D300s Successor-D400, what and when

Photobug

Love the Dh....A dead horse is better than a dead house.

DaveyJ

Finally know enough about the D750 to know it is NOT the camera I want. I have been contacting Nikon about a D7200. The immediate shift of the D750 when a DX lens is connected despite owning several FX lens, means no interest in the D750 for our purchase here.

WestEndBoy

The "immediate shift" of what? I am not following what this is and why it is important.

PB_PM

Finally know enough about the D750 to know it is NOT the camera I want. I have been contacting Nikon about a D7200. The immediate shift of the D750 when a DX lens is connected despite owning several FX lens, means no interest in the D750 for our purchase here.

You do realize that like all FX bodies you can turn that off right?

Andrewz

I think there will eventually be a D400/D9300 the best evidence for this is the existence of the Canon 7D markII and the gap in the price points between the D7100 and D610.

But I don't think it will be in the form factor I'd like. I suspect the large all metal framed camera is only going to be reserved for the top Pro cameras. I think the D750 is fore shadowing the future and Nikon is moving to smaller bodied cameras. No rear focus button on the D750, so sad.

In my opinion the D200/D300 is the perfect size but again I doubt we'll see that size camera again. Nikon will fill the empty spot in their lineup but it will look more like the D7100.

WestEndBoy

Thoughtful.

Photobug

No rear focus button on the D750, so sad.

In my opinion the D200/D300 is the perfect size but again I doubt we'll see that size camera again. Nikon will fill the empty spot in their lineup but it will look more like the D7100.

You do realize that you can reassign the AE/AF button to work like the AF button?

Extremely good point about the D200/D300 body size. After reading the main blog about the D750 body I agree with you. That body size will only be seen for Pro DSLR's.

WestEndBoy

I definitely like holding something substantial in my hand.

Photobug

Me too @WestEndBoy. Look through this forum and you will see repeated comments from me about "bigger is better" for me.

Andrewz

D750 Approx. 140.5 x 113 x 78 mm/5.6 x 4.5 x 3.1 in.
D810 Approx. 146 x 123 x 81.5 mm/5.8 x 4.9 x 3.3 in.
D610 Approx. 141 x 113 x 82 mm/ 5.6 x 4.4 x 3.2 in.
D300s Approx. 147 x 114 x 74 mm (5.8 x 4.5 x 2.9 in.)
D7100 Approx. 135.5 x 106.5 x 76 mm/5.3 x 4.2 x 3.0 in.

D810 wins on size. To bad Nikon didn't just build the D750 in a D300 body, everything would fit!

The D750 is the first new camera that I've truly considered for replacing my D300 but I won't be getting rid of my DX lens anytime soon. I will keep my D300 and consider a D400/D9300 when it does arrive.

Sports

Ok, it's official, the Canonists got their "D400".
As expected, it's very fast (10 fps), and it has a small motor for reducing vibration at high speed.
These are features that a "consumer grade" D7200 would not get, I guess, so ..... D400/D9300 is still needed :-)
Edit: the initial price tag says $1800.

Sports

Yes there is a market for a Pro DX but I think it is a small one.

Luckily there is. Nikon often adress small markets. D4s, df, D3x, ... Of course the pro DX segment is not a large one. Part of the reason is - obviously - that Nikon doesn't offer such a product. Then the segment is bound to get smaller.
But you still see even really small local shops carry the Canon 7D. And you see 7Ds as well as D300s in the field. I'm sure many are very happy with the format, and not at all eager to pay more to get a "consumer" FX.

snakebunk

I think Nikon have made a Policy decision, that when people want to go pro or upgrade, they want them to move up to FX. This is clear from the lack of DX pro lenses

You may be right about the policy decision. I am not sure that the lack of pro dx lenses show anything though. I think most pro or enthusiast photographers want fx lenses that they can use on both their fx and dx cameras.

If you think the 7D MkII is better than any Camera in the Nikon range, we at NRF are not going to stop you from buying one

Thank you!

spraynpray

7D2 is out - C'mon Nikon, show us what ya got!

Some very pissed off people about no WI-FI on the 7D2.

WestEndBoy

I am amazed that it took 5 years to update the 7D1. I am sure that lots of people were complaining about that. Puts our own complaints in perspective.

safyre

So is Nikon just going to Let the 7DMk2 gobble up all the sales without any competition?

Let's check out those 7dmk2 specs...

GPS is in the camera
20.2MP APS-C Sensor
Dual Pixel CMOS AF
Dual DIGIC 6 Processors
65 AF points “All Cross-type”. Dual cross on the center point.
f/8 on center point at least, could be on more points.
10fps
ISO 100-16000, ISO Boost mode 25600 and 51200 (updated this to 16000)
1080p/720p both get 60fps
Servo AF for video shooting.
Anti-flicker mode, eliminates flickers under flickering lights (e.g. fluorescent lamps).
Built-in flash
Intervalometer
Mic and headphones connectors
Can sync time between 7D II cameras.
Lens electronic MF
About 100% coverage OVF

Sounds like a pretty badass camera to me. Definitely a worthwhile notch above the D7100 in pricing.

donaldejose

It will . . . . if the moderators don't cut it off. Please don't. Let the angst flow . . . it's therapeutic!

Photobug

D750 Approx. 140.5 x 113 x 78 mm/5.6 x 4.5 x 3.1 in.
D810 Approx. 146 x 123 x 81.5 mm/5.8 x 4.9 x 3.3 in.
D610 Approx. 141 x 113 x 82 mm/ 5.6 x 4.4 x 3.2 in.
D300s Approx. 147 x 114 x 74 mm (5.8 x 4.5 x 2.9 in.)
D7100 Approx. 135.5 x 106.5 x 76 mm/5.3 x 4.2 x 3.0 in.

D810 wins on size. To bad Nikon didn't just build the D750 in a D300 body, everything would fit!

@Andrewz thanks for putting this table together. I had planned to put this together along with the LCD screen size and # of dots. You saved me some work...thank you. So the D750 is bigger than my D7100 - I like that. And more important it's 6.5mm shorter and 1mm narrower and 4mm thicker than the D300 which is close. In summary, Not as big as the D300 or D810 but close.

I am on a wait list when they arrive in stock to stop in and check it out. I really need to handle the camera. Otherwise the specs and features will work for me.

Thank you for the work on the dimensions.

Photobug

Ok, it's official, the Canonists got their "D400".
As expected, it's very fast (10 fps), and it has a small motor for reducing vibration at high speed.
These are features that a "consumer grade" D7200 would not get, I guess, so ..... D400/D9300 is still needed :-) Edit: the initial price tag says $1800.

I got an email from Roberts Camera and saw the specs on the new Canon. Canon has a big advantage on Nikon for the DX body. Too bad.

It hurts to provide this info knowing that Canon has jumped ahead of Nikon in the DX market and Nikon has nothing to match it. Darn...darn....and darn. Happy I moved on last year. Here are the details on the EOS 7D Mark 11:

The Canon EOS 7D Mark II digital SLR camera is designed to meet the demands of photographers and videographers who want a camera that can provide a wide range of artistic opportunities. With a winning combination of cutting-edge operations and a robust, ergonomic design, it is optimized to make even the most challenging photography simple and easy. The EOS 7D Mark II features a refined APS-C sized 20.2 Megapixel CMOS sensor with Dual DIGIC 6 Image Processors for gorgeous imagery. It shoots up to 10 frames per second at ISOs ranging from 100–16000 (expandable to H1: 25600, H2: 51200), has a 65-point* all cross-type AF system and features Canon's amazing Dual Pixel CMOS AF for brilliant Live-View AF. It has dual card slots for both CF and SD cards, USB 3.0 connectivity and even has built-in GPS** for easy location tagging, automatically. Compatible with an ever-expanding collection of EF and EF-S lenses plus a host of EOS accessories, the EOS 7D Mark II is an ideal tool for creative and ambitious photography.

20.2 Megapixel CMOS (APS-C) sensor and ISO 100-16000

The EOS 7D Mark II has a newly designed 20.2 Megapixel sensor that delivers high-resolution image files with stunning detail and impressive clarity. Optimized for low-light shooting, the EOS 7D Mark II's sensor captures images at up to ISO 16000 (expandable to H1: 25600, H2: 51200) with remarkably low noise, thanks to its improved, higher sensitivity design. Phenomenal for stills, the EOS 7D Mark II's sensor is equally up to the task for movies, delivering Full HD capture even at rates of up to 60p.

Dual DIGIC 6 Image Processors

The EOS 7D Mark II's sensor works seamlessly with its Dual DIGIC 6 Image Processors for advanced image processing across the board. These image processors help the EOS 7D Mark II capture up to 1090 JPEG, 31 RAW, and 19 RAW + JPEG shots in a single burst for amazing action photography. Further, they enable the camera's powerful image processing on-the-fly: lens aberration, variances in peripheral illumination and image distortion can all be corrected in real time thanks to the EOS 7D Mark II's Dual DIGIC 6 Image Processors.

High speed continuous shooting up to 10.0 fps allows you to capture fast action

With a new, rugged shutter designed for 200,000 cycles, the EOS 7D Mark II can shoot up to 10 frames per second to capture all the action. With super quick AF and exposure systems complementing the shutter's 55 msec shutter release time lag, the EOS 7D Mark II is tailored to meet and even exceed the speed of the action. Refined mechanics like a newly designed, more efficient shutter-drive motor and a vibration dampened mirror drive mean impressive performance for high caliber image quality, fast.

Sophisticated Mirror Control System

The EOS 7D Mark II camera employs an advanced mirror vibration control technology that enables the camera to support its speedy, continuous shooting capabilities while ensuring great image quality. The system uses a motor to help reduce the vibrations caused by high-speed shooting. By reducing the vibrations, the camera can achieve accurate and precise autofocus to provide steady and clear action shots at up to 10.0 frames per second.

Photobug

Part 2 of the EOS 7D Mark II
Brilliant, Speedy AF Tracking.

An EOS first, the EOS 7D Mark II features 65 all cross-type AF points* for high precision AF at remarkable speed. Cross-type AF points ensure stable AF that is not influenced by the subject's shape or color. On the EOS 7D Mark II, the AF points are spread over a wide area of the frame, enabling faster AF, wherever the subject lies. With a central dual cross-type AF point of f/2.8, AF is enhanced with lenses faster than f/2.8. And thanks to this new system, AF is possible even in dim lighting as low as EV-3 (center point only).

*The number of available AF points, and whether single line or cross-type, varies depending on the lens.

Achieve Impressive AF During Video Capture.

The EOS 7D Mark II features Canon's revolutionary Dual Pixel CMOS AF, a milestone in AF speed and accuracy that unlocks the potential of Live View shooting. This advanced technology has truly changed what is possible with a DSLR camera.

Dual Pixel CMOS AF involves a sophisticated rethinking of the CMOS sensor. Traditionally, image sensors have one photodiode per pixel for recording, but the CMOS sensor on the EOS 7D Mark II has two photodiodes per pixel, 40 million in total, enabling each pixel on the sensor to both perform phase-difference detection autofocus and capture light. With phase-difference detection AF, autofocus is achieved quickly and easily on the camera. This unique AF system enables autofocus on approximately 80% of the image plane, vertically and horizontally, and helps ensure virtually no loss in image quality.

The benefits of Dual Pixel CMOS AF are clearly evident in Live View and video shooting, where the EOS 7D Mark II achieves natural, precise focus very quickly, even when switching between subjects. And, combined with the predictive power of Movie Servo AF, subjects in motion are smoothly and consistently tracked – once focus is locked, the EOS 7D Mark II holds on! Plus, with the shallow depth-of-field afforded by EOS optics, video gains a brilliant, cinematic ambience lacking when shooting video with many other Digital SLRs.

HD Quality, EOS Performance.

While offering performance improvements across the board for still photography, the EOS 7D Mark II is also an incredibly capable HD movie camera. Taking advantage of its Dual Pixel CMOS AF capabilities, the EOS 7D Mark II has customizable Movie Servo AF options: not only can AF location be defined, AF speed and tracking intervals can be specified too, for fluid, smooth focus transitions. The EOS 7D Mark II delivers refined and detailed image quality with Full HD 60p recording at ISO values up to 16000, has an HDMI output and records to both SD and CF cards for versatility and security during important shoots.

Comprehensive Information, Right in the Viewfinder.

The EOS 7D Mark II's Intelligent Viewfinder II makes it easy to both shoot, change and confirm camera settings and shooting modes all without looking away from the viewfinder. Displaying approximately 100% of the composition, the viewfinder can show settings like shooting mode, exposure level, white balance, drive mode, AF operation, metering mode, recording format, even an electronic level and more. All of this information can be displayed by or superimposed easily over the image for review while shooting, and multiple views are customizable through the EOS 7D Mark II's simple user interface.

See next message for part 3

Photobug

Part 3
Specialty Controls, Built Right In.

An EOS first, the EOS 7D Mark II offers time-lapse fixed-point shooting and long exposures without the need for a remote control. The EOS 7D Mark II's interval timer takes from 1 to 99 shots at preselected intervals, ideal for shooting flowers as they bloom or clouds drifting through the sky. Its built-in bulb timer keeps the shutter open for a designated amount of time, perfect for night photography, or to capture the flow of traffic on a street corner.

Built to Perform.

The EOS 7D Mark II is constructed of the highest quality materials, and to exacting standards that ensure unfettered performance at all times. For example, the shutter can shoot at speeds up to 1/8000 sec. for up to 200,000 cycles, the chassis is built of lightweight and rigid magnesium, and the camera's seals are built to resist water and dust. This combination makes the EOS 7D Mark II ready for almost anything.

Speed and Accuracy with Intelligent Subject Recognition and Analysis.

The EOS 7D Mark II has an amazing iSA Intelligent Subject Analysis system that employs an independent RGB light sensor with approximately 150,000-pixel resolution. This sensor enables Canon's intelligent Tracking and Recognition system (iTR AF) that detects and tracks subjects, automatically switching the AF point to optimize tracking. With new tracking algorithms tailored to recognize faces and colors, this system serves as a brilliant foundation to the EOS 7D Mark II's AF system.

Extraordinary GPS, Built-in..

Ideal for travel or nature photography, the EOS 7D Mark II's built-in GPS* can record longitude, latitude and altitude data as EXIF data, can track movement at set intervals with its logging function, and can even set the camera's internal clock to local time! When using the logger function on a computer, you will see the exact route you travelled, and the map will show you where and when you took each image.

* In certain countries and regions, the use of GPS may be restricted. Therefore be sure to use GPS in accordance with the laws and regulations of your country or region. Be particularly careful when traveling outside your home country. As a signal is received from GPS satellites, take sufficient measures when using in locations where the use of electronics is regulated.

Sharp and Clear Viewing.

The EOS 7D Mark II comes with a 3.0-inch Clear View II LCD monitor for shooting videos and stills. Displaying fine detail (at approximately 1.04 million dots), this screen is perfect for composing and reviewing images. Thanks to a solid construction between the monitor's resin-coated cover and the liquid crystal display, reflections are minimized, and the display can be viewed with reduced glare. The LCD's surface is treated with a smudge-resistant coating to minimize fingerprints and maintain a bright, clear image display.

Anti-flicker shooting

The EOS 7D Mark II features a new flicker detection system that not only alerts the user in the viewfinder, but with the camera's Anti-Flicker Shooting function can compensate for flickering light sources, taking shots only at peak light volume. This feature is useful for minimizing disparities in color and exposure, especially during continuous shooting in sub-optimal lighting situations.

In-camera lens aberration corrections

To help photographers with achieving high quality images, the EOS 7D Mark II corrects image distortions like peripheral illumination, chromatic aberration and distortion, in-camera, as the image is recorded. When shooting in Live View mode, the results of distortion can even be monitored in real time through the EOS 7D Mark II's Image Simulation Function.

USB 3.0

The EOS 7D Mark II features a USB 3.0 digital terminal for fast transfer to PCs and printers, plus offers connectivity to Canon's WFT-E7 (Version 2) for wireless transfer and Wi-Fi® compatibility.

NOTE: For connecting an interface cable to the USB 3.0 terminal, a cable protector is included with the EOS 7D Mark II, and must be used at all times to protect the camera's circuit board.
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ano

I am only one who felt angry again NIKON during the reading of 7D II specs ?
No artificial limitations (AF, shutter speed, fps, buffer, build quality etc ...) and a very competitive price for the specs ...

rbrylawski

I am only one who felt angry again NIKON during the reading of 7D II specs ?
No artificial limitations (AF, shutter speed, fps, buffer, build quality etc ...) and a very competitive price for the specs ...

No you're not the only one. I don't even need or want a 9300 or whatever Nikon might call a 7D Mk II competitor, but after all these pages and knowing Nikon has to be reading these forums, it seems to me the lack of a camera people clearly want is an insult to those who have asked and waited and pleaded and hoped. An insult.

However, the solution for those who have waited and waited is clear. Show Nikon how you feel with your wallet and if the 7D MK II will give you the photographic experience you've been waiting for, go buy it. Sell your Nikon gear and move on.

It's clear Nikon hasn't really cared about their customers for some time. The D600 disaster is a clear example of how little they care. And it really took the threat of a class action lawsuit to get Nikon to do the right thing. They make what they want to make, without regard to what people want. So it's time you all buy what you want without regard to Nikon profits.

donaldejose

No, don't buy a Cannon 7DMarkII. There must be some reason it took Cannon so long to produce their D400 equivalent. Nikon must have the same reason and in both the case of Cannon and Nikon that reason is NOT that they don't care about customer's desires. Just wait a few more months and Nikon's version may well be announced.

Sports

No artificial limitations

It's hard to say which limitations are plain cost cuts, and which ones are deliberately bad choices (D7100 buffer size, for instance).
These days Nikon builds many of those "great value" cameras. D750 and D7100 are indeed great value, but many NR readers would gladly pay $500 or even $1000 more if Nikon went "all in".
You really get the feeling that Canon went all in with the 7D2.