Will there Be a Professional DX Body From Nikon?

DaveyJ

I am sure the humor is required in the complete absence of any move in the right direction (=Nikon Announcements of a Pro DX). I think Pitch Black's Nessie with the Nikon is adorable. As to the Bigfoot photo I think there is a man in the suit, although the Kamchatca natives say that Bigfoot eats men and bears!

haroldp

While everyone is splitting hairs, I just might go out and take some photos....finally...

Maybe I like the term "crop sensor" vs. "full frame" as these vary among manufacturers and are poorly defined except "full frame" refers to essentially two of the original "35mm" film frames in cine, or about 22mm x 32mm...huh? this makes no sense... :-?

Well, when in a still camera someone must have decided that to waste so much on the sides was not good, (Leica in 1920's) so an approximate size was 36mm x 24mm for "double frame" 35mm film....which actually is about 35mm wide.

Confused? 8-}

Leica Viewfinders (and many film SLR's) covered a smaller frame because it was assumed people would shoot slides, whose mount covered part of the 24 X 36 nominal frame.

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sevencrossing

Leica Viewfinders (and many film SLR's) covered a smaller frame because it was assumed people would shoot slides, whose mount covered part of the 24 X 36 nominal frame.

.... H

The AV slide show became popular long after the first Leica
The Nikon F was the first camera, I ever used, that was 100% accurate
I very big plus when making slides for AV pretensions and the main reason I used an F
In those days, cropping a slide, meant using nasty sticky paper tape

haroldp

The first Leica with parallax correction and any pretense to framing accuracy was the M2 (mine was produced 1956). Before parallax correction (and SLR's), framing was so inaccurate that lots of room was included to not cut off parts accidentally.

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Ironheart

A mounted 35mm slide in a 2"x2" frame exposes an area that is about 35mm x 23mm (this varies slightly from manufacturer to manufacturer). I assume the 1mm (.5mm each side) is lost. The spec for the Nikon F was to expose an area of 36 x 24mm on the 35mm film stock. 35mm film stock was originally used for movie film cameras and ran through vertically, each frame being 16 x 22mm (almost DX!) Later on, the hight was varied from 9mm to 16mm depending on the movie format (e.g. WideScreen, CinemaScope, etc...).
Technically the spec for 35mm film is 34.98 ±0.03 mm, however the nominal size is 35mm.

haroldp

I thought it was derived from the track width of Roman Chariots.

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Ironheart

That's actually not that far from the truth ;-) Do you know what the track width of the Roman Chariots (and hence all of the Roman roads) is derived from?

Ironheart

Awww, you stole my punchline

Photobug

I actually knew that. Love how you tied that to the D400 LoL )

Msmoto

Let's see, in Colorado I have about 1/4 mile of the original Denver and Rio Grande narrow gauge RR. Does this have something to do with 35mm? Mmmmm..... I guess the Pro DX from Nikon is not going to happen, so the thread has become a bunch of miscellaneous rambling, ha think?

snakebunk

I guess the Pro DX from Nikon is not going to happen, so the thread has become a bunch of miscellaneous rambling, ha think?

You may be right, but the pro dx functionality is still interesting to some of us (personally I would not mind having it in an fx camera). I have come up with a question that I hope it is possible for us to try to answer:

The Canon 7D Mark ii can shoot crop sized 20 mp images at 10 fps. When will we see that in a Nikon camera, and what will it be called? It can either be a dx camera or an fx camera used in dx mode.

heartyfisher

Re: 10 fps .. Nikon is giving away a 60% advantage to the canon counterpart in this parameter. That's about the price difference too... between the D7200 and 7dm2 .. looks like different product levels to me .. of course Nikon can choose not to play in that niche .. so there may never be an exact counter by nikon.

Sports

@snakebunk
It must be assumed that 10 fps requires a special construction of the mirror (and shutter probably), so you will get it either
- in a pro DX (if it ever occurs)
- in a mirrorless "something"
- in a "new tech" DSLR able to run in non-mirror-flip mode.
Also, the D5 can be expected to deliver 20 MP at 10 fps, but that's just 8 MP in DX mode, and not exactly what you asked for.
I don't think there's any chance, the other existing lines will progress to 10 fps, not even in DX mode.
There is a chance, isn't there, that Nikon will build a 10 fps FX above the D750. That is, when the D810 is dead and gone, you'll get a slow 50 MP D850 and a fast 24 MP Dxxx, both in the $3000 area. But again, still not 20 MP at 10 fps in DX mode.

Msmoto

Ah, yes, back on track....and, my thinking is just about as accurate as anyone else's... in this Pro DX stuff....totally confused by Nikon's thinking and what they offer as camera bodies.

sevencrossing

...totally confused by Nikon's thinking and what they offer as camera bodies.

They currently offer ~ 10 different DSLRs
IMHO They have tried to cover most budgets and needs
If they tripled this to 30, many of the regular posters here would still be moaning,that Nikon does not make a camera, that fits their exact requirements and budget
!f Canon, Sony, Olympus can, why cant Nikon

Life is not a rehearsal, The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. Enjoy what you have

manhattanboy

@snakebunk
It must be assumed that 10 fps requires a special construction of the mirror (and shutter probably), so you will get it either
- in a pro DX (if it ever occurs)
- in a mirrorless "something"
- in a "new tech" DSLR able to run in non-mirror-flip mode.
Also, the D5 can be expected to deliver 20 MP at 10 fps, but that's just 8 MP in DX mode, and not exactly what you asked for.
I don't think there's any chance, the other existing lines will progress to 10 fps, not even in DX mode.
There is a chance, isn't there, that Nikon will build a 10 fps FX above the D750. That is, when the D810 is dead and gone, you'll get a slow 50 MP D850 and a fast 24 MP Dxxx, both in the $3000 area. But again, still not 20 MP at 10 fps in DX mode.

A slow 50mp with a fast say 8fps 24mp DX would be awesome. Finally one true all around camera.
The other thing Nikon could do which i have asked and asked for is a Nikon 1 with a better sensor and more dale like body.

Photobug

Ah, yes, back on track....and, my thinking is just about as accurate as anyone else's... in this Pro DX stuff....totally confused by Nikon's thinking and what they offer as camera bodies.

True but the detours can be entertaining, funny, and thanks to PitchBlack - something new to learn.

Although it does get old as the same comments are repeated and repeated. Guess the dreamers need somewhere to vent their frustration about their "mythical D400/D500/D9300".

donaldejose

We should not forget Nikon may be starting, or near, a transition period. Note how the body shape of the D750 was different than "normal" and a new mirrorless body may now be "in the works" and out in a year or so. Nikon's product line may make more logical sense once this transition period if over. Maybe there will even be a DX or FX rangefinder type body. Some drastic changes could be ahead in the next few years.

nukuEX2

As much as I'm happy to see D7200 (I will get one soon...) I'd loved to see it shoot at 7fps in a full DX mode and 8fps in 1.3 crop mode. . Now that would've made more people happy. Oh come on Nikon, stop being so stingy it's 2015 for pete's sake!!! )

snakebunk

Thank you for the answers to my question! The consensus seems to be that we will probably see pro dx functionality like the 7Dmk2 in a Nikon camera but not very soon. I summarize below.

Low chance possibilities of pro dx (20 mp/10 fps):
– Pro dx camera.
– Full frame 50 mp DSLR with high fps in dx mode.

High chance possibilities, not soon:
– Full frame, high resolution mirrorless camera.

heartyfisher

As much as I'm happy to see D7200 (I will get one soon...) I'd loved to see it shoot at 7fps in a full DX mode and 8fps in 1.3 crop mode. . Now that would've made more people happy. Oh come on Nikon, stop being so stingy it's 2015 for pete's sake!!! )

Thats probably a good reason why there is room for a ProDx body.

sevencrossing

As much as I'm happy to see D7200 (I will get one soon...) I'd loved to see it shoot at 7fps in a full DX mode and 8fps in 1.3 crop mode. .

heartyfisher
Thats probably a good reason why there is room for a ProDx body.


So if the D7300; D620; D760; D820 all shot say 8 fps in Dx mode would you all be happy ?

No! I didn't think so

heartyfisher

Ah, yes, back on track....

Hooray! Back on track! Self-delusion and wishful thinking full speed ahead!

LOL I wonder how many hats will that make :-)
Its the reason for this thread .. thats what we are discussing.. you are off topic :-) I guess thats ok, we are always off topic here .. ;-)

Msmoto

@PitchBlack

For sure, the discussion of a Pro DX from Nikon is such a total fantasy area, it is only our imagination..... ;;)

Sports

So if the D7300; D620; D760; D820 all shot say 8 fps in Dx mode would you all be happy ?
No! I didn't think so

I would get the D820, then, and be happy, except that it would leave something like $1500 less on my account than what I hoped for. (US price difference may be somewhat smaller, but we're not that lucky in Denmark.)