D7xxx(D7200) vs D500

heartyfisher

Capt_Spaulding said:

Very, very nice HF.

Thanks! :-)

Still
1) The D500 could have been better :-), FX would have helped too ..
2) A brighter than F4 lens would have helped. VR would have helped too.
3) A tripod could have helped.

(Man, NAS is a nasty beast ....)

pictureted

I haven't used the D7200, but started with the D90 and upgraded to the D7000 and D7100 before buy the D810. Much of my work is with macro lenses and they were all FX, so the migration wasn't as painful for lenses, especially with the introduction of the new 1.8G primes at reasonable prices.

When I got the 200-500VR, I started shooting birds with the D810 and then tried the D7100 again for the "DX-reach", but the AF was slower, viewfinder smaller and the D500 was announced, so I ordered.

Now after a day of shooting with the D500 it's clearly a perfect complement to the D810 for me. It's AF is remarkable, the viewfinder is big and bright (like the D810) and the screen is the best I've seen. Having the same battery, cable port and eyepiece, as well as ergonomics is quite helpful too.

retread

I will pick up my D500 Friday and have thought a D810 would be a good compliment to it. Spending enough for now so it may be an up graded D810 by the time I can afford it.

manhattanboy

pictureted said:

I haven't used the D7200, but started with the D90 and upgraded to the D7000 and D7100 before buy the D810. Much of my work is with macro lenses and they were all FX, so the migration wasn't as painful for lenses, especially with the introduction of the new 1.8G primes at reasonable prices.

When I got the 200-500VR, I started shooting birds with the D810 and then tried the D7100 again for the "DX-reach", but the AF was slower, viewfinder smaller and the D500 was announced, so I ordered.

Now after a day of shooting with the D500 it's clearly a perfect complement to the D810 for me. It's AF is remarkable, the viewfinder is big and bright (like the D810) and the screen is the best I've seen. Having the same battery, cable port and eyepiece, as well as ergonomics is quite helpful too.

This is exactly my plan. Glad to know it worked out well for you, fingers crossed I have the same great experience.

DaveyJ

I have acquired a new D7200. Stills are great. Every video is out of focus? Any ideas??? I have never seen this with my D7100, or for that matter with D3200, D3300, I am really wondering if it isn't time to abandon DSLR for all video? Anybody who can shed some light on this? I did notice there is a setting for movie ISO sensitivity, which I just reset from 100 ISO to 1000 ISO.....

Photobug

Assume you checked your AF/M setting. Would not be the first one to have it in the wrong position.

WestEndFoto

Photobug said:

Assume you checked your AF/M setting. Would not be the first one to have it in the wrong position.

I can't count how many times I have done that.

heartyfisher

I have the D7200 and its been good to me, I also have the D610 and its also been good to me ! However, both are compromises I made when I gave up waiting for the D500. :-( The D500 is all I hoped for and predicted for a flagship DX DSLR. Especially, since they did not let the Marketing guys restrict its features.

However, the presence of the D500 has indicated to my crystal ball a few more predictions. Especially the "All in" nature of the D500 feature set.

1) D500 is probably the last DX Pro DSLR. There may be a D500S due to the popularity of the D500 but this is probably the last Hurrah for this line. So reminiscent of the F6 SLR.

2) The mirrorless DX is on the way ! The milestone of the D500 release would put the DX mirrorless replacement of the D500 to be 4 years away.

The question now for me is
a) Live with my D7200 and D610 and wait for the M510 ? the D7200 has proven to be quite an excellent Kit!

b) Upgrade to the D500 and know I will have used a legend in the annals of the history of photography!

DaveyJ

I set the camera on 1000 ISO for movies, seemed to make a difference.....I always leave the camera in AF and never use manual. Same for the lens. But the focus I conclude in movie mode is no better than the D7100. I am impressed with the D7200 and we now,have two 7200, the 7100, a D7000, etc. our D500 is,still not,here as we are waiting for a Ikelite UW housing and port for 10-20 Sigma, and port for the 10-17 Tokina fisheye. Personally I would use the D500 on land and put the D7200 UW. But my son calls the shots here as it is here as it it his work that keeps our farm productive. Both the D7200 and D500 are great cameras. If Nikon goes to mirror less DX I predict a less than perfect response from buyers. I know you all want mirror less, I hate them!

DaveyJ

Mirrored UW,Great, on land give me a DSLR!

DaveyJ

Still have not got our D500 which we paid for!

Pistnbroke

I have no intention of going backwards in the MP stakes, even 24 down to 20 and I can buy 3 or 4 D7200 for the price of a D500 so no thanks

spraynpray

Hmmm, I can't see a D500 being too necessary for wedding photography Pistnbroke!

retread

The D500 and the D7200 look like a good pair for a DX kit. It covers all the basses, different tools for deferent jobs. One for the job at hand and the other for backup.

I am holding out for the D810 to go with my D500.

Photobug

Local dealer has no clue when he will get the D500 in stock. Wants my money on a preorder. Looks like a waiting game.

donaldejose

Sports and wildlife should be the forte of the D500 and the D5. When the D810 and D750 are soon replaced they likely will contain all, many or some of the advances found in the D5 and D500.

retread

donaldejose said:

Sports and wildlife should be the forte of the D500 and the D5. When the D810 and D750 are soon replaced they likely will contain all, many or some of the advances found in the D5 and D500.

I will use the D500 for sports and wildlife and the D810 replacement for most everything else. It should be assume with about 54mp and a focus system from the D5/D500 and a few more tweak's that can come with the upgrade.

It will likely come before I have enough saved so I won't be an early adopter this time.

Ironheart

If it is a 54mp sensor, and the same guts as the D5/D500 it will max out at 4-5 fps.

donaldejose

4 to 5 fps should be enough for landscape, studio and some general use. For sports and BIF get another body like the D500.

retread

My D5100 shoots at 4 fps and I often wished I had more to get the one between two of them when shooting sports.

Now I often find myself shooting at 5 fps with the D500 keeping the 10 fps for when things are really fast. 10 fps gives me way to many files to sort when I don't need them.

Msmoto

Quite clearly, when shooting any action event, the more FPS, the easier it is to capture the image desired. My D800E simply will not work for sports as the cards or settings shooting 14 bit lossless compressed seem to clog everything up after only a few frames when on max of 6 FPS. However, as I shoot the D4 at 10 FPS whenever action is involved, I actually have never looked at the buffer readout on the D800E. As a result of this discussion, I just might...thanks

Ironheart

@Msmoto brings up a good point. The larger buffer of the D5/500 platform is just as important as the raw speed. It would be welcome to see a deep buffer on the D810 replacement. Quick math shows that the D5/500 buffer with a 54mp sensor will fill up at 77 frames instead of 200. Not too shabby for a landscape camera
Kidding aside, based on past history, I predict it will be at least a year before Nikon releases the D810 replacement. While I would expect to see many of the D5/500 improvements incorporated into it, I expect it will have a different AF model, or one more optimized for a hybrid PDAF/CDAF live view. Perhaps the D820 will really be a D900 and mirrorless.

Pretty way off topic

Here's something right on point (that we seemed to have missed on this thread...)

https://photographylife.com/nikon-d500-vs-d7200

Paperman

Quite can't get the missed point, Ironheart ...

Ironheart

Meaning I hadn't seen anyone else post a link to the photographylife discussion with the very same name as this thread?

heartyfisher

@Ironheart "Quick math shows that the D5/500 buffer with a 54mp sensor will fill up at 77 frames instead of 200."

Not that i am great at maths but I think your maths is a bit off and incomplete..
1) FPS is not specified.
2) Actual buffer on the D5/D500 is only 38. the reason the number 200 is mentioned is it can at the very least write 162 frames to the Cards in the time it takes to capture 200 frames. given the FPS for the cameras.

So i think the maths needs a few more parameters specified before the number 77 can be in any way concluded as plausible. :-)