Will there Be a Professional DX Body From Nikon?

Ironheart

It doesn't seem that Nikon is afraid of large product lines. Look at the CoolPii (plural of CoolPix)

heartyfisher

And the Nikon1 lines .. 4?

Sports

Oh, no, the thread dropped out from page 1....

Just a remark on the new Sony thing. It shows, unfortunately, that Nikon no longer gets the newest sensor tech first. They're introducing large BSI sensors, and I guess it'll take another step forward for low light, eh?
AND, if it's this technology that the D400 has been waiting for, then I won't complain :-)

manhattanboy

Actually the Bugatti is over 2 million bucks. Makes the D4s look like loose change under the back seat Here's a snap of mine in Monaco last week:

You have to take me for a ride in your car some time...and I might just rummage around in the back seat for your unwanted D4S's if that's okay with you

heartyfisher

So this new rumour of the 16-80mm F2.8-3.5 is sparking some talk about the D400 in various places !
Does it seem like a kit lense for the D400 to you? or just a much needed update for the old 16-85 F3.5-5.6? Do you think this is the result of the kick Nikon got from the presence of the 7Dm2 ?

snakebunk

No, it doesn't sound like a pro quality lense to me. I think the new 300/4 with a TC14 would make a better kit with the D400.

Sports

Hard to say.
It's not really wide, not very much a tele, not really fast, not one of those "ultras", so it's fair to see it as some kind of kit lens. But it could sell with a D7200 just as well, I would say.
*IF* a D400 is on its way, then this new lens could be a clever idea from Nikon to make us spend more money. Most potential D400 buyers already have lenses, and we wouldn't buy the cheap, standard kit lens. So, how will Nikon tempt us? By announcing a new lens that sits in a new segment, and brings some new qualities. It would work for me, I believe. If it turns out to be good, I would really consider it.

In other words, a lens that doesn't exist for a camera that doesn't exist sounds like the perfect kit :-)

heartyfisher

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In other words, a lens that doesn't exist for a camera that doesn't exist sounds like the perfect kit :-)

) perfect for De four hundredners.


What do you think about the 16-50 F2.0-F2.8 OIS.. Ist it too bad it comes in a mount we nikonites cant use :-(

spraynpray

I would always take a 16-80 over any 18-* as those 2mm at the wide end make it very much more useful to me. That is after analysing all of my 18-105 shots and finding a lot of them were at 18mm which is why I changed to the 16-85 but was disappointed by the unspecial IQ.

If the new lens tests a lot better than my old 17-55, I'll have one.

haroldp

My 'old 17-55 / 2.8' is quite good, I doubt 'a lot better' is in the cards, particularly for a variable aperture zoom.

A lot lighter and as good or nearly as good as the 17-55 / 2.8 will do for me, particularly with 1mm wider and 15mm longer.

.... H

Ironheart

I'll settle for almost as good as the 17-55 and cheaper $-)

spraynpray

My 'old 17-55 / 2.8' is quite good, I doubt 'a lot better' is in the cards, particularly for a variable aperture zoom.

A lot lighter and as good or nearly as good as the 17-55 / 2.8 will do for me, particularly with 1mm wider and 15mm longer.

.... H

I'll settle for almost as good as the 17-55 and cheaper $-)

I think that's because you guys have more money than me.

OK, I'll settle for 'as good', but with minimum 3 stop VR incorporated because the lack of VR is a real negative for me with the 17-55.

haroldp

I agree.

VR would be essential for this lens to succeed in the marketplace, or for me to consider it instead of the 17-55.

... H

Sports

What do you think about the 16-50 F2.0-F2.8 OIS.. Ist it too bad it comes in a mount we nikonites cant use :-(

Probably really great for video, but I have no idea if this Samsung thing is optically good or bad. But .... if there were a similar Nikon lens ....
I think I would prefer the rumored, but slower Nikon, because it goes to 80 mm. And then, I'd bring a faster lens, too.
The f2.8 that the Samsung offers is not really fast for a 50, when you think about it. It's too slow to replace a 50 mm prime, if you ask me. And it doesn't reach far enough for an "always on" lens for my taste, but that's just me :-)
But thumbs up, anyway, to Samsung. Every time someone "steps up" a product, it's worth applauding.

heartyfisher

The reviews I have seen for the Samsung 16-50 F2-2.8 have been stella ! .. it costs a bundle too .. i dont think there should be many complaints regarding reach, ie. its equivalent to 24-75mm FX with VR..

Ryukyu

I think that's because you guys have more money than me.

OK, I'll settle for 'as good', but with minimum 3 stop VR incorporated because the lack of VR is a real negative for me with the 17-55.

Which is why I went with the Sigma 17-50. Their OS is pretty good on this lens.

WestEndFoto

In one of Thomas Hogan's articles, he is downgrading the probability of a professional DX.

sevencrossing

Yes nikon might make a Pro Dx for serious birders who need reach and fps
It will have
24mp dx sensor
15 fps
A big heavy fully weather-sealed metal body

It will be called the D5dx

snakebunk

@sevencrossing: I never know if you are making some kind of joke or if you are serious when you write about dx, but it sounds like an interesting camera. I would be happy though with 10 fps and a D8## style of camera. Don't you think a D820dx is just as possible?

sevencrossing

Don't you think a D820dx is just as possible?

If the rumors are true it seems Nikon can process 20mp @ 15 fps
I think that means they could process 24 @ 12fps
so we might get a D8xx with 50+mp that could shoot at 12fps in Dx mode
but I am not sure if it would all fit in a D810 sized body
The spec of the D5 indicate nikon feel, Pros want high ISO and high fps
MPs and "reach" does not seem so important

Please don't take my dx posts too seriously

snakebunk

Well, I like the idea of selling the same body with different sensors. And if Nikon can make a pro body a little less expensive when there is a dx sensor inside, and if they can make the mirror smaller and swing it a little faster, it could be pretty great. I would like to buy into a family of products with the same accessories, and within that family (or level) I would like to see different size of sensors.

@sevencrossing: I'll remember to take your dx posts with a grain of salt. As long as not almost every post is nonsense I don't mind.

haroldp

Don't you think a D820dx is just as possible?

Pros want high ISO and high fps
MPs and "reach" does not seem so important

Th D3, D4 etc are designed around the needs of photojournalists.

PJ's care primarily about maximizing the chances of 'getting the shot' under the worst possible conditions, which explains high rates, high ISO's, extreme ruggedness etc. IQ of both newsprint (50-70 dpi) and web display (highly compressed jpg) is media limited and a secondary consideration.

I still see d2h's (4.2mp DX) out there occasionally.

The attractiveness of these cameras to other types of photog is good, but coincidental to the main requirements and design process.

... H

WestEndFoto

Well, I like the idea of selling the same body with different sensors. And if Nikon can make a pro body a little less expensive when there is a dx sensor inside, and if they can make the mirror smaller and swing it a little faster, it could be pretty great. I would like to buy into a family of products with the same accessories, and within that family (or level) I would like to see different size of sensors.

@sevencrossing: I'll remember to take your dx posts with a grain of salt. As long as not almost every post is nonsense I don't mind.

Hmmmm.......some would argue that this thread is nonsense. It is certainly entertaining, however.

haroldp

It is the frankenthread. We keep it going out or ornerines.

...H

Msmoto

More nonsense......As my thinking is not always in line with reality, I am wondering if the new D5, with lots of advances, potentially, will now allow a pro DX body which will perform about like the current D4 or D4s....mmmmm??? This could be interesting, and besides, continues the nonsense.... :-))