D7xxx(D7200) vs D500

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  • Capt_SpauldingCapt_Spaulding Posts: 755Member
    Good luck and have a great trip.
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,090Member
    I did try the 200-500 on the D7500 Wow! Is it FAST!
  • HikerHiker Posts: 197Member
    I just got back from vacation to Joshua Tree NP and the LA area. This was my first big outing with the D7200, Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 and a Tokina 11-20mm f2.8. I'm very impressed with the performance of the 7200. Very little in post processing was necessary! I shot a sunset that was blown out, until I got home and was able to recover the details. I did have my Nikkor 70-300 lens on at Barker Dam in JT to shoot the Big Horn Sheep that were rumored to be there. But none were present. So luckily I shot a Wasp with the 70-300. This wasp was every bit as long as my finger..nice zoom!!! Thanks!
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    Recovering blown out highlights? How? I find that the blinkies on my Nikons have always told me the truth - when they blink, there is no data.
    Always learning.
  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,494Member
    I find it depends on the range. Keep in mind that the blinkies are based on the in camera jpeg, not the RAW file it is imbeded in. While there is far more range in the shadows than the highlights, there often is data there to be extracted, as long as it's not too far gone.
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    Sure, I realise that PB. My clickin' buddy has lots of detail left when his 7D2 blinkies happen, but mine are pretty damn accurate.
    Always learning.
  • HikerHiker Posts: 197Member
    I shot the sunset, after the sun had set. I checked the pic in the viewfinder and there was nothing there with any detail except a bright sky and I thought I had no photo. Until I got home, decreased the exposure, and basically tweaked it, the clouds I saw with my eye were there, the Joshua Trees are in silhouette but I got the shot. My original comment came from the shots I took in broad daylight. Very little post done to most of my photos. My histograms were very accurate on the D7200. My D3300 for some reason had inaccurate histograms.
  • dissentdissent Posts: 1,355Member
    edited August 2017
    Just back from Oshkosh after my first extended opportunity to shoot in quite a long time. Have really been slammed at work; little time to get out. I have to say that I am quite impressed at least qualitatively with the performance of both the D7200 and the D500. With the 70-200/2.8G on the D7200 and the 200-500 on the D500 the focus acquisition on both seems markedly faster than my D7100. Will know more when I get the several thousand images (mostly rubbish but a fair share of keepers I think) out of the cameras and into my recent Lightroom cc upgrade to see what I really have.
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    - Ian . . . [D7000, D7100; Nikon glass: 35 f1.8, 85 f1.8, 70-300 VR, 105 f2.8 VR, 12-24 f4; 16-85 VR, 300 f4D, 14E-II TC, SB-400, SB-700 . . . and still plenty of ignorance]
  • retreadretread Posts: 574Member
    I shot a small local air show, my first, last year with the 70-200 G on my D500 last year. I was amazed at the results. I think you will be very pleased with your shots. Wish I had the time and money to go to Oskosh. Close enough I could drive there in a day easy.
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    Looking forward to seeing your images Dissent.
    Always learning.
  • egosbaregosbar Posts: 65Member
    i get plenty of recovery from highlites blinking from the back of camera jpeg , at least a stop on the d500
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    IMHO that''s just plain wrong. Having to second guess a warning is like ' does my oil light being on mean there is no oil pressure or is there just enough'! I'm glad my D7100 is accurate in that way.
    Always learning.
  • HikerHiker Posts: 197Member
    How is the Vello battery grip on the D7200? Not wanting to spend 3 x's the money on a Nikon grip! And I'm also looking at either a Op/Tech Utility Slide Strap or a Peak Design Slide. Any thoughts would be great!
  • retreadretread Posts: 574Member

    IMHO that''s just plain wrong. Having to second guess a warning is like ' does my oil light being on mean there is no oil pressure or is there just enough'! I'm glad my D7100 is accurate in that way.

    I read, I think from Thom Hogan, it off by one third stop. It blinks 1/3 stop before it should. If you know what it is you can allow for it. I think of it as a bit of a safety factor so not big problem when you know what it is.
  • FreezeActionFreezeAction Posts: 915Member
    I have the D7200 and hanker for the D500 buffer. Still subjects the D7200 I think wins. But anything moving as in hummingbirds on a flower the D500 trumps it.
  • spraynprayspraynpray Posts: 6,545Moderator
    When I look through PAD and members flickr streams I see a lot of great photos which, when I check, turn out to be taken with D500's. It seems brilliant AF is better than lots of pixels.
    Always learning.
  • rmprmp Posts: 586Member
    Love the D500 focus! It is FAST and accurate!
    Robert M. Poston: D4, D810, V3, 14-24 F2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8, 80-400, 105 macro.
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,090Member
    edited August 2017
    I have the D500 and the D7200 and with the
    Nikon 200-500 I distinctly prefer the D7500! Why the focus touch screen and the rest of the features the new camera has. This is easily the best touch flip screen
    Nikon has ever made! It is as fast as the D500 from everything I can tell.
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  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    I got to spend 10 minutes with the D7500 today at the local dealer. Nice camera, size, ergonomics, and the touch screen. Dummy me forgot to bring a memory card along....dah! For me, I don't plan to upgrade from the D7100 to the D7500.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,090Member
    edited August 2017
    I have learned that the D7500 is no step backward. I was flying a drone today, the touch screen focusing was awesome. Now a Nikon has a camera with a good touchscreen. The D7500 is so far ahead of the D7100 it is remarkable. The D7100 in the field is MUCH harder to use! This D7500 results in faster, more accurate focusing, videos so far ahead of the D7100 it is remarkable, far faster focusing with stills, just plain amazing performance. The D7100 I have used from our farm fleet is going back to my son and grandson as it is not worth carrying when I need better, quicker photos and video. Still,the D7100 that I have used for some years served very well. I just have come to need the D7500 features. Taking a capture card to a store to try one is very different than owning one and putting it to every day use. It took me some time to realize for me it had the D7200 beat by a useful margin. So a step backward?
    Just the opposite! Sidestep maybe, but a retreat like the D3400 was, not even close!
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  • HikerHiker Posts: 197Member
    DaveyJ said:

    I have learned that the D7500 is no step backward. I was flying a drone today, the touch screen focusing was awesome. Now a Nikon has a camera with a good touchscreen. The D7500 is so far ahead of the D7100 it is remarkable. The D7100 in the field is MUCH harder to use! This D7500 results in faster, more accurate focusing, videos so far ahead of the D7100 it is remarkable, far faster focusing with stills, just plain amazing performance. The D7100 I have used from our farm fleet is going back to my son and grandson as it is not worth carrying when I need better, quicker photos and video. Still,the D7100 that I have used for some years served very well. I just have come to need the D7500 features. Taking a capture card to a store to try one is very different than owning one and putting it to every day use. It took me some time to realize for me it had the D7200 beat by a useful margin. So a step backward?
    Just the opposite! Sidestep maybe, but a retreat like the D3400 was, not even close!

    I wish that Nikon had their "act together". Like I have stated before, I called Nikon USA to find out a release date for the 7500, that was a Monday. They claimed they didn't know. So Tuesday, the next day they announced the 7500..lol. So they lost a 7500 sale and I bought a 7200. Still, I love my 7200 which is way above and beyond anything the 3300 could accomplish imho! Glad to hear the 7500 is not a step backwards!!! Now it appears it's the 850's turn!! :)
  • DaveyJDaveyJ Posts: 1,090Member
    I still recommend the D7200 to my best friends and two have recently bought the camera and are delighted with their results. Both had a shot at the D7500 and passed on it. I bought it almost as much as I just plain fealt that I needed to know, and the biggest perceived problems were not concerns of mine. I never expected to be as impressed as I am, no way, no how! I admit though, Snap Bridge I,have not tried at all!
  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,398Moderator
    edited August 2017
    Just a note about the D500... my initial impression was not that great. I think it gets noisy at anything above ISO 64000. But, the resolution is like the D800E I have. Extremely detailed when shooting at ISO's below 3200. It is very quiet, has nice FPS, and is an inexpensive partial replacement for my D4.

    I may have to try it with the new 200-500 as the ease of use would be so very nice.

    As to comparing it to the D7500, one of the most attractive aspects of the D500 is the controls are very much like the D800E and D4, so I do not get confused about what is where. Does the D7500 use the same control set up? From my observation it has similar controls, but in different places, thus, not what I would find attractive... specifically because of my familiarity with the two pro bodies I have.
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  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    Msmoto said:

    Just a note about the D500... my initial ....
    I may have to try it with the new 200-500 as the ease of use would be so very nice.

    As to comparing it to the D7500, one of the most attractive aspects of the D500 is the controls are very much like the D800E and D4, so I do not get confused about what is where. Does the D7500 use the same control set up? From my observation it has similar controls, but in different places, thus, not what I would find attractive... specifically because of my familiarity with the two pro bodies I have.

    Yes you need the 200/500 for your D500.

    Based upon last Friday's experience, where I compared the D7500 and D500, some of the controls are in different locations and in my opinion, if your using the DD7500 and a D750 or D4 or D5 or D810, you may have to stop and think. The D500 controls are more consistent with the D750/D4/D5, D810. That is my input. Good to see you back and posting pictures and adding to the threads.

    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
    |SB-800, Amaran Halo LED Ring light | MB-D16 grip| Gitzo GT3541 + RRS BH-55LR, Gitzo GM2942 + Sirui L-10 | RRS gear | Lowepro, ThinkTank, & Hoodman gear | BosStrap | Vello Freewave Plus wireless Remote, Leica Lens Cleaning Cloth |
  • HikerHiker Posts: 197Member
    I've been using my D7200 now for a couple of months. I have noticed something "strange" using the 7200 vs my old D3300. My exposure compensation is spot on with the 7200, 99.9% of the time. My D3300 I was always trying to compensate. Is there a setting I'm missing somewhere that the e/c is not showing?! Most of my settings are based on Darrell Young's book suggestions.
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