D810, All Discussions, Questions

spsfoto

The only thing I don't like so far is doing post in NX-D.

Ignoring that side of things. I love the D810. Very, very happy with it.

autofocus

B&H have the D810 in stock, ready to ship for those thinking about it.

Sanook

^ For those 'thinking about it' , stop thinking and act. The D810 is sure to impress.

:P

Symphotic

EDIT:

I just completed transferring assets (selling my D800) for a D810. That clicking sound you hear is pulling of the trigger.

The buyer of my D800 is a very happy camper. His first full frame DSLR. I threw in a Nikkor 50 mm f/1.4 that I don't use, but I'm sure he will.

Symphotic

@framer: I'm starting to feel an itch....

You know what happens when you scratch an itch?

You bleed.

Golf007sd

@framer: I'm starting to feel an itch....

You know what happens when you scratch an itch?

You bleed.

I have plenty of scars...trust me.

BabaGanoush

Why would anyone--especially anyone who already owns a D800/E---buy the D810 this close to Photokina, instead of waiting maybe 4-6 weeks to hear what new products Nikon might be releasing soon? Is there something magical about early release cameras? Oh, yeah, they come with free oil spots and bad AF focus at no extra cost. [/snarc]

PB_PM

Not to mention the early adopter tax.

Hubert

I have replaced my D800e and took the D810 and I am more than happy with it. From the first shots I was really delighted. My experience with the D800e was much more complicated and it took several weeks to get satisfied with it. For me the D810 was the best purchase since long. I also use D7100 and D600 but the new one is my hands down favorite.

framer

Not to mention the early adopter tax.

No. You get the body you want early, learn to use it well, enjoy it and take great images. vs wait till the last minute before you need it, not take the time to learn the systems and miss that great image because your head in the menu.

You also will have it in your hands longer before you want the next best gizmo.

Money not worth much anymore. I just noticed that 5 cent 1965 candy bar was $1.29 at the local drug store counter. King size was $1.89 That 26 times more cost. So, 3300/26 = $126.92 that's cheaper than an F in 1965. You can check the price of gold and silver from 1965 to today and find similar increases. Now a political statement, when we sell an investment that we held for 50 years we have to pay capital gains tax on the inflated amount which drives down it's purchasing power.

The point is, buy your camera now before it cost more or your money worth less or worthless.

framer

henrik1963

@Framer: Your story tells me to wait - things get cheaper. Or am I missing something? On the other hand: Who is willing to wait for 50 years? :-)

JonMcGuffin

Bottom line is that the D810 has been out in circulation and sitting in very competent photographic hands now for plenty long enough to flush out any supposed "early adopter" issues if there were going to be any. If you're going to get one, maybe it behooves you to wait a little while and cash in on a 4% rebate from Adorama or B&H, but other than that, there really shouldn't be any fear that something massive is going to be problematic in the D810 like we saw in the D800 and D600. Only minor quibble at this point would be poor RAW support but this will just be a matter of time before that's all up to date.

framer

@Framer: Your story tells me to wait - things get cheaper. Or am I missing something? On the other hand: Who is willing to wait for 50 years? :-)

The point I was trying to really making was $3300 does not have much value today, It won't even make a good down payment on a car.

framer

henrik1963

@framer: Buying a new car? Just leaving the dealership you have lost more than that :-)

I get a lot of joy out of my D800 and see nothing wrong in buying a camera you like :-)

Symphotic

I buy when first released for a number of reasons. One is that I enjoy new technology. Half of my photography is in my lab, by myself, and I can use my V1, D800 or even my iPhone. These photographs actually make money. But I also get out and about with my customers, who buy imaging systems from me, and by having the latest myself I think it helps create a better brand image for our company. Besides, a single field job will more than pay the cost of a new lens, strobe, and sometimes even a body. The rest of the time I can take my camera to shoot pictures of my travels or my family.

In the case of the D810, since the D800 has a fair resale value, the step up is not prohibitively expensive and there are some features I think I might benefit from. It is actually cheaper to go from a D800 to a D810 than to wait for the next generation when the D800 will fetch much less money. (Digital bodies depreciate quickly.)

In an average year, after the initial investment, it only costs about $250/month to keep our equipment up to date. (I spend $250 on a single torque screwdriver that I give away to customers.) I know people who spend much more than that on hobbies that they can't use on the job. I'm not really trying to justify my profligate spending: I like my job and I like my hobby, and I am very pleased that I get to pretty much get paid to do what I like to do, including having the latest equipment.

I could get by spending less, and if I didn't use my camera on my job, I would, but let's enjoy!

PB_PM

Not to mention the early adopter tax.

No. You get the body you want early, learn to use it well, enjoy it and take great images. vs wait till the last minute before you need it, not take the time to learn the systems and miss that great image because your head in the menu.

You also will have it in your hands longer before you want the next best gizmo.

framer

I guess if having the latest and greatest is what matters the most to you, that's fine and dandy. I'm not one of those people. I buy cameras to take pictures, not boast about having the latest gizmo. I didn't get the D800 till last spring and I don't feel cheated in the least by waiting. I saved a boat load of money, $600 less than release price, and still got a great camera that is for all intensive purposes is still top of the line. I do not feel cheated by the arrival of the D810, because the D800 still works just as well as it did when it first arrived. So does my D700 for that matter. I'm sure not paying $1500 more than selling price of the D800 for the removal of the AA filter and 1FPS (D800 video is good enough for my needs, so those updates are irrelevant).

Will I get a D810 some day? Yup, from someone like you who has to have the latest and greatest, puts 5-15k on the shutter and then sells it for half the new price at the first sign of something new. :P

Golf007sd

I buy when first released for a number of reasons....These photographs actually make money....from me...having the latest...helps create a better brand image for our company....I like my job and I like my hobby, and I am very pleased that I get to pretty much get paid to do what I like to do, including having the latest equipment.

+1 on all those point. Your understanding of how your business works, justifies your action. Wish you all the best

Will I get a D810 some day? Yup, from someone like you who...puts 5-15k on the shutter and then sells it for half the new price...

I love it when I find a good deal on the secondary market. Like they say: "patience is a virtue."
But don't get me wrong, when I know I want something new coming to market , I have no problem buying it. I never let the devaluation of electronic gear spoil my appetite. I fully understand, moreover, expect a newer model will have better feature, at or above what I paid for the original gear.

Symphotic

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+1 on all those point. Your understanding of how your business works, justifies your action. Wish you all the best
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Thanks for the kind words. I just got a call to make an installation procedure video, but my D800 is gone, my D810 isn't here yet, and I don't know how to run my old Panasonic video camera anymore! I'll try to do it with my V1 and an external mic.

Sanook

Interesting that some people seem so bitter about other people getting new gear, they feel the need to make snide remarks online. Green eyes ?

Live & let live.

PB_PM

Will I get a D810 some day? Yup, from someone like you who...puts 5-15k on the shutter and then sells it for half the new price...

I love it when I find a good deal on the secondary market. Like they say: "patience is a virtue."
But don't get me wrong, when I know I want something new coming to market , I have no problem buying it.

Exactly. The D800 was the first camera I bought used, the shutter count was just over 300 when I got it, but at a highly reduced price from a local camera dealer I know and trust. The fine folks at Nikon Canada honoured the warranty when I had a problem, so no issue with support. Would I have bought the D800 at full price if I had not found that deal? Yes. Would I buy the D810 today if I did not have a D800? You bet.

On my part there is no bitterness of envy, for my purposes the D800 is just as good as the D810. I made the comments I did about the early adopter tax simply because I wouldn't pay it. Experience has taught me that patience is often worth while. If I had a business that required the updated features of the D810 would I get one on day one? Most likely not. As a business I need gear I can trust and know is reliable, thus being an early adopter is not done. I usually wait till a product is on the market for at least a few months before buying in, regardless of what it is.

Golf007sd

As a business I need gear I can trust and know is reliable, thus being an early adopter is not done. I usually wait till a product is on the market for at least a few months before buying in, regardless of what it is.

I would agree that any "new" product coming to market, those bring some level of uncertainty and risk of not fully living up to expectations. Back in 2010, their was a great deal of hype behind the D7000...it was going to be my first step in the full D-SLR world. Nikon did not let me down; nor did they with its successor.

With respect to D810, I would like to believe that Nikon has learned from its errors; as they say, "second time is a charm."

The D810 is going to bring many new comers to our side of the aisle. Let us all embrace them and point them in the right direction.

henrik1963

@Sanook: I don't see any bitterness expressed in this thread.

I think it fair to question the wisdom of dumping your D800 for a D810. If you have the money and if one of the new features will make or brake your images and there is no workaround - then by all means go ahead.

But for most people it will make no practical difference if you have a D800 or a D810.

If someone offered to trade my used D800 for a new D810 I would do the trade as I think the D810 will turn out to be a better camera. But I´m afraid I would not see a difference in the final output.

AtomicPunk

I am in the process of testing my D810 with my lenses. So far I didn't have any focus issues with the Nikon 24-70 2.8. Center, Left and Right are all tack sharp.
There is a big issue with the Sigma 35mm 1.4 Art lens. The center is tack sharp but both the left and right points are way out of focus. My lens has the latest firmware. I just contacted Sigma to see if they are aware of the issue. I believe this was an issue early on with this lens and some of the older bodies, but it was corrected with the latest firmware release. Thank good for the dock.
Anyone else test this lens with the D810 and try the left most and right most single point AF with the lens wide open (f1.4)?

AtomicPunk

I believe I may have fixed this by using a +10 adjustment across the board using the USB dock connector and updating the lens. This would equate to a +20 in the camera.

This is strange because none of my other lenses needed any kind of adjustment.

Nikon 24-70, 85 1.4 and 70-200 2.8

My Sigma 120-300 2.8 Sport also did not need adjustment.

I still believe a firmware update will tighten up this lens. I used it with minimum adjustment on my D800E and D4.

I'll update this thread once Sigma produces a new firmware and if it impacts my adjustment settings.

Symphotic

I will pick up a new D810 this evening and perhaps take a look at how it performs with the Sigma 50 compared to a D800 tonight or tomorrow if I have time. I have found with both D800s we had here the Sigma responds well to tweaking with the USB dock.

I'll also report back on workflow compatibility. There are lots of experiments I want to try!
I know I need to make money to pay for all this fun, but it would be nice to have no customer calls tomorrow so I can try things out all day.

I just found out I have been offered a gig in November on the Caspian Sea that will pay for the D810: I'll travel economy class.