Will there Be a Professional DX Body From Nikon?

Photobug

@royalpig180 - welcome to NRF...interesting screen name that you picked.
I would really like to see them update the 50mm and 35mm lens to catchup with Sigma too.

I really hope that this isn't just a tease, but I don't have high hopes for "exciting" DX lenses. I suppose anything that's not another 18-xxx is a good start though.

Amen on another 1/-xxx lens.

+1 @spraynpray - Come on Nikon, give the customers what they want. Business 101. There have been some times that a VRII would have been great on the 17-55 F2.8 lens. I expect we will see lots of D750 in use by wedding photographers. The local camera deal now has a "wait list" for this camera. It's not a backorder...yet.

haroldp

Since Sony has sensor based VR on their sensors (which Nikon disables), inclusion by Nikon of sensor based VR on their next bodies ould neatly bring all of the non-VR lenses into the game,

.... H

spraynpray

Since Sony has sensor based VR on their sensors (which Nikon disables), inclusion by Nikon of sensor based VR on their next bodies ould neatly bring all of the non-VR lenses into the game,

.... H

That would be interesting.

heartyfisher

Since Sony has sensor based VR on their sensors (which Nikon disables), inclusion by Nikon of sensor based VR on their next bodies ould neatly bring all of the non-VR lenses into the game,

.... H

?? sensor based VR is not in the sensor !!! its in the mounting for the sensor that Nikon does not have.. the whole sensor is moved.

haroldp

@heartyfisher

Yes, I know.

My point is that since Nikon uses the same basic sensors, hence the same mounting parameters, they could deploy the Sony IS system without a huge R & D effort, and at reasonable cost.

While sensor based VR is not as good as lens based for long lenses, incorporating it would be a coup for Nikon, and consistent with their philosophy of best use of legacy assets.

It could be set to be disabled if a lens based VR system is mounted.

This would make all of our lenses with the right electrical connections (probably AFS, maybe 'D' as well) VR capable.

It is one of the feature wishes that would get me to trade up as I have many older lenses.

... H

WestEndBoy

If it is so easy and a coup, I wonder why Nikon has not done it? Something is not lining up.

Perhaps Nikon has not see much value in VR at shorter focal lenghts and lens mounted VR is superior at longer focal lengths?

spraynpray

If it is so easy and a coup, I wonder why Nikon has not done it? Something is not lining up.

Perhaps Nikon has not see much value in VR at shorter focal lenghts and lens mounted VR is superior at longer focal lengths?

I don't agree with your last point. As a wedding photographer I get plenty of opportunities to use VRIII on a wide to normal zoom.

@heartyfisher

Yes, I know.

My point is that since Nikon uses the same basic sensors, hence the same mounting parameters, they could deploy the Sony IS system without a huge R & D effort, and at reasonable cost.

While sensor based VR is not as good as lens based for long lenses, incorporating it would be a coup for Nikon, and consistent with their philosophy of best use of legacy assets.

It could be set to be disabled if a lens based VR system is mounted.

This would make all of our lenses with the right electrical connections (probably AFS, maybe 'D' as well) VR capable.

It is one of the feature wishes that would get me to trade up as I have many older lenses.

... H

Best use of legacy assets? You mean they want to lose out on selling a nice new VR lens? @-)

heartyfisher

actually I like sensor movement VR.. I wish nikon had it.. I like the way Pentax did it. where they integrated with more smarts .. besides VR they implemented
1) variable AA
2) Using GPS and orientation sensors + Focal length info, it allows for built in Astro photography ie longer shutter speeds.
( PS : another win for DX vs FX due to sensor weight. another example of Nikon holding back DX development and others have not)

Sports

If the main blog is actually on to something real regarding a D300 successor, then this thread may have to be put to sleep.
For future reference
.... Unless .....
If it happens, then let's see if it's the REAL successor :-)

sevencrossing

If the main blog is actually on to something real regarding a D300 successor,

looks like the successor to the D7100

Ironheart

No, not really, the specs are much greater than a D7200. 10fps with a grip?

scoobysmak

The rumored specs look good to me making assumptions....size of a D810, to me would give me the controls I am looking for. The F10 autofocus would be a great for low light action stuff, didn't see that coming but would welcome it totally. I would really like to know if the buffer would be any better than the D7100, I would guess yes but didn't see the rumored specs on that.

I believe this is what many were/are looking for to step up from the D300s, it just might be a bit late for Nikon to cash in since half the people looking to upgrade gave up already and purchased something else. The only exception might be if its really that good people sell what ever they can to purchase the new body but its to a limited crowd.

I will say this rumor is almost too good to be true, so the 30% needs to be more like 95% before I would get excited about it.

donaldejose

I do hope the rumors on the main blog are correct.

1skully

@ Scoobysmak, I also cant wait to see that number move higher. I did move to full frame but would definitely purchase a camera with specs like those of something in a D810 size body and control layout. Hope more info comes sooner than later.

scoobysmak

@ Scoobysmak, I also cant wait to see that number move higher. I did move to full frame but would definitely purchase a camera with specs like those of something in a D810 size body and control layout. Hope more info comes sooner than later.

Even on the old forum the D300 replacement was the hot topic, that was roughly two years ago. There has been a few fake D400's photo shopped, then the D9300 thread came out. Maybe this rumor is more positive than others, maybe Nikon is learning from the errors its made in some of the past new bodies that hit the market like the D600 oil spots, D800 left focus problem, D810 long exposure problem. Honestly the only one that really bothers me would be the D600 oil spots. The other two problems seemed to be fixed with firmware updates. The oil spots required new hardware. With all the anticipation of a D300 replacement if they screw the pooch in the slightest way it will really hurt Nikon's quality reputation as if it would need any more damaging publicity.

Overall I expect all companies to encounter more "new release issues" as more advanced technology appears. To keep this thread on track though I still hope for a pro DX camera, just done with the roller coaster ride to get there.

Photobug

These are crazy specs from the main blog.

New 24.7MP sensor from Sony
EXPEED 4b processor
Nikon Advanced Multi-CAM 3600DX autofocus sensor module with TTL phase detection, fine-tuning, 72 focus points (including 39 cross-type sensors; f/10 supported by 39 sensors)
ISO: 100-12,600 (expandable to 50-51,200)
Shutter speed 30-1/8000
1.3x crop mode
8 fps; 10 fps with external grip
Video: full HD (1080p) - 120FPS, no 4K
Similar in shape to the Nikon D810
Large viewfinder with 100% coverage
What is a "b" after 4b? Is this a new numbering system or do some of our current models have this suffix?
And there goes that "bigger body" that I hammered on in previous D400 and D9300 forums.

These are really nice specs but I totally agree with @scoobysmak - " it just might be a bit late for Nikon to cash in since half the people looking to upgrade gave up already and purchased something else. The only exception might be if its really that good people sell what ever they can to purchase the new body but its to a limited crowd."

I believe a lot of people have moved on to D7100/D600/D610/D800/D810. IMHO they waited too long.

tc88

People know this rumor can be submitted by any random person, right?

The big Canon rumor circulating the web and receiving wide coverage last month was made by a "psychic", that is to put it nicely.

spraynpray

It's early days yet, but I do hope the rumours turn out to be true - partly because I think Nikon have to continue to compete - and hopefully beat - Canon at every level, and partly because I want to see a published picture of @sevencrossing eating his hat! :P

sevencrossing

May be 90 % of the spec is correct they just got the sensor size wrong
it is in fact the new D820
One of the big advantages of dx, and the reason I might buy one, is they smaller and lighter
Why would Nikon remove this advantage by making it the size of a D810

spraynpray

May be 90 % of the spec is correct they just got the sensor size wrong
it is in fact the new D820
One of the big advantages of dx, and the reason I might buy one, is they smaller and lighter
Why would Nikon remove this advantage by making it the size of a D810

Pro bodies are usually larger than consumer or prosumer?

Plus don't forget this rumour is pretty low down the credibility scale at the moment...

snakebunk

I guess this is a fake rumour but I like the idea of a D810 body for the pro DX camera. It would be great if it uses the same battery, grip and cards (cf + sd) as the D810.
Personally I don't mind the size very much as it won't be pocket size anyway, but the possibility to use shorter tele lenses due to the high pixel density gives it an advantage.

ExpensiveHobby

In the end, I just want a new top tier DX body that costs less than $2500 after taxes and is compatible with my old lenses. I need to replace my D70s (backup to my D7000). The end result from Nikon will be a new camera or cameras that exceed the current capabilities of the D7100 and D300s.

retread

•New 24.7MP sensor from Sony
•EXPEED 4b processor....Could this be an enhanced processor?
•Nikon Advanced Multi-CAM 3600DX autofocus sensor module with TTL phase detection, fine-tuning, 72 focus points (including 39 cross-type sensors; f/10 supported by 39 sensors)
•ISO: 100-12,600 (expandable to 50-51,200)
•Shutter speed 30-1/8000
•1.3x crop mode
•8 fps; 10 fps with external grip
•Video: full HD (1080p) - 120FPS, no 4K
•Similar in shape to the Nikon D810.......It says shape not size
•Large viewfinder with 100% coverage


If this has the quiet shutter for the D810 and shares batteries with it my dreams may have come true.

Now lets see if it is true.

sevencrossing

Plus don't forget this rumour is pretty low down the credibility scale at the moment...

Does that mean my hat is safe ?

Sports

72 focus points??
Assuming there's a point at the center, how is it possible to end up with an even number of focus points?
Maybe there should've been 73 like on Nikon 1, but one was blinded by oil spots or something, LOL.
[I posted this on the main blog as well.]