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Could the D7000 and the D300s merge ? it is difficult to see how the D7000 is aimed at the consumer and part time professional the D300 was aimed at the full time professionalat lot of professions, full time and part time, now use FX and that is exactly what Nikon want if as suggested, the the D7200 comes out next with 24 mp , I think we cant forget a D300s replacement
<I think that needs to be reversed,
Maybe the reason we are not hearing anything from Nikon on the D300/s replacement is simply because there will be no replacement.
What is the Canon D300s equivalent
<I think that needs to be reversed,
but lets go back to the time the D300 was launched The body and controls of the D300 were virtually identical to the D700the D300 big advantage was price It was very attractive to professionals switching from film to digital If the D400 came out today, In order to provide the "pro" features people want it would probably have to have the same body as a D800 but with an DX sensorThe big question ? could be, made and sold, significantly cheaper than the D800Given the success of the D800 Nikon may have recoup its R&D and tool up costsSo a new camera might be more expensive not cheaper Time will tell what we get
I can't - really can't - believe they will leave this market sector out of their plans. There will be a D400. Perhaps there will be a complete change - like mirrorless - after the D400 and so they are stretching it out to give the best traditional DSLR they can to last pro's maybe 5 years.
.....We are also at the point where the mirrorless design will become at some point in the future, the primary camera for all pro and consumer folks. .....It may be that the major folks are all wondering who is going to be the one to grab the market with a pro level mirrorless, either crop or full sensor, and my suspicions are, they are all trying for it.Thus, I can understand at a very minimal level why we have not seen a "D400" yet. Maybe Nikon is going to try and bridge the "pro" DX camera with a D7200, and then bring out a crop sensor mirrorless with phenomenal performance. And of course, eventually come through with a full sensor mirrorless "D5m"Well, just my thoughts today......frustrated at no D400...... :-O
Don't worry, in the same way you can change the "sound" on a smart phone, you will be able have have any sound you like , or none at all
....as the D300, D200, D100 all came before and set the path for a D700.
but lets go back to the time the D300 was launched
The body and controls of the D300 were virtually identical to the D700
the D300 big advantage was price
It was very attractive to professionals switching from film to digital
If the D400 came out today, In order to provide the "pro" features people want it would probably have to have the same body as a D800 but with an DX sensor
The big question ? could be, made and sold, significantly cheaper than the D800
Given the success of the D800 Nikon may have recoup its R&D and tool up costs
So a new camera might be more expensive not cheaper
Time will tell what we get
What is the Canon D300s equivalent and how does it perform in those areas by comparison? I ask because I wonder why Nikon would put it's best sensor in a consumer camera like the D5200/D7100 and leave nowhere to go for the D400?
Lots of reviews of the 7D vs the D300s
most suggest if you are a Nikon user stick with Nikon
if you are Canon fodder, stay with Canon
the Canon equivalent of the D400 is the 7D mark II
More fodder...My understanding of Nikon's goal is to overtake Canon in the consumer and pro camera industry. The largest factor which has created problems for their plans to have come to fruition is most likely the Tsunami in Japan and the floods in Thailand.
These were major setbacks for nikon and in no way can they be ignored in any new camera development. With the problems in the D800 and D600, they may have simply taken a step back so as to not bring out anything which will have the major issues of these two cameras. Another disaster, and Nikon would be hurting.
We are also at the point where the mirrorless design will become at some point in the future, the primary camera for all pro and consumer folks. No one knows when the break through will occur, nor what the real progress is inside Nikon, Canon, etc. in the perfection of this design for the professional market.
The mirrorless design also opens up an entire new area for wide angle lenses which are no longer retro focus design. And the lack of distortion, flatter fields of focus, larger coverage for the PC lenses, all suggest we will see a total development effort on many fronts.
It may be that the major folks are all wondering who is going to be the one to grab the market with a pro level mirrorless, either crop or full sensor, and my suspicions are, they are all trying for it.
Thus, I can understand at a very minimal level why we have not seen a "D400" yet. Maybe Nikon is going to try and bridge the "pro" DX camera with a D7200, and then bring out a crop sensor mirrorless with phenomenal performance. And of course, eventually come through with a full sensor mirrorless "D5m"
Well, just my thoughts today......frustrated at no D400...... :-O
Have you ever held a D300 &/or D700? You have been around long enough on here that I think you would have. It shouldn't be any surprise what it would be.
The D300 did not pull nor was the catalyst to get pros to move from film. It has always been an Advanced Amateur system, that appealed to people who either couldn't afford or need a pro body. Wedding photogs on a budget, wildlife shooters, birders, etc. Basically anyone who wanted the AF, Metering, Bit depth, of the pro system bought this for $3,000 less. The history of the D300 series didn't suddenly change and has always had the same group buying it.
I'm getting bad deja vue reading this thread!
For years now, Nikon has always kept me guessing!
I am OK with a mirrorless NEX type camera as a second camera ONLY or if I am 95 and can hardly carry more than a few hundred grams on my neck or I have near zero eyesight ... But I just don't want to live to see the day it takes over the professional market ! All those photographers along tennis courts shooting rectangular boxes with tubes - scaaarry ! !
I suspect sports, action and wildlife shooters will be the last to move to mirrorless simply because mirrorless cameras cannot focus fast enough, even the best of them.
somewhere on the old form, there is a " when will get a true replacement for D700" thread
Tao yes I have used a D700 and a D300 as you say one of the big improvements on the D700 was the lager view finder . For me one of the big disadvantages of Dx, is the small view finder and one reason I feel a D400 may not be popular with sport photographers
*Tao -Please don't take this post too seriously. I know, I should get to editing yesterday's shoot)
And, the noise of the shutter is something which has always been an objectionable feature since the day of my Canon 7 which was almost a client. My two old "F" bodies do make a very nice sound, but for a lot of venues, e.g., church, the sound is less than desirable.
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The D300s or the D7000 would be a decent upgrade after the D40. Both of these bodies feature a built in focus motor, which means they can be used with older AF Nikkor lenses as well. As both camera models are due to an upgrade, I would wait with the purchase, but as you said, we don't have information on future product releases, so I don't want you to have false expectations regarding our future cameras.
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So Nikon themselves have suggested that I wait. Sounds interesting.
And I have been editing a lot! Don't do this stuff normally but I think some are turning out.
I am astonished that anyone believes that e-mailing, writing, or trying to speak to a company about unannounced future products is going to produce anything but a canned message. They are NEVER going to tell you anything. If someone send you something off script, they will get fired. Your curiosity is not worth their job, and their job is not important enough to know anything either.
Unless you are one of the a celebrity photogs (McNally, Kelby, Hobby) with some great idea for a release promo, you are not going to get anything.
And stop reading into it - they did not actually write it. As one who was assigned to a committee once to help create the "standard" messages when customers wrote, called, emailed into a company - I can't believe that anyone would think they are important enough to find this information out. The company I worked for made 25 different canned messages to reply to one issue, each one meant to try to make the person think you "the reply-er" was trying to hide something in it, just so they would go away. Sorry, but that's the sad truth.
Major product releases for public companies in this realm are a big deal - the wrong slip could send a companies stock into free-fall and effect their ability to actually conduct business. You may not think it is that big of a deal, but it really is when your stock is tied to future performance, and future products.