D300s Successor-D400, what and when

WestEndBoy

I would (will) buy a DF for low light and more shooting style options.

heartyfisher

Style options? As in scarfs and ponchos?

WestEndBoy

Style options? As in scarfs and ponchos?

Read the DF thread. You will get the idea.

heartyfisher

lol the DF thread is 25 pages .. you need to be a bit more specific .. :-) I dont see
anything in there that has a D400 shooting style or usage equivalence to a Df style. besides gafer tapes and CMOS sensors. oh and they will probably have similar shutter sounds too :-)

WestEndBoy

Perhaps I was off topic. I was referring to Proudgeak's comment about a 2nd camera for his D800. For my D800, the 2nd camera's style differnce, if a DF, would be a more thoughtful consided approach to photography than woud be natural with my D800. The D400 would be pretty much more of the same.

Ironheart

Except 2x faster :P

WestEndBoy

Except 2x faster :P

Perhaps and I can see why people want that, but I would not pay extra money for it.

donaldejose

I think a D400 will arrive but I wonder if it will every be able to take the place once occupied by the D300/D300s. Many of those shooters likely have moved to D7100 and D600/610 bodes and are very happy with them, thus shrinking the old D300/D300s market.

I am thinking now the best set of bodies (if money is no option) will be a D4s and a D4x and a D5300. The D4s will be the best when you need speed and high ISO. The D4x (about 50 mp) will be the best when you need super enlargement or super cropping. The D5300 will be the best for a light travel camera. These three bodies cover all the bases and can share lenses. Maybe add a "pocketable" DX sensor rangefinder type body (like the Coolpix A) if you want something you can carry in a pocket. There is no need for a D400. The D4s will do any speed needed. The D4x option for extensive cropping will do any reach needed with the lenses at hand. The D5300 will fully provide maximum DX pixel packing if needed. Why buy a D400, other than for the cost advantage? So if Nikon produces a D400 they should price it less than $2,000 or it won't sell in large quantities.

Kyyo24

There's a big "need" for a d400. It's for those that want high speed/high iso for sports and wildlife and don't have the money for. $6000 d4/d4s and/or want that "reach" from a crop body.. And yes they should price it around $2000, close to where the d300(s) was. if they wouldve added 1-2 fps (debatable) and increased the buffer on the d7100, it wouldve satisifed most of us waiting for the d400. what we want is basically a mini version of the d4(s)

sevencrossing

I am thinking now the best set of bodies (if money is no option) will be a D4s and a D4x and a D5300. ....

The D4 x has the same problem as the D400
it does not exist
The D900 not exist ether but I think it our best bet for a pro features, high resolution, reasonably high ISO and 8 fps DSLR for about half the price of a D4s / D5

donaldejose

Yes, the best D400 would be a DX mini D4 with a body like the D4 and usable ISO up to 6,400. If Nikon includes the D4 style body with built in vertical grip they could price it at $2,200. And yes, Nikon could add a few features to the D7100 or to the D800 such as larger buffer and more fps for a few hundred dollars to more fully meet the desires of those waiting for a D400.

Parke1953

What would be taken out of a D4 to make a mini D4 to bring the price down to $2,000/$2,200 besides the sensor. I don't know much about this kind of thing but I just don't see it. Most of the time smaller cost more.

Kyyo24

Its a completely different body, the sensor, the af, fps, battery, memory card slot...It's similar to the d300 ($1700) and the d3 ($5k)

FreezeAction

What would be taken out of a D4 to make a mini D4 to bring the price down to $2,000/$2,200 besides the sensor. I don't know much about this kind of thing but I just don't see it. Most of the time smaller cost more.

I don't see much but most of the ISO range from the D4 and the new Expeed 4 processor added. 16MP fine. 10 FPS better. D300s style body. Call it what they like but hurry up.

heartyfisher

So back to the D400 replacement options.. I am surprised no one went with the D600/D610 since price wise its in the exact same spot .. maybe it was designed by nikon as the D400 replacement..

sevencrossing

heartyfisher
I am surprised no one went with the D600/D610
The D300s was a professional camera
The D600 / 610 lacks many professional features
it lack the controls and focusing of the D800 and the cost advantage of the D7100
I think the full time professionals went for a D800 a while ago
some bought a D700
The photographers, on a tight budget, who have given up on the D400 and are going for the D7100

snakebunk

I agree with sevencrossing. Also the D600 is so close in price to the D800 that I think it is hard to motivate the lesser specs.

Hval

I ended up purchasing a Nikon D800 to go with my D300 & D200. Unfortunately I have been ill since I purchased the D800 and consequently have had very little chance to set up the D800, never mind take photos with it.

I believe that the Nikon D800 shall meet many, but not all, of my needs. I shall continue to use my D300 where it does not. I do rather hope that a Nikon D400 comes in to being. I would still buy one, just not immediately as I will have to save up for it.

Hval

sevencrossing

consequently have had very little chance to set up the D800,

Get well soon. In the mean time, just it set to P and AUTO ISO and enjoy the one of the best cameras in the world

Hval

Thank you sevencrossing.

It would have been photos of the bedroom ceiling unfortunately.

Hval

PB_PM

It's just a sign that your bedroom ceiling needs a new paint job.

Kyyo24

If they did something with the d800 to shoot more fps with a grip...like they did on the d700, it probably would've met ALOT of people's wants/needs

PB_PM

The buffer wouldn't be able to handle more FPS, so that wouldn't be very helpful.

sevencrossing

The buffer wouldn't be able to handle more FPS, so that wouldn't be very helpful.

The buffer is a problem with every Nikon DSLR introduced since 24 mp + became the norm
Nikon are gong to have to introduce some new wizardry to solve this . We might get it on a D400 but I think the first camera to crack the fps vs high mp problem will be the D900
which like the D800 will be a ground braking camera
sorry it will cost more than the D300s, even allowing for inflation

Emcee

Crop mode is just disabling a number of pixels. Less data and the image file gets smaller and that is why you can sometimes get a little more fps in crop mode.

Not Crop Mode, but cropping in playback. This creates a new file.