the one that I've been leaning towards; yet if Nikon does bring to market a new improved f/4, much like the enhancements they made to the 80-400, then you can count me in.

@henrik1963: I have no issue with plastic being used by Nikon on the lenses I own...namely the 24 1.4G and 85 1.8G just to name a few. So long as the lens delivers, I will be more than happy to give up the added weight. The new 58 1.4G fits that criteria as well.

henrik1963

I agere with you Golf007sd. I dont need "build like a tank".

manhattanboy

This.
400/5.6
600/8
100-400 fixed 5.6, even 6.3.
300-600 6.3, I don't know.

Speed not required. Weather sealing/VR not required, but interesting bonuses.

If they would release the 400 5.6 and make it about the same price as the canon the things would fly off the shelf.
A decent super tele prime for under 1.5k, yes please!

Nik0n2011

anyone can identify the MIDDLE lens, 300 seems clear, the rest f 2.8? 4D ?

http://3.static.img-dpreview.com/files/w/TS590x393?url=http://www.dpreview.com/files/news/3959790057/DSCF1331.jpg&signature=nUjiz7BcNXIEHHfwa1+TcXviMns=&v=2743



maybe f/2.8G ED VR II

manhattanboy

maybe f/2.8G ED VR II

Yep!

Too bad, it would have been nice to see a new 300 f4, although that 2.8 in the picture is pretty big. I'm hoping for a smaller hand-holdable model for the 300 f4.

PB_PM

anyone can identify the MIDDLE lens, 300 seems clear, the rest f 2.8? 4D ?

http://3.static.img-dpreview.com/files/w/TS590x393?url=http://www.dpreview.com/files/news/3959790057/DSCF1331.jpg&signature=nUjiz7BcNXIEHHfwa1+TcXviMns=&v=2743



maybe f/2.8G ED VR II

Looks like a 200-400mm F4G VRII, AF-S 300mm F2.8G VRII and 600mm F4G VR.



The 300mm F4D IF-ED is much smaller than that, and has a built in hood. Looks nothing like any of those lenses. The Sigma 120-300mm F2.8 pictured above is about the same physical size as the 300mm F2.8G.

Nik0n2011

here's a time table of the last years releases
last year's MARCH (end of the month) they announced the 80-400
still hoping

manhattanboy

Given the new rebates for the 80-400, if one were to buy right now, would you recommend the 80-400 or still go with the 300 f4 and a 1.4x TC??
There is also the option of the Tamron, which finally got DXO marked.

Nik0n2011

I have the 1.4tc already... Cost wise the 300f4 would cost me only half (about) of the 80 400
However if u want to pay for the 80 400 then u might want to wait and pay for the new 300?

Right now and with no budget limits
80 400 maybe offers more
But possibly in its specific field the 300 wins

Up to ur needs

WestEndBoy

A prime will almost always beat a zoom in its specific field.

manhattanboy

I have the 1.4tc already... Cost wise the 300f4 would cost me only half (about) of the 80 400
However if u want to pay for the 80 400 then u might want to wait and pay for the new 300?

Right now and with no budget limits
80 400 maybe offers more
But possibly in its specific field the 300 wins

Up to ur needs

Well, I will shoot full frame up to 200. Really only switch to DX and a longer lens for reach.
So yes primarily I am targeting the 300-400 area.
Any comments on the portability and weight of the 300 +tc versus 80-400?
I am kind of leaning towards the 300+tc. If Nikon had a low weight 400 prime like the canon that would have been my preference. I am willing to wait a little while longer. Really want a short 300 DO lens. Might just drop a thousand for the Tamron and wait it out longer for the updated prime.

PB_PM

The 300mm F4 (1400g aprox), The 80-400mm VRII (1500g aprox) weigh about the same, while the Tamron weighs 1900g.

Nik0n2011

Top models announcements with lenses

in 2007, D3 with 400 2.8, 500 f4, 600 f4, 14-24 2.8, 27-70 2.8
in 2008, D3x only
in 2009, D3s with 85 3.5 Micro DX
in 2012, D4 with 85 1.8
in 2014, D4s ...

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/01/05/the-official-announcement-nikon-d4.aspx/

on 25/26/27 Jan it will be D4s, i still have my hopes for a last minute surprise

1-2 months more and i'll go for the current version.

manhattanboy

The 300 f4 is out of stock at both amazon and BH.
Hopefully that's a good sign of an eminent update!
Here's hoping for a simultaneously announced 300f4 with the D4s!

dissent

* sips coffee ...
... throws another log on the fire ...

... waits patiently ...*

henrik1963

D4s + AFS 300 F4 VRIII sounds like a good combo