D850

retread

The D5 has a baby brother the D500. Do you suppose Nikon would do a double announcement again? A D850 and a baby brother D8500 . Maybe that takes a little longer. LOL

PB_PM

tc88 said:

"smart" is one word I won't use to describe Nikon's management. Otherwise how do people explain Nikon's continuously tanking market share?

Management is doing fine by shareholders, and the investors don't care about market share. One word, profit. Profits have been up, until recently, and that's all that matters to them. Short sighted? Yeah, but they don't care as long as their investments pay off. When they don't, they move on, what happens to the company or customers means little or nothing to them. Thing is, companies cannot function without these shareholders/investors, so they bend over backwards to please them, customers mean nothing anymore.

Sadly management at most large corporations function that way today, whether you realize, or believe, it or not.

BVS

donaldejose said:

The Angry Photographer has posted a video speculating that the different shape of the pentaprism housing indicates a hybrid OVF/EVF and the new button on the right side of the housing is how you turn the EVF on and off. Hope he is correct. That would be nice. Depending upon its implementation, that feature could take market share away from Canon as I would expect it to be on all higher end Nikon from now on. It could also give us silent shooting with the mirror locked up.

Assuming for a minute that it actually is a EVF button, does the placement of it seem convenient to you? Personally, I feel like toggling between the OVF and EVF is something I might want to do frequently, and trying to press a button high up on the viewfinder seems like it'd either be an awkward stretch of the thumb, or you'd have to take your hand off the grip. Neither seems ideal to me. I'd rather it was a standard button on the back that's easy to reach with a thumb, or assigned to one of the Fn buttons.

PB_PM

What new button? I see the dial for adjusting the viewfinder focus (which every Nikon has camera), but no button.

BVS

PB_PM said:

What new button? I see the dial for adjusting the viewfinder focus (which every Nikon has camera), but no button.

It's kind of hard to see, but there's some other switch or button or flap or something just above the diopter dial in the photos. AP and some others have been speculating (with no other proof mind you) that it's a switch of some kind to toggle between OVF and EVF.

shubhabrata29

BVS said:

PB_PM said:

What new button? I see the dial for adjusting the viewfinder focus (which every Nikon has camera), but no button.

It's kind of hard to see, but there's some other switch or button or flap or something just above the diopter dial in the photos. AP and some others have been speculating (with no other proof mind you) that it's a switch of some kind to toggle between OVF and EVF.

It can be a flip switch to lock down the OVF as present in D500.

PB_PM

The flip lock for blocking the viewfinder is clearly present to the left of the viewfinder (as it is on all pro Nikon bodies sine the F4). I cannot see any button over the diopter. Looks like a lump of plastic, to go with the new design style. The picture from the front is much clearer, so unless the button is recessed, there isn't one.

BabaGanoush

donaldejose said:

While we may be disappointed that the D850 stats are not out and the camera itself has no availability date, the reason must be that Nikon has not yet finalized the capabilities of the camera. We can ask, Why not? If there were no significant improvements or new technologies incorporated it would have been easy to meet the July 25th date. Thus, likely the D850 will incorporate some significant improvements and new technologies we will want to have.

The D810 was released in 2014, three years and one month ago. Assuming the D850
is a real product and not merely a fake mock-up, Nikon has had years to get ready for its 100th Anniversary...on a date it knew was on the horizon. It should have had the D850 ready for release to make a big splash. No camera is released without years of development, and we can be certain that whatever new technology is built into the D850 it has been under development for several years. Nikon should be embarrassed by missing the July 25 date. Not only did it punt on the D850, it didn't even manage to get its sh*t together to release its fancy shmancy expensive 100th Anniversary products on time. None of them, including the double-priced D5, will be available before next month. The only thing Nikon offered on its momentous birthday was a dumb music video. Shame on Nikon.

Pistnbroke

If angry photog is right there are two eye sensor holes near the eyepiece to auto switch as you approach ....mind you he did say it would be the 820 as the digits of 850 add to 13 and he got that wrong . I suspect the purpose of the video is that it was shot with an 850 at 4k....
I see we still got the horrible pro controlls ..ARGHHH
Interesting that Tom Hogan has been silent for weeks.....

heartyfisher

I went to the gypsy down by the river and she said the Angry photographer is seeing things .. she has been sending him visions ...

paulr

Heartyfisher, is that the same gypsy that Ken Rockwell uses?

Pistnbroke

For Nikons sake I sure hope the AP is right..they did patent this idea in 2013
Well I put the press release photos into photoshop and you can see the two hoes he is on about on the rear top of the prism and the extra switch above the diopter adjuster ..the black out lever is still present...who knows...

mark_4

PB_PM said:

The flip lock for blocking the viewfinder is clearly present to the left of the viewfinder (as it is on all pro Nikon bodies sine the F4). I cannot see any button over the diopter. Looks like a lump of plastic, to go with the new design style. The picture from the front is much clearer, so unless the button is recessed, there isn't one.

From the front view you can see the corner of the "lump" - I think that it's too close to the diopter adjustment to be anything other than part of the body. Doesn't look very neat, but maybe there is a limitation relating to internals of the diopter adjustment.

egosbar

heartyfisher said:

I dunno... the D850 .... no popup flash ..... what a pain. here I was hoping to have the popup on the D850 to compensate for it missing on the D500.... sigh.

defintely need a flash on it and like you said good combo with the flashless 500

Pistnbroke

forget the rear view its the front view on the two camera pic you want in photoshop

donaldejose

I do hope the AP is correct about a OVF/EVF and all the options that would make possible. If he is I highly expect the switch can be programmed to one of the other function buttons at the users choice.

BVS

PB_PM said:

The flip lock for blocking the viewfinder is clearly present to the left of the viewfinder (as it is on all pro Nikon bodies sine the F4). I cannot see any button over the diopter. Looks like a lump of plastic, to go with the new design style. The picture from the front is much clearer, so unless the button is recessed, there isn't one.

It's this photo that has everyone going crazy. If you look closely at the camera on the right you can see the diopter wheel with the white markings on it, and just above that is some sort of protruding switch/button/port cover/something. This is what AP are others are speculating/hoping is an OVF/EVF switch.

Also, others are speculating/hoping that the two round holes to the top left and right of the eyepiece on the camera on the left are eye proximity sensors or something, although they're probably just screw holes.

mark_4

From the front view you can see that the diopter adjuster isn't inclined as it is on the D500 or D5, so I think the "switch" is just a bit more of a prominent shoulder in the casing on that side of the viewfinder because of that difference in position.

CEBlueclouds

mark_4 said:

From the front view you can see that the diopter adjuster isn't inclined as it is on the D500 or D5, so I think the "switch" is just a bit more of a prominent shoulder in the casing on that side of the viewfinder because of that difference in position.

If you lift up the shadows in the picture a bit, you get a better view of the "protruding shape" by the diopter adjuster....it looks switchlike... SEE area circled in red below...

PB_PM

Still don't see a button. There are some bumps where the plastic housing for the top plate and side meet, but that's about it.

The two round holes are the same size as the ones on the front. Could simply be rear facing microphones. Guess we'll know when Nikon tells us what's really going on.

CEBlueclouds

PB_PM said:

Still don't see a button. There are some bumps where the plastic housing for the top plate and side meet, but that's about it.

The two round holes are the same size as the ones on the front. Could simply be rear facing microphones. Guess we'll know when Nikon tells us what's really going on.

PB_PM, I have drawn a red circle around the area i am referring to. I don't know what it is; just observing that it looks like some kind of switch or lever...

spraynpray

This was posted under a new thread by '@BenjaminKanarek' and so I have moved it to the main thread:

As most of you know I am a Nikon Pro using three Nikon D800/800e bodies for the likes of ELLE, Harper's BAZAR, VOGUE etc. And what I really want to see in the new Nikon is a hybrid EVF and classic DSLR configuration, as I find it nearly impossible to focus using fast manual lenses. AF is great, but through the lens focus peaking would be a dream.

Best Wishes
Ben

donaldejose

"through the lens focus peaking would be a dream." Yes, yes, yes and it would give a new life to all the old Nikkor manual focus lenses or other brands which can adopted to the Nikon F mount: both an implementation of modern technology and an improved access to the vast collection of "legacy lenses." If Nikon can, and does, do it that feature should keep them from losing more market share and may even reverse the trend of these last few years. It would be a "home run hit" on Nikon's 100th Birthday.

MegapixelSchnitzel

I am getting excited about this. Yes, I just bought a D810 a few months back and I'll keep her - but this could be fabulous. The only question is resolution. I have a feeling the 46 or so estimated is NOT what this baby is going to do. I think Nikon will pull something out far in excess of that.

PB_PM

CEBlueclouds said:

PB_PM, I have drawn a red circle around the area i am referring to. I don't know what it is; just observing that it looks like some kind of switch or lever...

Same spot I'm talking about.