Anyone know when the Lightroom 5.5 functionality for D810 files will come out? Can't see any previews. I called Adobe yesterday and they said it's not supported. Oh really? Wow, how did I already know that? Anyway, Adobe seems late. Anyone with an idea when they may release this upgrade?
In response to GengisHotep, apparently the only way to use Lightroom 5.5 and the D810 image files is to convert them from nef to dng with the release of DNG Converter 8.6 RC. Adobe Camera Raw 8.6 RC will also support the D810 nef's.
I get the feeling that Adobe is trying to push us to dng. Gosh, they've never done anything manipulative before!
In response to GengisHotep, apparently the only way to use Lightroom 5.5 and the D810 image files is to convert them from nef to dng with the release of DNG Converter 8.6 RC. Adobe Camera Raw 8.6 RC will also support the D810 nef's.
I get the feeling that Adobe is trying to push us to dng. Gosh, they've never done anything manipulative before!
One simple question, is this new camera for sport, motorsport? Why do You need camera like that for garden, flowers?
If you have to ask, you do not understand.
Come on guys .. its a valid question and deserving of a valid answer.. I would also say @faateris please clarify your question as people may be taking it as an insult.
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Moments of Light - D610 D7K S5pro 70-200f4 18-200 150f2.8 12-24 18-70 35-70f2.8 : C&C very welcome! Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.
One simple question, is this new camera for sport, motorsport? Why do You need camera like that for garden, flowers?
Please do not take any offense to the response given; hence, the responders are not "mocking you." It is all in good fun.
The new D810 hight resolution offers the end user a lot of option in photography. It is only the skill of the photographer that will limit his or her capability in getting that shot he or she is after.
Lastly, you did ask two question not "one simple question" :P
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faateras: Any body simply has certain features which make it better, or worse, at certain tasks. For shooting sports most people would select a D4 or D4s because of its speed and low light ability. For landscapes most people would select a D800, D800e or the new D810 because the high megapixel sensor will allow for more detail in large prints. Generally, the D810 will not be a body you will see shooting sporting events. However, it can be quite adequate if you aren't shooting in a dark environment and don't need 10 fps to catch the exact moment. I find I don't need 36 mp for portraits:the 24 mp in my D600 is enough and I am sure I would feel 16 mp is enough if I had a D4. Rather than purchase one $6,000 plus D4s body I prefer to use the same amount of money to purchase a high megapixel FX body ($3,000 for D800); a light weight medium megapixel FX body ($1,700 for refurbished D600) and a DX body ($1,200 for a D7000). Today those would be a D810, D610 and D7100. I just don't shoot the type of subjects where a D4 or D4s shines so I find a better use of the same amount of money is to have a variety of bodies which better suit various uses. When I want maximum detail I can use the D800. When I want to carry around lighter weight I can use the D7000 (or my D5100). When I want a lighter weight body which is still capable of producing very good images which can be printed poster size I can use my D600. It's all good.
After seeing the DxOMark scores of the D810, I think i can live with my "new" used D800E with about 8,000 ticks. Heading for Palm Desert, California soon, a quick look at Route 66 on the way, I will be giving the D800E a test, actually resorting to full frame for a couple of shots. It would appear the D810 might be better for those who may being trying to get a body which can be used in all venues, but if one has a D3s, D4, or D4s, the D800/E would be a fully adequate companion as noted earlier.
I have just looked at a couple of my first shots from the D800E and the sharpness when in DX mode simply amazes me. The D810 is going to be a gal winner, IMO
I'm having one major issue with the new camera. My playing, "practice", time caught up with me yesterday and I had to call clients and delay their orders 24 hours till this morning. I'm find it hard to concentrate on work when I'm thinking about what to try next with it in my hands.
I see, there are not sport photographer's, only garden photographer's.... This was my question. About garden, this was rhetorical.
to WestEndBoy : to make good pic, first is You, and then camera(not obligatory D810)....
Hi Faateris, nice to meet you. I think you are partially right.
I think that I could do 99% of what I do with any DSLR in the Nikon lineup. But I could not compromise with the lens on my garden shots. Oh, I could probably make do with the 85 1.8 instead of the 1.4 or the 105 Macro instead of the 200. But certainly no more. Follow my above photo back to my Flickr account then go to my floral album. Check out the images taken with my Coolpix A which is 2.8 (even slower as it is DX). Compared to the photoes taken with my 85 and 200, they are snapshots. As an aside, I would love to see what Pitchblack could do with flowers, that would be a treat.
Cameras are photon detectors to varying degrees. The real determinant of IQ is the lens.
And of course the photographer is the most important, that is a given.
One simple question, is this new camera for sport, motorsport? Why do You need camera like that for garden, flowers?
This question seems to have wound some people up! I would simply say that the D810 is good for any picture that is to be blown up HUGE. Otherwise, get a D610.
I agree, if you want to make really large prints, get the 810.
I'm one of those crazy people that traded a D800e for an D810. My reason is simple, I like learning and playing with new toys. When I was younger, I had to make purchases based on "need." Now, a simple "want" is sufficient justification. Besides, my wife will not let me play with Ferraris.
Robert M. Poston: D4, D810, V3, 14-24 F2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8, 80-400, 105 macro.
One simple question, is this new camera for sport, motorsport? Why do You need camera like that for garden, flowers?
If you have to ask, you do not understand.
Come on guys .. its a valid question and deserving of a valid answer.. I would also say @faateris please clarify your question as people may be taking it as an insult.
I don’t know if the questions posed were valid or simply a statement made by the poster in a question format. But, assuming the questions were valid, I think several people have already answered them or suggested ways in which the poster can find his/her own answer. When one poses such a broad question it is difficult to formulate a succinct answer. There may be as many individual answers as there are D810 camera owners. Nevertheless here is my take on answering the questions in a more explanatory fashion: Digital cameras have been evolving since inception. This latest version from Nikon, in combination with a variety of lenses, provides the photographer with a tremendous amount of flexibility in how a photograph is composed, how it may be cropped, how much detail is desired, how deep or shallow the depth of field, how much dynamic range can be captured in an image, and how much information is available for manipulation in post processing. The technical capabilities of the camera sensor to capture light in incredible detail allow the photographer to explore his/her vision more thoroughly, and to communicate that vision through an image to others. The D810’s uses are only limited by the skill and imagination of the photographer. Other cameras/lenses provide some or many of these same attributes but to varying and lesser degrees. Some photographers simply prefer to begin with tools that minimize the limitations and maximize the opportunities. Others prefer to use tools that are better suited for a specific purpose although they may sacrifice other capabilities and/or qualities. In the final analysis the choice of a D810 is, like most everything else in life, a value judgment. Yes, a D810 can be used for sports. Yes, a D810 can be used in the garden. It can also be used for landscapes, portraits, architecture, dark sky/astrophotography, macro photography, or most anything else one wants to pursue. Not many of us produce wall sized prints on any kind of regular basis but it is nice to know it can be done while maintaining absolute sharpness and detail. And the D810 has considerable capability as a video camera but since I don’t shoot video I will let someone else comment on that aspect. Digital cameras/sensors/lenses will continue to evolve and people will continue to question why. The ultimate answer is as individual as the photographer’s vision and choice of tools to achieve that vision.
Want D810 vs D600 or D610 Milky Way comparison shots
I like taking Milky Way shots. I hope someone can provide unedited comparison photos samples (of one small section of a scene) at 100 percent of the Milky Way so I can see how the noise is on each using the same lens with a D810 and a D610 or D600. (I own a D600). If someone can provide samples at 30 seconds at 12800 and 6400 ISO with the same f stop and other settings that would be much appreciated. It is dark of the moon this week. Many Thanks.
I screwed up on my first week of trying the new 810. I did not change image quality to RAW and shot the entire week in jpg - normal. I felt like a real beginner. Then after my grandkids went home I got time to look at the picture on a cheap computer I keep at home. WOW, now I understand what "sharp" means. And I understand why Thom Hogan calls his D810 his best "all purpose" camera. http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/every-choice-is-a-problem.html
My daughter is a TV producer. She buys pictures and videos by the hundreds. To make the purchase, she looks at and critiques far too many pictures. She is and my best (i.e. hardest) critic. This was the first time she ever called my pictures "incredible."
Can you marry a camera?
Robert M. Poston: D4, D810, V3, 14-24 F2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8, 80-400, 105 macro.
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One simple question, is this new camera for sport, motorsport?
Why do You need camera like that for garden, flowers?
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One big use: Portraiture.
I get the feeling that Adobe is trying to push us to dng. Gosh, they've never done anything manipulative before!
I would also say @faateris please clarify your question as people may be taking it as an insult.
Being a photographer is a lot like being a Christian: Some people look at you funny but do not see the amazing beauty all around them - heartyfisher.
Faateris, this is why:
The new D810 hight resolution offers the end user a lot of option in photography. It is only the skill of the photographer that will limit his or her capability in getting that shot he or she is after.
Lastly, you did ask two question not "one simple question" :P
This was my question.
About garden, this was rhetorical.
to WestEndBoy : to make good pic, first is You, and then camera(not obligatory D810)....
I have just looked at a couple of my first shots from the D800E and the sharpness when in DX mode simply amazes me. The D810 is going to be a gal winner, IMO
OK... got to get back to work, boooooh. :-B
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I think that I could do 99% of what I do with any DSLR in the Nikon lineup. But I could not compromise with the lens on my garden shots. Oh, I could probably make do with the 85 1.8 instead of the 1.4 or the 105 Macro instead of the 200. But certainly no more. Follow my above photo back to my Flickr account then go to my floral album. Check out the images taken with my Coolpix A which is 2.8 (even slower as it is DX). Compared to the photoes taken with my 85 and 200, they are snapshots. As an aside, I would love to see what Pitchblack could do with flowers, that would be a treat.
Cameras are photon detectors to varying degrees. The real determinant of IQ is the lens.
And of course the photographer is the most important, that is a given.
I'm one of those crazy people that traded a D800e for an D810. My reason is simple, I like learning and playing with new toys. When I was younger, I had to make purchases based on "need." Now, a simple "want" is sufficient justification. Besides, my wife will not let me play with Ferraris.
Digital cameras have been evolving since inception. This latest version from Nikon, in combination with a variety of lenses, provides the photographer with a tremendous amount of flexibility in how a photograph is composed, how it may be cropped, how much detail is desired, how deep or shallow the depth of field, how much dynamic range can be captured in an image, and how much information is available for manipulation in post processing. The technical capabilities of the camera sensor to capture light in incredible detail allow the photographer to explore his/her vision more thoroughly, and to communicate that vision through an image to others. The D810’s uses are only limited by the skill and imagination of the photographer.
Other cameras/lenses provide some or many of these same attributes but to varying and lesser degrees. Some photographers simply prefer to begin with tools that minimize the limitations and maximize the opportunities. Others prefer to use tools that are better suited for a specific purpose although they may sacrifice other capabilities and/or qualities. In the final analysis the choice of a D810 is, like most everything else in life, a value judgment.
Yes, a D810 can be used for sports. Yes, a D810 can be used in the garden. It can also be used for landscapes, portraits, architecture, dark sky/astrophotography, macro photography, or most anything else one wants to pursue. Not many of us produce wall sized prints on any kind of regular basis but it is nice to know it can be done while maintaining absolute sharpness and detail.
And the D810 has considerable capability as a video camera but since I don’t shoot video I will let someone else comment on that aspect.
Digital cameras/sensors/lenses will continue to evolve and people will continue to question why. The ultimate answer is as individual as the photographer’s vision and choice of tools to achieve that vision.
I like taking Milky Way shots. I hope someone can provide unedited comparison photos samples (of one small section of a scene) at 100 percent of the Milky Way so I can see how the noise is on each using the same lens with a D810 and a D610 or D600. (I own a D600). If someone can provide samples at 30 seconds at 12800 and 6400 ISO with the same f stop and other settings that would be much appreciated. It is dark of the moon this week. Many Thanks.
I screwed up on my first week of trying the new 810. I did not change image quality to RAW and shot the entire week in jpg - normal. I felt like a real beginner. Then after my grandkids went home I got time to look at the picture on a cheap computer I keep at home. WOW, now I understand what "sharp" means. And I understand why Thom Hogan calls his D810 his best "all purpose" camera. http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/every-choice-is-a-problem.html
My daughter is a TV producer. She buys pictures and videos by the hundreds. To make the purchase, she looks at and critiques far too many pictures. She is and my best (i.e. hardest) critic. This was the first time she ever called my pictures "incredible."
Can you marry a camera?