D850

Pistnbroke

NR seem to have missed this ...https://mynikonlife.com.au/news/gear/...
(8k video shot with the D850) click the top block "I am new gear"

tc88

Today's announcement is really a no announcement. It provided zilch of information and is a disappointment. Sort of expected it though. My guess of the earliest D850 delivery is probably December or later. I think it's out of Nikon's control and Sony controls Nikon's destiny now with the sensor supply.

spraynpray

Pistnbroke said:

NR seem to have missed this ...https://mynikonlife.com.au/news/gear/...
(8k video shot with the D850) click the top block "I am new gear"

It's on the blog.

Pistnbroke

you mean its on the blog now but at 7am it was not.
Like TC88 I feel totally pi$$ed off with them ..glad I did not plan on knowing whats happening today to plan future purchases ..bit like Brexit total mess.

DenverShooter

shubhabrata29 said:

Question: Should anyone jump on D850 as soon as it is announced or wait for the FF mirrorless as forecasted ? Or will they arrive at same time ?

You can always tell the first adopters in this business. They are the ones running around with their hair on fire..

Do you really want to be the Lab Rat on that much new technology?

donaldejose

While we may be disappointed that the D850 stats are not out and the camera itself has no availability date, the reason must be that Nikon has not yet finalized the capabilities of the camera. We can ask, Why not? If there were no significant improvements or new technologies incorporated it would have been easy to meet the July 25th date. Thus, likely the D850 will incorporate some significant improvements and new technologies we will want to have. One such new feature is 8k timelapse although few people will use that one.

DenverShooter

And 8K is only 8192 × 4320 resolution with a 1.89:1 (17:9) aspect ratio which equals 35.4 Megapixels.

Denver Shooter

tc88

I could very well be wrong, but I'm going to go out on a limb and go against what the admin's rumor that it's going to use sensor in the 40MP range. Here is what I posted on 6/10 on this thread and I think it's still a valid assessment. I think Nikon should have pretty much the camera ready now except the sensor part.

My guess is that Nikon has signed up with Sony to use their next generation 60MP+ sensor that the A9R will use. Since D8** line in general has a lifespan of 4+ years, start using a 46MP sensor at this point is really late and means it will have to iterate very quickly again which Nikon doesn't have the resource for anymore.

However, for Sony, since it has already signed Nikon to a deal, it's probably not in a hurry to deliver it. It either (1) has a yield issue, (2) consider this a low priority item, (3) or just plainly wants to drag its feet to hold Nikon at its bay while attacking other camera markets such as what A9 is targeting.

So when the Sony A9R or something like that comes out is when D850 will come out. It probably will be another 3-4 months.

Pistnbroke

8k or even 4k is great but how many can edit it and how many customers can play it ? How much space on a memory stick ? No I will stick to giving them 1080p

rmp

Limiting a large sensor (say 60 mp) to a smaller size for 8K video does not sound like a big issue to me (Of course you must remember that I know nothing about anything.)

donaldejose

Ken Rockwells take on the announcement.

"So while some people try to get us excited about a D850, the fact is that Nikon has said nothing other than that there may be a camera called the D850 in the future.

If you have pictures to make today, get the D810. No one knows when or if a D850 may be ever available.

Nikon before has announced cameras that never were never made, like the DL series. The D850 might happen, or might just be fluff. Nikon cancelled the DL series this February after a big announcement where they actually had photos and specifications. We have far less than that for the D850. With only 8K video that we can do today, I'll betcha the D850 still only has 36MP.

I predict the D850 won't actually get announced with specifications until the end of 2017, and won't actually ship until April, 2018.

Don't wait for the D850. Get the D810. If Nikon's other recent releases like the D3400, D5600 and D7500 are any hint, new versions of Nikon cameras will be the same as the old model, with Bluetooth added, and other features like lens compatibility or flash power, taken away.

Even better, get a Nikon D810 today for $1,997, refurbished, and you're good to go nine months before you could ever get a D850."

Pistnbroke

I dont usually agree with Ken Rock but Nikon are making a pigs ear of this birthday

donaldejose

A little down to earth perspective for us about "needing" the latest and greatest DSLR to do good work. www.dpreview.com/articles/4139659692/this-nat-geo-cover-was-shot-with-a-10-year-old-dslr-and-an-iphone-flashlight

starralazn

donaldejose said:

Ken Rockwells take on the announcement.

"So while some people try to get us excited about a D850, the fact is that Nikon has said nothing other than that there may be a camera called the D850 in the future.

If you have pictures to make today, get the D810. No one knows when or if a D850 may be ever available.

Nikon before has announced cameras that never were never made, like the DL series. The D850 might happen, or might just be fluff. Nikon cancelled the DL series this February after a big announcement where they actually had photos and specifications. We have far less than that for the D850. With only 8K video that we can do today, I'll betcha the D850 still only has 36MP.

I predict the D850 won't actually get announced with specifications until the end of 2017, and won't actually ship until April, 2018.

Don't wait for the D850. Get the D810. If Nikon's other recent releases like the D3400, D5600 and D7500 are any hint, new versions of Nikon cameras will be the same as the old model, with Bluetooth added, and other features like lens compatibility or flash power, taken away.

Even better, get a Nikon D810 today for $1,997, refurbished, and you're good to go nine months before you could ever get a D850."

occasionally he says something that makes sense.
i got the d810 about a year ago and shot a little more than 10000 frames(camera created another folder in the memory card after hitting 9999, lol). i think it definitely helped me get shots that i would not have gotten otherwise...

PB_PM

You guys complain when Nikon doesn't announce, and when they do you complain too. Priceless.

Come on, don't get your shorts in a knot, your current camera still works doesn't it? Are customers dropping you because you only have a D810 with 36MP? Yeah didn't think so.

BVS

DenverShooter said:

You can always tell the first adopters in this business. They are the ones running around with their hair on fire..

Do you really want to be the Lab Rat on that much new technology?

To be fair though, the last five DSLRs released by Nikon (D5, D500, D3400, D5600, D7500) have not had any QA issues that I can recall..

heartyfisher

I dunno... the D850 .... no popup flash ..... what a pain. here I was hoping to have the popup on the D850 to compensate for it missing on the D500.... sigh.

PB_PM

Nikon's team is smart, it means they sell more external flashes, while reducing production costs. At the same time, they'll also jack up the price $300-500 over the release prices of the D810. Win, win, win for Nikon. Lose, lose, lose for the customer. That's how business works, when the shareholders are the only people that matter to a company.

DenverShooter

PB_PM said:

Nikon's team is smart, it means they sell more external flashes, while reducing production costs. At the same time, they'll also jack up the price $300-500 over the release prices of the D810. Win, win, win for Nikon. Lose, lose, lose for the customer. That's how business works, when the shareholders are the only people that matter to a company.

Really?

So if they never sell another camera because they have alienated their customer base and they go out of business as a result that benefits the shareholders how?

Denver Shooter

spraynpray

PB_PM said:

You guys complain when Nikon doesn't announce, and when they do you complain too. Priceless.

Come on, don't get your shorts in a knot, your current camera still works doesn't it? Are customers dropping you because you only have a D810 with 36MP? Yeah didn't think so.

LMAO! So true.

framer

It's really time to not buy a new D810, @ this time it's better to wait or you'll regret it. I doubt I'll get the D850; however, I'll look @ it.

framer

paulr

Maybe with the lack of a inbuilt flash the new D850 will be able to control radio flash used in the new Sb 5000 CLS system,without having to buy the silly add -on. Perhaps Nikon are catching up with Canon in that department.

tc88

"smart" is one word I won't use to describe Nikon's management. Otherwise how do people explain Nikon's continuously tanking market share?

snakebunk

I think the D850 will be very good, and I think it is good that Nikon takes the time they need to finalize it. I also wouldn't mind buying the D810 if I needed a camera; I like to buy cameras late, and I bought my D810 half a year ago. But reading that the D5 anniversary camera is delayed, that makes me wonder what they are doing. Not that it matters to almost anyone, but it is just strange to not release it in time.

donaldejose

The Angry Photographer has posted a video speculating that the different shape of the pentaprism housing indicates a hybrid OVF/EVF and the new button on the right side of the housing is how you turn the EVF on and off. Hope he is correct. That would be nice. Depending upon its implementation, that feature could take market share away from Canon as I would expect it to be on all higher end Nikon from now on. It could also give us silent shooting with the mirror locked up.