D810, All Discussions, Questions

Vipmediastar_JZ

@sandi_ece your best bet is to give bNh a call or use the chat function

JJ_SO

I have three D800 cameras and I think I'm doing ok...

Yes you are so you can sell two of them, get a D810 and keep one D800 for sentimental reasons.

Well, take your time. One day you will try a D810 and then ask yourself "why wasn't I listening to that JJ_SO guy?" Honestly, "doing alright" - that's already enough??? Speedy reliable AF? Not interested? You? Ha!

JonMcGuffin

Of course not owning a D810 or a D800 for that matter probably makes my comment irrelevant but consider also you could sell two d800's and get one d810 and be a good measure toward the sigma 120-300 as well. Save money! Lose one camera but who needs 3 anyway right?

henrik1963

Maybe we just need a "this-shot-was-taken-with-a-D810-and-it-could-not-have-been-taken-with-a-D800-shot" to be convinced that we absolutely need to upgrade :-)

Golf007sd

PitchBlack knows exactly what he is doing. Nothing about his work is "ok" to say the least. Moreover, he knows perfectly where to invest his capital and skills.

Keep on, keeping on amigo.....

Golf007sd

spraynpray

OMG that vid has me drooling on my keyboard...

JonMcGuffin

PitchBlack knows exactly what he is doing. Nothing about his work is "ok" to say the least. Moreover, he knows perfectly where to invest his capital and skills.

Keep on, keeping on amigo.....

Damn straight...

JonMcGuffin

Does Moose realize that picture control settings have ZERO ramifications on picture quality when you're shooting in RAW? He makes mention of this several times and doesn't appear to know this.

JJ_SO

If he uses Nikon NX-2 or NX-D, picture control settings are used as parameters. Those settings are only ignored by non-Nikon software. Therefore it has impact.

spraynpray

I would prefer it if LR used those settings as a starting point for the editing of the RAW image, it would cut down my work.

haroldp

Maybe we just need a "this-shot-was-taken-with-a-D810-and-it-could-not-have-been-taken-with-a-D800-shot" to be convinced that we absolutely need to upgrade :-)

Talking about stills only, Unless it is taken at the end of a continuous string of shots that would have exceeded a D800 buffer capacity, or perhaps a tripod mounted macro using electronic front curtain shutter, I do not see how any such assertion would be credible.

I am planning on buying a D810 because I shoot moving wildlife, and the combination of faster auto focus, higher frame rates, and larger buffer improve my chances. I will also keep my D800e and do not expect any visible IQ difference between the two in actual captures.

Regards .... H

donaldejose

There is not a quantum leap in IQ which encourages a D800 user to switch to a D810, especially if you are not printing poster size and larger. However, there are a number of functional improvements which may be very significant to certain D800 users. It is these functional improvements which Rockwell and Moose are talking about. They may or may not be significant to you. However, it is nice to know that Nikon is paying detailed attention to user functionality when doing an upgrade. I use my D800 mostly for landscapes so the fact that it has a louder shutter, slower fps, slower focusing, etc are not significant factors to justify an upgrade. Others may find some of those functional improvements highly significant to them.

JonMcGuffin

If he uses Nikon NX-2 or NX-D, picture control settings are used as parameters. Those settings are only ignored by non-Nikon software. Therefore it has impact.

Do they perhaps affect only the burred .jpg file inside the RAW file and thus when the RAW converter goes to open, it can read those processing que's and apply them as a starting point for the RAW? That must be it.

Either way, I enjoy Moose as he is a very frank and honest man. I'm surprised we've not seen any cuts on him yet as being a "paid Nikon guy" to try and discredit his comments.

haroldp

@ donaldjose
I agree completely.

... H

PB_PM

Does Moose realize that picture control settings have ZERO ramifications on picture quality when you're shooting in RAW? He makes mention of this several times and doesn't appear to know this.

Yes he does, but it does have ramifications if you are shooting video.

Either way, I enjoy Moose as he is a very frank and honest man. I'm surprised we've not seen any cuts on him yet as being a "paid Nikon guy" to try and discredit his comments.

Not saying he's not honest, but you do need to keep that in mind. He never says anything even remotely negative in his Nikon reviews, because he isn't allowed to.

Vipmediastar_JZ

I did a 15 min test on the D810 at the local chain store.

It had the 50 1.8g and let me tell you at f1.8 it is spot on.

The grip itself is a major improvement. Unlike my D800 that I could only appreciate a good grip with the Battery grip the D810 excels in this.

The shutter is quiet like the Df and my D800 is slightly but noticably louder but quieter post repair.

Live view seems more robust. I never liked live view shooting but it works well here.

The white OLED viewfinder is a welcome change.

Focus inside the store was average. I didnt't have too much time or subjects to test but I can say that it delivers. Everything was in focus and sharp.

One thing that I noticed in the menu, while present on the D600, DF and missing on the D800 (from memory) is that the D810 e4 Exposure comp for flash the Option to affect the entire frame or background only is available.

The substantial upgrades may seem low and the IQ the same but this made me wish the D800 was the D810 years ago.

I asked for a camera but it was out of stock. I'm leaning towards reaplacing the D800 with it.
I would immediately replace my beloved DF too but I like that camera for the high iso and portability.

I could end up paying the balance or selling a few items and have a clean trade.
I'm not in a hurry but I will start the exchange process and hopefully by then LR is more effecient with the raw files.

For those of you that have had no issues with f1.4-f2.8 congrats you are lucky and I envy you as I was doubting myself for a while up until I got the Df and now the D810 tests prove that it wasn't really user error after all.

proudgeek

VIP, I'm glad NAS isn't fatal, otherwise we'd have carved your tombstone a long time ago.

Have fun if you get it.

Symphotic

For the OS X users, Digital Camera RAW 5.06 update was just released with no D810 support as yet. It does support the V3. I think DCR 5.02 took care of the Df, and it was released in December. At that rate they are doing a new update every 2 months, so there might be a wait.

Lightroom and Bridge as well as Nikon's capture NX-D all work with the D810 Raw files.

Rx4Photo

I asked for a camera but it was out of stock.

(In my best mellow psychiatrist voice) ... and how did that make you feel?

If I feel relief after being told something's out of stock, I run!!

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Vipmediastar_JZ

@proudgeek as long as there is not much loss in money on the trade it is all good. I don't use much of the studio lights and that is probably going this year too. I like what the wireless TTL and Speedlights are doing.

It is only becuase I plan to make this a career move that I'm learning and investing. Otherwise this NAS syndrome would be fatal and I would need some help.

@Rx4Photo I wasn't dissapointed and I called one of the stores for a quote but they were closed and I wasn't dissapoined either.
I just wished that all this frustration to get focus with the D800 was never an issue.

I went out and shot at 1.4 and I can say the D800 is much better post repair.

Getting the most now for the trade is the only reason to do it now but I have a good week to try the D800 wide open until the local chain store gets another shipment.

Photobug

I saw the post on the main board for the D800 refurbrished for $1999,99 and thought it was an excellent deal. I just checked and they sold out on eBay.

The local camera store manager sent me a note last night, he has three used D800. He sold all three cameras to three local photographers and over a span of a week they all upgraded to the D810. Here is what I know:

D800 with ~27K activations, $2,199 + 5.5% sales tax
D800 with ~9K activations, $2,199 + 5.5% sales tax
D800 with 18 actual shutter activations, $2,299 + 5.5% sales tax

Regarding the last one, yes when it was traded in the dealer took one picture and checked the exif data and that made it 18 shutter activations. It looks like it came right out of the box. The guy bought it 3 months ago and has a very busy job and has had no time to take pictures. Every things is there. He walked into the store and told them he wants the new D810 so they took it on trade. Unbelievable.

These camera won't be for sale until he lists them in the state police department database. Once he is notified they are not stolen, about 7 -10 days, then he will put them up for sale on their web site and in the store. Since he sold them to these guys he knows they are not stolen but he must comply with store policy and wait until he is notified.

I stopped to talk to him today and he does not want to sell them to out of state customers. If there are any NRF members who are interested in a used D800, send me a PM. I would be happy to help any NRF members and buy one and send to you.

Photobug

For those considering buying a D810, here is an excellent YouTube video of the differences between the D800 and D810:

MotionLA

I'm a Canon Video shooter, but the Nikon D810 seems to blow every other DSLR and mirrorless camera out of the water in terms of sharpness and dynamic range in video mode. It easily beats every Canon DSLR, not sure vs the C100. It also appears to easily beat out the new Sony A7S 1080P mode in sharpness and beat out the GH4 (4K down-sampled to 1080P) in dynamic range.

I haven't seen a D810 in person, but my one question would be is the D810 "Live View Video Focus Assist" sharp and truly useful for focusing? I briefly had a D7100 and was disappointed with that feature on the D7100. I do Run-N-Gun type videos using a Zacuto Z-Finder so live view focus assist is important to me.
Thanks

[Deleted User]

For the - Night - photographers, there is a Nikon D810 Thermal Noise issue.

http://photographylife.com/nikon-d810-thermal-noise-issue

Hope there will be a very quick firmware update for this.