D7200 Pre release and early adopters discusion

heartyfisher

Agree with @PitchBlack. My D610 is really nice IQ wise. Its up there with the best only the D750 probably bests it in every way. Otherwise, it is better that the D800(maybe 810) in High ISO. The colours from the sensor are exquisite. I would say better than any DX (except for the fujis) its different from the D800 and F4 but in no way worse, I really like it. Functionality wise its all you need to take good photos. The D610 is as good as the D7100. Better in some ways worse in others. The D7200 capability is still unknown though potentially it could be better than the D610 in most conditions though I doubt the D610's sensor will be bested, especially at higher ISO.
I will be seriously looking at the D7200 to replace my D7000. I love to shoot with 2 cameras, one in FX the other in DX. It adds so much more versatility to my lenses. Its the reason I decided to forgo upgrading to D750.

manhattanboy

Remember D610 came into being as bandage to patch over the gash caused by D600's infamous shutter mechanism issues. Even though it is now only $300 more than D7200 I feel skittish about getting D610.

PitchBlack at one time said just suck it up and buy the best as it is cheaper in the long run. Its basically true to some extent, so I would say reach for the 810 and be done with it.

I will be seriously looking at the D7200 to replace my D7000. I love to shoot with 2 cameras, one in FX the other in DX. It adds so much more versatility to my lenses. Its the reason I decided to forgo upgrading to D750.

There is no way that the 7200's sensor is better than the 610's. Regardless of what the ladies will have you believe, size does make a huge difference

sevencrossing

so I would say reach for the 810 and be done with it.

+1 you can probably forget updating fro 3 -5 years

retread

I will keep an eye on the D7200. Not quite what I am looking for but getting close. Never thought I would really be interested in WIFI. If I can control the camera on a tripod with my cell phone I need to rethink that. GPS would be nice when I want to find the same place in the woods again. The bigger buffer looks like it is adequate for my needs but would like a little higher FPS. If the higher ISO it is good that will be great.

My budget this year is small and going for some glass so will come back and visit this in the 2016-2017 time frame and reevaluate what is available then.

In the mean time I AM - WATCHING.

NSXTypeR

I wouldn't put my life on it, but considering the fact that there were no huge body changes from the D7100 to the D7200 and no sensor change, I'm fairly certain that there won't be huge mechanical faults with the D7200 when it launches.

nukuEX2

I wouldn't put my life on it, but considering the fact that there were no huge body changes from the D7100 to the D7200 and no sensor change, I'm fairly certain that there won't be huge mechanical faults with the D7200 when it launches.

Here is the real reason for my dilemma, $$$ Just like what Photobug said I'd be looking at D750 as well and in fact I've been watching D750 since it was announced at Photokina in September. As much as I'd love to get D750 and couple of good glasses I have a limited budget of little over $2800 and maybe $300 more if I dig into reserve fund. So I decide which is better, Get the D750 and the single prime 50mm f1.8 or 85mm f1.8? Or get the decent DX Body (D7200) and two or perhaps even three glasses.

And yes I'd agree with NSXType8 That aside from a bigger buffer, faster cpu and the built in online connectivity which I'd use extensively. D7200 is a tweaked and tinker'd D7100 and I didn't see any real complaints of mechanical issues from D7XXX line so far...

is it just me or Nikon doesn't have big issues with DX than FX?

KnockKnock

@nukuEX2

I think they haven't pushed the boundaries with DX lately as much as they have for FX. Not a pro, but I've seen enough on this site to know that they mostly recommend glass over body. Unless you need that sensor size (going for extreme DoF isolation or high-ISO work) you're probably better off going DX and investing in lenses (lighting, tripod etc).

Capt_Spaulding

@nsx, correct me if I'm mistaken, but I was under the impression the sensor in the D7200 is different than the 7100. Not to say it's altogether new, but different.

spraynpray

Correct, it is new/different.

@retread: Check out EXACTLY what control you actually get via wi-fi to avoid disappointment. :-?

sevencrossing

....So I decide which is better Get the D750 .......Or get the decent DX Body....

This is the age old DX vs FX debate; which has been discussed just a few times before, on nrf

Advantage of DX it is cheaper
Advantage of FX slight better image quality

Yes there are other pros and cons, all of them have been argued over, in hundreds of posts over the past 5 years on nrf

At the end of day, it is price vs image quality

Only you know what you need and what you prepared to pay for

I shoot FX but then I make and sell, very large prints

One word of warning if you do go down the DX route and decide to "upgrade" to FX at a later date it will more expensive than buying a full frame camera in the first place

heartyfisher

I wouldn't say its only price vs IQ .. the D7200 has much more functionality/features vs the D610.
I can think of a dozen .. or so(well maybe half a dozen ;-) ). but they are both cameras and will take great pictures and video.

spraynpray

... not to mention the advantages of of DX 'reach' for wildlife/sport and DoF when shooting macro...

sevencrossing

I wouldn't say its only price vs IQ .. the D7200 has much more functionality/features vs the D610.
I can think of a dozen .. or so(well maybe half a dozen ;-) ). but they are both cameras and will take great pictures and video.

I thought it was D7200 vs D750 both have the latest Expeed 4. The D610 has to compared with the D7100
both have expeed 3
Comparing the latest sensor / processor to the previous generation, adds another dimension to the dilemma

but you right both cameras and will take great pictures and video. as will virtually every current digital camera

heartyfisher

Its just that the D7200 is close in price to the D610, and if someone is on a D7200 budget, those are the 2 you might be considering.

sevencrossing

Its just that the D7200 is close in price to the D610, and if someone is on a D7200 budget, those are the 2 you might be considering.

may be new thread is needed?
as even, dependant on subject matter
wide angle/ landscapes D610 and 20m f1.8
bif sports D7200, 300mm f 4, plus a TC

But I must confess I have not used any of the above

spraynpray

Its just that the D7200 is close in price to the D610, and if someone is on a D7200 budget, those are the 2 you might be considering.

may be new thread is needed?
as even, dependant on subject matter
wide angle/ landscapes D610 and 20m f1.8
bif sports D7200, 300mm f 4, plus a TC

But I must confess I have not used any of the above

Argh! it would be a DX/FX AND D400 thread all rolled into one! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo!

heartyfisher

LOL !!!

heartyfisher

Its just that the D7200 is close in price to the D610, and if someone is on a D7200 budget, those are the 2 you might be considering.

may be new thread is needed?
as even, dependant on subject matter
wide angle/ landscapes D610 and 20m f1.8
bif sports D7200, 300mm f 4, plus a TC

But I must confess I have not used any of the above

That's just about exactly my plan. My D610 + 24-70F2.8 and with D7200 + my 70-200 F4 + my TC. That's what I worked out as my optimal kit. Only the D7200 to go to replace my D7000.. Its probably time to start selling some stuff :-) (in my sig) ( is ebay good? )

spraynpray

eBay is very good. Describe it fully and fairly, set it to finish on a weekend evening and wait.

heartyfisher

eBay is very good. Describe it fully and fairly, set it to finish on a weekend evening and wait.

Thanks ..

Photobug

... not to mention the advantages of of DX 'reach' for wildlife/sport and DoF when shooting macro...

Boy did I learn about DoF difference between DX and FX after shooting almost 1,000 images with FX +105mm this winter. LoL

Photobug

Argh! it would be a DX/FX AND D400 thread all rolled into one! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo!

Amen. I can't count the number of forums that got highjacked let alone the D400 & D9300 forums.

NSXTypeR

I wouldn't put my life on it, but considering the fact that there were no huge body changes from the D7100 to the D7200 and no sensor change, I'm fairly certain that there won't be huge mechanical faults with the D7200 when it launches.

Here is the real reason for my dilemma, $$$ Just like what Photobug said I'd be looking at D750 as well and in fact I've been watching D750 since it was announced at Photokina in September. As much as I'd love to get D750 and couple of good glasses I have a limited budget of little over $2800 and maybe $300 more if I dig into reserve fund. So I decide which is better, Get the D750 and the single prime 50mm f1.8 or 85mm f1.8? Or get the decent DX Body (D7200) and two or perhaps even three glasses.

And yes I'd agree with NSXType8 That aside from a bigger buffer, faster cpu and the built in online connectivity which I'd use extensively. D7200 is a tweaked and tinker'd D7100 and I didn't see any real complaints of mechanical issues from D7XXX line so far...

is it just me or Nikon doesn't have big issues with DX than FX?

Like others have said, Nikon's changed far more with FX than DX. I don't work in the industry, so I'm just speaking generally. But generally speaking, when you move from one product to another, the more you need to change. The D750 has a new grip, and a shallower body. You need to train people to build a new camera, get new equipment and stuff like that.

The D7200 hasn't had drastic changes besides the buffer, so there shouldn't be major manufacturing problems.

@nsx, correct me if I'm mistaken, but I was under the impression the sensor in the D7200 is different than the 7100. Not to say it's altogether new, but different.

You're probably right, I wasn't really paying much attention to the nitty gritty details.

sevencrossing

I wouldn't say its only price vs IQ .. the D7200 has much more functionality/features vs the D610.
I can think of a dozen .. or so(well maybe half a dozen ;-) ). but they are both cameras and will take great pictures and video.

I thought it was D7200 vs D750 both have the latest Expeed 4. The D610 has to compared with the D7100
both have expeed 3
Comparing the latest sensor / processor to the previous generation, adds another dimension to the dilemma

but you are right both cameras and will take great pictures and video. as will virtually every current digital camera

Photobug

So has anyone pre ordered the D7200?